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Old July 24th, 2005, 04:33 PM   #1
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Montréal...bidding for the Commonwealth Games

So it seems Montréal wants to host the Commonweath Games in 2014. I think it'd be a great idea for a city in Québec to host it. What does everyone think? Anyone know anything else about it? I couldn't find any stories about it in the Gazette.
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On right track for Games
Commonwealth bid organizers tout city's record
By MICHAEL HAMMOND, Ottawa Sun

ORGANIZERS are hoping Ottawa's track record for hosting large sporting events could help the capital land the 2014 Commonwealth Games and the expected $1.4-billion economic impact.

The city sent a letter to Commonwealth Games Canada Friday, declaring its intention to submit a bid. Ottawa faces stiff competition from Calgary, Halifax, Montreal and Hamilton, which narrowly missed landing the 2010 Games.

Ottawa has already shown it can shine on the world stage, said Pat Reid, of the city's bid committee.

"We just held the Francophone Games (in 2001) and we're hosting the Ontario Summer Games next summer," Reid said. "We have very experienced officials."

CAPITAL PRESTIGE

Ottawa's standing as a national capital could give it an edge over other cities vying for the Canadian bid, he added.

Senators chief operating officer Cyril Leeder, who is also on the bid committee, told the Sun yesterday that Ottawa is the only city of the bid group that has not hosted a major international event on the scale of the Commonwealth Games. That could come into play, he said.

"Some of the intangibles are that we are a capital city and we have not hosted major games," said Leeder.

"All the other cities have these legacy projects."

Canada's chances for hosting the 2014 Games are good, since next year's Games will be in Melbourne, Australia, and the 2010 Games in New Delhi, India, meaning the Games will then shift to this part of the world.

Since London has landed the 2012 Olympics, a Canadian bid for the 2014 Commonwealth Games looks promising, Reid said.

"With the Olympics going to London, we shoot pretty close to the top of the list," he said.

Statistics from Hamilton's 2010 Games bid estimate the event will generate $1.4 billion in economic activity. It already has a $400,000 war chest for the 2014 bid.

$500M IN FUNDING

When Hamilton last bid for the Games, the federal and provincial governments pledged a combined $500 million in funding.

Ottawa, if successful, can expect at least that much money if it succeeds in securing the Canadian bid, Reid said.

The Commonwealth Games is the third-largest sporting event in the world. The event features 15 sports and attracts 4,500 athletes, plus 3,000 coaches and technical officials.

Ottawa city council needs to approve the bid.

BIG GAMES, BIG BUCKS

If Ottawa is successful in securing the 2014 Games, the city can expect a number of economic benefits:

- Estimated economic impact of the Games: $1.4 billion

- Expected number of tourists for the Games: 250,000

- Expected number of spectators: 625,000

- Anticipated federal/provincial government support: $500 million

- Direct spending from 2001 Francophone Games: $80 million

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Old August 1st, 2005, 10:31 PM   #2
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Montreal 2016 Olympic Bid?

Montreal mulls bid for 2016 Olympics
WebPosted Sun, 31 Jul 2005 19:08:59 EDT
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Fresh off its successful staging of the world aquatic championships, Montreal is contemplating making a bid to host the 2016 Summer Olympics.

"We'll catch our breath first, but a lot of people ask questions like that," Montreal mayor Gerald Tremblay said when asked on Sunday about the 2016 Olympics.

"We'll do a review (of the world championships), we'll think about it and we'll answer that question when the times comes.


FROM JULY 31, 2005: Canada finishes with record 10 world aquatic medals

"I don't exclude anything. On the contrary, watch the last thing I say at the closing ceremony and you'll see the answer to your question is in the affirmative."

If Montreal won the 2016 Games, it would mark the 40th anniversary of the city hosting the 1976 Olympics, an event that ran up an enormous deficit that won't be paid off until 2006.


RELATED: Viewpoint: Poolside at the worlds

Only five cities have ever hosted the Olympics twice: Athens (1986 and 2004), London (1908 and 1948), Stockholm (1912 and 1956), Paris (1900 and 1924) and Los Angeles (1932 and 1984).

Athletes competing at the world aquatic championships seem to support the idea of Montreal hosting the 2016 Games.

"From our experience, coming into Montreal and competing at this venue has been just unreal," said swimmer Rick Say. "Having the Olympics here in the future gets kids excited about sport and I think it's a great commitment by the city of Montreal to sport and its development."

"Having the home crowd here and all the support has really made a difference for us," added swimmer Brittany Reimer. "It's awesome for us."

World aquatic success

The multi-sport world aquatic championships ended on Sunday with Canada capturing 10 medals, the best performance ever since 1978 when the country's athletes won nine.

Canada ended the two-week event with five swimming medals (four silver, one bronze) and four diving medals (three gold, one bronze) to go with a bronze in women's water polo.

All in all, the 15-day event featuring 1,784 athletes from around the world won praise and plaudits, even though organizers announced that 160,000 tickets were sold (they were shooting for 200,000) and that they expect to run at a $4 million deficit.

"I think Montreal and Canada can be proud of what they have accomplished at this event," said Mustapha Larfaoui, president of FINA, the world governing body for aquatic sports.

Mayor Tremblay downplayed the deficit, explaining it represents less than one percent of Montreal's annual budget and that the city can pay it off with funds it sets aside for special events.

Even though the stands were not always full, the competition brought worldwide exposure to the city and unlike the 1976 Montreal Olympics in Montreal, "the taxpayers won't have to pay additional taxes," said Tremblay.
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Old August 1st, 2005, 10:41 PM   #3
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The citizens of Montreal won't let him do this, especially because the debt from the '76 games are finally payed off next year.
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Old August 1st, 2005, 10:42 PM   #4
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, Montreal will never host anouther Olympic games even if it was the only city bidding.

