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View Poll Results: host city of Olympics 2012
London, UK 280 25.23%
Madrid, Spain 342 30.81%
Moscow, Russia 90 8.11%
New York, USA 206 18.56%
Paris, France 192 17.30%
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Old November 24th, 2004, 04:32 PM   #201
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Techinical rating includes lots more than stadiums see IOC technical inspection breakdown to see what is included, e,g. geo politics, transport, past experience, accomodation and many others dubai just missed out and please dont take this seriously ihave shortlisten those based on what i know and what i have been told and i cud be totally wrong ..
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Old November 25th, 2004, 06:51 PM   #202
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Originally Posted by jclornton
This forum is for me to look at the bid cities below and for you to convince me why i should shortlist your city, i will also see what i can find out about a few cities that i have not been to..

Chile (Announced Chile's NOC President on October 15, 2002)
Busan, South Korea (Busan's Mayor announced on October 2, 2002)
Delhi, India (IOA announced December 27, 2003)
Dubai, United Arab Emirates (According to March 1, 2004 Report)
Hamburg, Germany (According to February 17, 2004 Mayor's Announcement)
Milan, Italy (According to July 11, 2003 NOC communication)
Portugal (GamesBids.com Reports January 7, 2004)
Rotterdam, Netherlands (Under investigation)
St. Petersburg, Russia (According to Vice Governor, December 29, 2003)
St. Paul/Minneapolis, USA (According to August 7, 2003 Report)
Tel Aviv, Israel (conducting feasibility study, admits challenges.)
Thailand (According to September 15, 2004 Report)
I like this list because its really alot of places you wouldn't expect the Olympics to be, especially lately with Atlanta, Sydney, Athens, Beijing and what will probably be New York or London. Heres who I think has a chance:

Delhia, India: The worlds 2nd most populous conntry, never an olympics held. I would love to see the games in such a foreign place then ive seen lately.

Dubai, UAE: Now this i think has a good chance of running. With about a decade to go before the games are., can you just imagine what Dubai will have by then? Already a popular tourist desination, and building the worlds 2 largest man-made islands, its one of the fastest growing.

Rotterdam, NL: This, being the worlds largest port, might fit very well. Its certainly a great city as ive read, and it could show a very interesting Olympics.

Tel Aviv, Isreal: This is one of the trickest, but my favorite. If anything, poeple should see this as a chance to make amends and start building peace. The entire middle east can get on this deal with help from the rest of the world. Kinda like taking on a huge project with many complications.

Other cities that should run: Rio De Jeniero, Cape Town (first African city to host olympics), Kulala Lumpar, Tapei, Shanghai(doubtful to win though with beijing), Wellington, Las Vegas, Toronto.
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Old November 25th, 2004, 07:17 PM   #203
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If 2012 goes to Europe none of those cities will have a chance, they've got to bring them to other continents. Just imagine, 2004, 2012 and 2016 in Europe, not probable.
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Old November 27th, 2004, 10:05 PM   #204
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Don't forget the 2006 Winter Olympics in Torino, Italy
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Old November 28th, 2004, 01:23 AM   #205
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Minneapolis 62.6
Lisbon 64.89
Milan 60.46
Hamburg 64.36
Buenos Aires 66.25
St Petersburg 55.69
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Old November 28th, 2004, 08:24 PM   #206
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Busan?? I dont think we have any chance of getting 2016 olympic.
They were just poor people with no food to eat. Nothing to be happy about...

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Old November 29th, 2004, 02:21 AM   #207
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Hamburg would be good. You could win gold and pull at the same time - lol It certainly isn't Salt Lake City.

Buenos Aires would be a long overdue choice as well. They're still bitter at Melbourne over the 56 Games.
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Old December 4th, 2004, 01:23 AM   #208
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sans doute....madrid.....
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Old December 4th, 2004, 01:31 AM   #209
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Spain had the games at Barcelona in 1992, and you want them again in 2012 ?????.
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Old December 4th, 2004, 01:41 AM   #210
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Old December 4th, 2004, 02:04 AM   #211
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Am i the only one that gets it that Madrid will not win 2012!!!??
4.New York
5. Moscow

rebound countries like paris always win
like athens did in 2004 after losing 1996 and like beijing did 2008 after losing 2000 to syd ney
its all politics!!!!
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Old December 4th, 2004, 02:46 AM   #212
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Thats an interesting analysis, but France is not the flavour of the month in the English speaking world, where approx 70 odd countries get a vote. I think London has a good chance.
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Old December 4th, 2004, 02:48 AM   #213
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Manchester did not win in 2000 after losing out in 1996... It doesn't happen every time.
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yeah well thats manchester ..... they havent really done well i meant the country who placed second to the winner
beijing second to sydney
athens second to atlanta
paris third to beijing
toronto might have stood a great chance if they had bid for 2012

to kota16 i also think that london had a good chance and i support their bid and wud prob vote for them as an IOC member if i was one otherwise i was trying to predict the votes of each member based on what people think from that region on these forums but nobody responded
i gave the list of ioc mebers who will vote and there coutry but i wil see what happens if i place the names on this forum
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Old December 4th, 2004, 03:36 AM   #215
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Who Will Vote For Who???

