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Old August 21st, 2009, 09:07 PM   #601
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It makes me want to scream out loud that this sort of set design nonsense has so many supporters.
What is wrong with it? It follows the classical principles very closely. All you could criticize it for is not being "daring" as a classical building. Much of the criticism on this threa d here has actually revealed many of us have never looked closely at a classical building. The who criticism on the colmns and roof ballustrades is the best example.
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Old August 21st, 2009, 11:20 PM   #602
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Looks more American with the columns surrounding large windows than it does British.
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Old August 22nd, 2009, 03:52 PM   #603
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What is wrong with it? It follows the classical principles very closely. All you could criticize it for is not being "daring" as a classical building. Much of the criticism on this threa d here has actually revealed many of us have never looked closely at a classical building. The who criticism on the colmns and roof ballustrades is the best example.
As a piece of set design it is ok. But that is what it is - set design. As I have said many times buildings have a historical and contextual 'meaning' This style is about imperialism - something we left behind a long time ago. Building this way is also about nostalgia and an inability to percieve 'beauty' in the contemporary world.
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Old August 22nd, 2009, 05:11 PM   #604
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As a piece of set design it is ok. But that is what it is - set design. As I have said many times buildings have a historical and contextual 'meaning' This style is about imperialism - something we left behind a long time ago. Building this way is also about nostalgia and an inability to percieve 'beauty' in the contemporary world.
Absolutely agree.
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Old November 16th, 2009, 06:23 PM   #605
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Hi there,

Do you guys have some renders of the new Tottenham Court Road area? What's gonna replace the Astoria building =( and those nearby?

I cannot wait to see that,'cause I'm puzzled...

By the way,I do like the new victorian style building U/C as well,a more modern style would not have been suitable at all,so it couldn't be differently,I'm happy with it!

Bye folks.

A "frog" loving London.
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Old November 17th, 2009, 03:46 AM   #606
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^ The Astoria and neighbours have been demolished to make way for the new Crossrail station and Tube interchange.
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Old November 17th, 2009, 04:01 AM   #607
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As a piece of set design it is ok. But that is what it is - set design. As I have said many times buildings have a historical and contextual 'meaning' This style is about imperialism - something we left behind a long time ago. Building this way is also about nostalgia and an inability to percieve 'beauty' in the contemporary world.
What a load of nonsense. It's just a fine building and people respond well to it. Modernism employs set designs to even greater extent. And what's "imperialistic" about building in our own tradition in our own city? How is that an imposition on another culture or people? And of all the facets of imperialism, architecture is surely the weakest case for its critics. The architectural legacy of the British Empire is very fine indeed. Go and look at the splendour of old Bombay, Calcutta, Shanghai, or Singapore, lounge on a long cane chair on a colonnaded tropical veranda (preferably with a sun-downer of pink gin ), and then tell me that Empire couldn't do architecture....
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Old November 18th, 2009, 12:49 AM   #608
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There's nothing wrong with this building. Looks quite handsome... good job all round.
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Old November 24th, 2009, 12:15 AM   #609
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What a load of nonsense. It's just a fine building and people respond well to it. Modernism employs set designs to even greater extent. And what's "imperialistic" about building in our own tradition in our own city? How is that an imposition on another culture or people? And of all the facets of imperialism, architecture is surely the weakest case for its critics. The architectural legacy of the British Empire is very fine indeed. Go and look at the splendour of old Bombay, Calcutta, Shanghai, or Singapore, lounge on a long cane chair on a colonnaded tropical veranda (preferably with a sun-downer of pink gin ), and then tell me that Empire couldn't do architecture....
Well said indeed Langur, I agree 100%.
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Old November 25th, 2009, 06:58 PM   #610
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What a load of nonsense. It's just a fine building and people respond well to it. Modernism employs set designs to even greater extent. And what's "imperialistic" about building in our own tradition in our own city? How is that an imposition on another culture or people? And of all the facets of imperialism, architecture is surely the weakest case for its critics. The architectural legacy of the British Empire is very fine indeed. Go and look at the splendour of old Bombay, Calcutta, Shanghai, or Singapore, lounge on a long cane chair on a colonnaded tropical veranda (preferably with a sun-downer of pink gin ), and then tell me that Empire couldn't do architecture....
Amen, preach!
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Old December 23rd, 2009, 11:32 PM   #611
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Old December 23rd, 2009, 11:48 PM   #612
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Yes bombed and demolished in the 1960's and what are they thinking of replacing the lost buildings that have made way for crossrail? Funny nothings been really shown yet apart from some god awful massing images? too embarrassed pehaps?
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Old February 9th, 2010, 01:39 AM   #613
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Old February 9th, 2010, 01:03 PM   #614
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I like this building, but the proportions are a bit awkward, it needs a bigger roof to balance it out. the facade also lacks a centre or focal point, and it looks more like a side elevation than a front entrance, which is disappointing. i think it would've worked better if the columns were arranged differently so that there was a central thrust, main doorway etc, with a central feature at the roof. the horizontal emphasis looks poor in contrast with the vertical emphasis of the building to the north and the dorothy perkins building, which both have a vertical emphasis and much better proportions. this building in contrast disperses your perception to nowhere and is an anti-climax.

this looks better right up close, focusing on the high quality finish and details, rather than the overall shape, which is disappointing.

6/10

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Old February 9th, 2010, 01:36 PM   #615
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Looks very classy IMO and has had a genuine effect of making a rather ugly junction look a bit more classy. I would love for the curve of buildings demolished by crossrail also to be replaced with something stylish like this but I have a terrible feeling that it will be yet more bland boxes with large sheets of plate glass either all over or at street level for the retail.
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Old February 9th, 2010, 01:48 PM   #616
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Hmmm i suspect your right..but pehaps Camden Council will be brave again and ask for something replacing the original buildings like for like...
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Old February 9th, 2010, 03:24 PM   #617
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Check out the link and browse through Quinlan Terry's projects, read his essays, etc. It's fascinating, and he's built some really lovely buildings in London and around Britain. Although I wouldn't want everything like this, I'm really pleased we have a serious scholarly classical architect along with all the modernists. And yes he would be perfect for the Tottenham Court Road site.
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Old February 12th, 2010, 01:02 PM   #618
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Yes, fantastic pics there. How anyone can be "offended" by this building is beyond me.
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Check out the link and browse through Quinlan Terry's projects, read his essays, etc. It's fascinating, and he's built some really lovely buildings in London and around Britain. Although I wouldn't want everything like this, I'm really pleased we have a serious scholarly classical architect along with all the modernists. And yes he would be perfect for the Tottenham Court Road site.
I totally agree with this...Mr Terry is not just some old school fantasist, he's an educated architect and scholar who knows what he is doing (I this particular area of architecture). I don't always agree with his style and interventions but I applaud him for being the most radical of architects because he is so conservative.

I think the buidling looks good...
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Old July 21st, 2010, 12:04 PM   #620
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This has been nominated for entry into this year's Carbuncle Cup.

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