Quebec City could win a future winter games maybe in like 20+ years.
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Old August 1st, 2005, 11:33 PM   #5
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I dont think the majority of people would support this.
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Never, they didn't even sell there estamated tickets for the swim championships, and they lost money on the championships.
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Old August 2nd, 2005, 10:35 PM   #8
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If they can pull off an LA, maybe they could put these facilities to good use.











Maybe the Big Owe wouldn't be such a waste afterall...
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Old August 2nd, 2005, 10:52 PM   #9
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In today's Globe:
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By TU THANH HA
Tuesday, August 2, 2005 Page A2

MONTREAL -- The prospect of the Summer Olympics returning to Montreal with their attending excitement and costs had this city buzzing yesterday after Mayor Gérald Tremblay suggested the idea.

Surprisingly, in phone-in shows and informal media straw polls, not all Montrealers were opposed to the prospect, despite the fact that it will be next spring before Quebec taxpayers finish paying off the $1.5-billion debt left by the construction for Montreal's 1976 Summer Olympics.

But any bid would have to be ready by 2007 and be approved first by the Canadian Olympic Committee, which expects the candidate city to clinch federal and provincial support.

"It'd have to be a team effort," COC head Chris Rudge said. "The COC is not comfortable with anybody blindsiding the federal or provincial governments."

COC vice-president Walter Sieber said a city couldn't realistically prepare a bid without getting a $500-million commitment for government support.

Marc Roy, a spokesman for Prime Minister Paul Martin, and Gaétan Simard, a spokesman for Quebec Sports Minister Jean-Marc Fournier, said yesterday it is too early for their respective governments to express any support for a Montreal bid.

In 1976, the Games actually clinched a surplus of $92-million. The existing debt stems from the rampant construction costs, which were made worse because the mayor of the time, Jean Drapeau, initially eschewed government funding, in the mistaken belief the project could be self-financing.

Mr. Tremblay unveiled his trial balloon Sunday at the end of the highly successful 11th world aquatics championships. "Montreal will not wait another 30 years to renew acquaintances with the world," he said.

A Montreal bid faces several challenges though.

Mr. Rudge noted that the 2016 Games are not expected to go to Europe, which already had Athens in 2004 and London will host in 2012; or Asia, with Sydney in 2000 and Beijing in 2008.

But the Summer Games wouldn't necessarily go to a North American nation either since the International Olympic Committee has been talking about taking them to a new part of the world, such as Africa or Latin America, he said.

Mr. Sieber said because of transport concerns, a host city would have to build an Olympic Village to house 16,000 people close to a main stadium and aquatics complex.

The onetime Olympic Village is now an apartment complex, the Velodrome cycling facility was turned into a natural-sciences centre and the stadium refitted with a permanent roof and geared as a site for fairs and exhibitions.

"I'm happy that Montreal was successful with the aquatics games, but between the aquatics games and the Olympic Games, there's a big step. It's not in the same league," Mr. Sieber said.
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i don't think so...i wouldn't want montreal to host it. i think toronto would be a better bet.
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Old August 3rd, 2005, 01:02 AM   #11
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What about the 1976 velodrome? Didn't they turn it into a petting zoo or something?
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they're going to have to beat out Chicago and I don't think they can with all of Chicago's latest modern developments city wide.
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they're going to have to beat out Chicago and I don't think they can with all of Chicago's latest modern developments city wide.
Of all cities, why choose Chicago? NYC was America's 2012 bid and if America's bid is to go through another bid process by the USOC, second to NYC will likely be San Francisco to bid for 2016.
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All the atheletes' residences are regular apartments now too, aren't they?

SF was second last time, and I think IF NY were to go ahead, the USOC would still choose SF.
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Maybe the Big Owe wouldn't be such a waste afterall...
Why wasn't this venue used for the FINA World Championships?
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^ no. they built a new outdoor venue at the site of Expo 67.
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Of all cities, why choose Chicago? NYC was America's 2012 bid and if America's bid is to go through another bid process by the USOC, second to NYC will likely be San Francisco to bid for 2016.
San Francisco's 2012 bid plan is impossible to enforce nowadays as Stanford Stadium will downgrade the number of seats according to its own needs. I guess the Palo Alto core of the bid is dead, and still leaves SF with the pesky problem of where to build an Olmypic stadium. Now, if they could replace Candlestick Stadium, they would have a nice bid. Otherwise, Chicago and NYC are more likely to win the hearts of the USOC.
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San Francisco's 2012 bid plan is impossible to enforce nowadays as Stanford Stadium will downgrade the number of seats according to its own needs. I guess the Palo Alto core of the bid is dead, and still leaves SF with the pesky problem of where to build an Olmypic stadium. Now, if they could replace Candlestick Stadium, they would have a nice bid. Otherwise, Chicago and NYC are more likely to win the hearts of the USOC.
The main problem with San Francisco is that the facility plan is too dispersed with its "ring of gold" plan. The IOC wants a much more compact plan. The city is certainly capable, it just needs to be more compact.

Regarding the stadium, I'm sure they will figure it out (won't be another NYC 2012 disaster).
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forget it, Cape Town will get it, In South Africa if you wonder where it is... lol Not befre 2032, no chance
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^ no. they built a new outdoor venue at the site of Expo 67.
I know they built another one, I went to the World Championship.

My Question was WHY did they build a new pool when there appears to be a good one at the Olympic Stadium?
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