2012 Help decide and argu who will vote for who
Below is a list of Each candidate that will vote for 2012 Olympic Games host city, please if you are from that country please suggest who your member would vote for and say why at least, i have filled in the names of the known votes or so i think, on my laptop i have a table and will fill in the names as i go along, you can simply predict a few,like this

In General
1. " Most north african countries and nigeria will vote for Paris as they voted for them for 2010 SWC"
2." Australia will most def vote for New York due to the close ties"
3. Member A New YOrk
Entire List
4. Copy the names and nationalities and next to each give you prediction
(this is very tedious though)
this i why i want everyones opinion so that we can all compile one prediction hacving taken into account everyones opinion by next year before the bid is announced we should have our predcitions complete... or before then and then just modify as news comes in e.g. if moscow withdraws etc..


List of members by protocol order
Assume members from bid countries cannot vote in round one

Last name, First name NOC Year of election Games participation and who they wil vote for these are off my head so tell me where im wrong
Havelange, João BRA 1963 1936/52 madrid
Hodler, Marc SUI 1963 london
Mzali, Mohamed TUN 1965 paris
Smirnov, Vitaly * RUS 1971 cannot vote
Tallberg, Peter FIN 1976 1960/64/68/72/80 london
Gosper, Richard Kevan AUS 1977 1956/60 ** new york
Magvan, Shagdarjav MGL 1977 moscow
Pound, Richard W. CAN 1978 1960 new york
Filaretos, Nikos GRE 1981 london
He, Zhenliang CHN 1981 paris
Carraro, Franco ITA 1982 paris
Coles, Phillip Walter AUS 1982 1960/64/68 new york
Dibos, Iván PER 1982 madrid
Igaya, Chiharu JPN 1982 1952/56/60 ** new york
Matthia, Anani TOG 1983 london
Muñoz Peña, Roque Napoleón DOM 1983 madrid
Schmitt, Pál HUN 1983 1968/72/76 ** london
Liechtenstein, la Princesse Nora de LIE 1984 paris
Adefope, Henry Edmund Olufemi NGR 1985 paris
Elizalde, Francisco J. PHI 1985 moscow
Monaco, le Prince Héréditaire Albert de MON 1985 1988/92/94/98/02 paris
Kim*, Un Yong * KOR 1986 paris
Nikolaou, Lambis V. * GRE 1986 london
Defrantz, Anita L. USA 1986 1976 **
Slavkov*, Ivan BUL 1987 paris
Geesink, Anton J. NED 1987 1964 ** london
Princess Royal, The GBR 1988 1976
Mendoza Carrasquilla, Fidel COL 1988 new york
Wilson, Tay NZL 1988 london
Wu, Ching-Kuo TPE 1988 paris
Ruhee, Ram MRI 1988
Kaltschmitt Luján, Willi GUA 1988
Nyangweso, Francis W. UGA 1988 1960
Stankovic, Borislav SCG 1988
Bello, Fernando F. Lima POR 1989 1968/72
Tröger, Walther GER 1989
Okano, Shun-ichiro JPN 1990 1968 **
Carrión, Richard L. * PUR 1990
Indrapana, Nat THA 1990
Rodríguez, Antonio ARG 1990
Oswald, Denis * SUI 1991 1968/72/76 **
Rogge, Jacques * BEL 1991 1968/72/76
Vázquez Raña, Mario * MEX 1991
Bach, Thomas GER 1991 1976 **
Al-Sabah, Ahmad Al-Fahad KUW 1992
Easton, James L. * USA 1994
Reedie, Craig GBR 1994
Pescante, Mario ITA 1994
Heiberg, Gerhard * NOR 1994
Ljungqvist, Arne SWE 1994 1952
Sealy, Austin L. BAR 1994
Mitchell, Robin E. FIJ 1994
Diallo, Alpha Ibrahim * GUI 1994
Gilady, Alex ISR 1994
Tarpischev, Shamil RUS 1994
Borzov, Valeriy UKR 1994 1972/76 **
Fasel, René SUI 1995
Killy, Jean-Claude FRA 1995 1964/1968 **
Ramsamy, Sam RSA 1995
González López, Reynaldo CUB 1995
Vázquez Raña, Olegario MEX 1995 1964/68/72/76
Vrdoljak, Antun CRO 1995
Hickey, Patrick Joseph IRL 1995
