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Old October 9th, 2007, 09:54 PM   #7861
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I'm afraid they will ruin the whole city of Dubai by building towers after towers without thinking the consequences. There are no parks, not even a centre where people could meet each other. All tho Dubai has everything that is the best and the tallest in the world, it will never be better than a city that has actually been planned well.

Centre for meeting each other -- lets count the number of malls shall we
Park -- Zabeel park for 1 is a new park that theyv made
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Old October 9th, 2007, 09:59 PM   #7862
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Damn I hope it isn't taller than 800m version, the other looks FUGLYY
I agree, the 808m version has the best proportions judging by the illustrations ive seen. ~750 wouldnt be bad either, i dont think they will go much higher so there is no need to worry though.
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Old October 9th, 2007, 10:32 PM   #7863
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Come on!!!!!!

More pictures please... stop being lazy!!!!
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Old October 9th, 2007, 10:36 PM   #7864
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Not having a clear centre equals a confused city.
Show me a city with a "centre" and I'll show you a bunch of neighborhoods that don't give a sh** about the "centre".
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Old October 9th, 2007, 10:45 PM   #7865
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Come on!!!!!!

More pictures please... stop being lazy!!!!
here, a recent shot from flickr:

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Old October 9th, 2007, 11:03 PM   #7866
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i wonder what the height is of the surrounding towers?
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Old October 9th, 2007, 11:27 PM   #7867
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i wonder what the height is of the surrounding towers?
a round 100 - 180 m
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Old October 9th, 2007, 11:28 PM   #7868
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150~200m averall
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Old October 10th, 2007, 12:01 AM   #7869
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Hmmm...

Concrete stops at level 156 right???

DAMNIT!!!

it should be level 162 for my feelings...

BTW Vanhenrik dont spam. Yes i said spam because i know you love the BD but your postings behaviour creeps close to being called real spamming....

SO STOP POSTING SO MUCH CRAP!!!!!

Grow up...

Cheers BTW to you all
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Old October 10th, 2007, 02:59 AM   #7870
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Hi all.

Picasa - 07 09 29









Enjoy.
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Old October 10th, 2007, 02:59 AM   #7871
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^ wow.
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Hmmm...

Concrete stops at level 156 right???

DAMNIT!!!

it should be level 162 for my feelings...

BTW Vanhenrik dont spam. Yes i said spam because i know you love the BD but your postings behaviour creeps close to being called real spamming....

SO STOP POSTING SO MUCH CRAP!!!!!

Grow up...

Cheers BTW to you all
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The total reinforced concrete structure will stop at lev155/586m. The combo steel frame /concrete slabs will reach lev162 or 624m/tier18.
This is why the OFFICIAL number of floors will be 162 because these are inhabitable due to having concrete floors. i think its against building law to have habititable floors with un-fire-rated steel frames. these are normally built for plant /com ect.
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Old October 10th, 2007, 04:00 AM   #7872
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...Back on topic, I'm just amazed at how small and narrow Burj Dubai looks next to the proposed Mubark Tower. I hope there are some mass dampers in BD. BD looks as if it would bend like a blade of grass in the wind.
The design of BD has taken this into consideration. As you can see from the diagram below the cross section of BD is hexagonal, greatly increasing its rigidity. The 3 winged design also dramatically improves this.

The tiers serve to counter the normally destructive powers of wind sheer on tall structures. I remember there was some discussion about engineers considering placing 2 small mass dampers somewhere near the base of the steel section however I cant remember if this had an officially source. I have added a link to a pdf outlining results from wind engineering.


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Old October 10th, 2007, 04:55 AM   #7873
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Fury those are some of the most amazing pictures I've seen of Dubai. Thanks so much for the very welcomed surprise!!!!
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Old October 10th, 2007, 08:32 AM   #7874
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^ i agree. im also married with 4 kiddies. this forum is my relaxant.
just realized that height to tip of 50m crane now is 625m. which is height of eventual main roof and as high as worlds tallest structure!!!

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Old October 10th, 2007, 08:42 AM   #7875
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I can't wait to see what the whole place will look like when they cover all that sand with buildings, grass, trees, bushes, water, and roads.
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Old October 10th, 2007, 12:03 PM   #7876
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Been watching...

time to ask... the stats about 'bend' near the top of the Burj were worrying.
The highest outside balcony will need to have a non-slip floor and a higher rail to allow for the slope that could occur... yes?

Just want to say as it's my first post how much I have enjoyed the info, pics and banter - great community! Imre, Fury, Cul, Holly, ZZ and many more THANK YOU! And Van H ! my family love you! (Swede or not).

I think this thread has reached 1/3 of a million visitors so Congratulations!
God Bless.
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Old October 10th, 2007, 12:08 PM   #7877
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Welcome St. Tim of Sussex

This thread has already 1,147,927 views atm
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Old October 10th, 2007, 02:26 PM   #7878
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^ wow.

hi
The total reinforced concrete structure will stop at lev155/586m. The combo steel frame /concrete slabs will reach lev162 or 624m/tier18.
This is why the OFFICIAL number of floors will be 162 because these are inhabitable due to having concrete floors. i think its against building law to have habititable floors with un-fire-rated steel frames. these are normally built for plant /com ect.


If the steel portion retain the original height of 186m and yet not inclusive of steel/concrete combo, it mean there is an increase in height!


Then again the 186m steel section might be inclusive of combo as well too. I hope for the first one though, It really good to see BD going up to high 800m to low 900m range.


The best proof is still the setback of the core, the height of this T15 setback will determine significantly on the final height
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Old October 10th, 2007, 02:38 PM   #7879
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Fury's pictures reaction.

Unbelievable. Buildings of hundreds meters tall getting dwarfed by a building who is more than twice as high!
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Old October 10th, 2007, 03:00 PM   #7880
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Progress appears to have slowed the last few weeks.

Ramadan very nearly over now - only a day or 2 left.
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