Khoury, Toni * LIB 1995
Larfaoui, Mustapha ALG 1995
Ali, Shahid PAK 1996
Chang, Ung PRK 1996
Lindberg, Gunilla * SWE 1996
Maglione, Julio César URU 1996
Lee, Kun Hee KOR 1996
Verbruggen, Hein NED 1996
Cinquanta, Ottavio * ITA 1996
Borbón, l'Infante Doña Pilar de ESP 1996
Drut, Guy FRA 1996 1972/76 **
Szewinska, Irena POL 1998 1964/68/72/76/80 **
Luxembourg, le Grand-Duc de LUX 1998
Sabet, Mounir EGY 1998
Moutawakel, Nawal El MAR 1998 1984 **
Sánchez Rivas, Melitón PAN 1998
Wallner, Leo AUT 1998
Orange, le Prince d' NED 1998
Ng, Ser Miang SIN 1998
Moudallal, Samih SYR 1998
Blatter, Joseph S. SUI 1999
Diack, Lamine SEN 1999
Bubka, Sergey * UKR 1999 1988/92/96/00 **
Ctvrtlik, Robert USA 1999 1988/92/96 **
Di Centa, Manuela ITA 1999 1984/88/92/94/98 **
Popov, Alexander RUS 1999 1992/96/00 **
Aján, Tamás HUN 2000
Hashemi Taba, Mostafa IRI 2000
Kasper, Gian Franco SUI 2000
Keino, Kipjoge KEN 2000 1964/68/72 **
Nuzman, Carlos Arthur BRA 2000 1964
Palenfo, Lassana CIV 2000
Sérandour, Henri FRA 2000
Yu, Zaiqing CHN 2000
O'Neill, Susie AUS 2000 1992/96/00 **
Fok, Timothy Tsun-Ting HKG 2001
Singh, Randhir IND 2001
Coates, John Dowling AUS 2001
Hayatou, Issa CMR 2001
Samaranch Jr, Juan Antonio ESP 2001
Breda Vriesman, Els van NED 2001
Abdulaziz, Nawaf Faisal Fahd KSA 2002
Lazarides, Kikis N. CYP 2002
Park, Yong Sung KOR 2002
Chamunda, Patrick S. ZAM 2002
Al-Thani, Tamim bin Hamad QAT 2002
Holm, Kai DEN 2002
Ndiaye , Youssoupha SEN 2002
Wiberg, Pernilla SWE 2002 1992/94/98 **
Kurri, Jari FIN 2002 1980/98 **
Sondral, Adne NOR 2002 1992/94/98 **
Craven, Phil GBR 2003
Zelezny, Jan CZE 2004 1988/92/96/00/04 **
Guerrouj, Hicham El MAR 2004 1996/00/04 **
Fredericks, Frank NAM 2004 1992/96/04 **
Elwani, Rania EGY 2004 1992/96/00
Grandi, Bruno ITA 2000
Narmon, François BEL 2002
Henderson, Paul CAN 2000 1964

in round one members of countries bidding are not allowed to bid and can only vote once their country has been eliminated from the race
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Old December 4th, 2004, 03:47 AM   #216
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Here is how I would rate them

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Old December 4th, 2004, 05:36 AM   #217
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Then Roiano*.

* P.S. That's the district of Trieste where I live. [IMG]http://************/u3kmg[/IMG]

P.P.S. Maybe I'll focus on Roiano North. That's better. [IMG]http://************/u3kmg[/IMG] [IMG]http://************/u3kmg[/IMG] [IMG]http://************/u3kmg[/IMG]

P.P.P.S. Let's say the Upper Part of Roiano North. 't's OK now.

Ciao from the top-Northern point of the Mediterranean: the Bora Door where the cool Northeaster smashes U 2 the floor!
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Old December 4th, 2004, 09:34 PM   #218
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why not madrid??? but barcelona 92?? Madrid is the unique grand city of europe not celebrated Olympics Games
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Old December 4th, 2004, 10:19 PM   #219
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We'll get the Olympics......

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Old December 5th, 2004, 02:05 AM   #220
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madrid, madrid, madrid, madrid,
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