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Old October 31st, 2006, 02:07 AM   #1
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One Hyde Park | Knightsbridge | 49m | 14 fl

After much searching I have found the following! An improvement I'm sure you will agree on the last building.











Old building:



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Old October 31st, 2006, 06:12 AM   #2
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As much as I like Rogers & you know with the firm it will always be of high quality but I feel his style doesn't seem to have evolved much of some of his projects. Dont get me wrong 122LH & some of his bigger shemes are high quality & fantastic designs but schemes like this & the Tate modern Residential development could have been developed 5/10 years ago by Rogers.

Bowater- Areyou sure you just 'happened' to come across this for your first post & name yourself after the development or you somehow attached to the project

It is a vast improvement on the current building but im not sure what this does at ground level & whether it will benefit the public or just the super rich that will pay something like 25 million quid to live here (Im sure I read this will be the most expensive apartments in London).
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Old October 31st, 2006, 01:09 PM   #3
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it does benefit the ground level immensly and provides a pedestrian route to the park rather than the current mess of a junction and barriers that exists there presently

Now for the demolition of that horrible round casino building!
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Old October 31st, 2006, 01:16 PM   #4
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I don't know how anyone can call this anything but a definite improvement.
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Old October 31st, 2006, 01:48 PM   #5
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Where is this?
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Old October 31st, 2006, 01:55 PM   #6
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Knightsbridge, where Brompton Road meets Knightsbridge road.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl...3,0.005407&t=k
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Old October 31st, 2006, 02:22 PM   #7
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As the picture shows below, all the buildings in red have been redeveloped, the area has changed alot recently. Bowater House is the building outlined in green up the top. After that there's only one 1960's office building left in the center of the claster but that looks unlikely to be demolished any time soon.


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Old October 31st, 2006, 03:48 PM   #8
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I thought it looked familiar, just couldn't quite place it.
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Old October 31st, 2006, 08:38 PM   #9
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So what is the current status of this project. Planning, approval, construction?
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Old October 31st, 2006, 10:31 PM   #10
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Looks like a huge improvement but I'd rather the developer was forced to design a building that matched the smart buildings shown in the 1st pic.
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Old November 1st, 2006, 12:41 AM   #11
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So what is the current status of this project. Planning, approval, construction?

Im pretty sure this got PP some months back- I think the devlopers are Candy & Candy. Not sure when Construction would start but I would imagine it would be quite soon.
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Old November 1st, 2006, 02:00 AM   #12
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Im pretty sure this got PP some months back- I think the devlopers are Candy & Candy. Not sure when Construction would start but I would imagine it would be quite soon.
They have already started to demolish the building but luck would have it it's the hardest building in Britain to demolish! As explained here:

The 1960's Bowater House was quickly erected, thanks to some revolutionary constructional techniques. The concrete beams at each level were post-tensioned, i.e., they had holes through them into which were fitted steel cables which were then tightened, ratchet-wise, so as to provide a level of strength that could never be achieved with the conventional steel-reinforced beam. As each fioor was added, the tension of the beams on the lower fioors was increased so that they were able to bear the progressively increasing weight of the building.

Only some months after the building was completed did it occur to anyone to ask how it might be demolished at the end of its useful life. There was, it turned out, no way of progressively slackening the tension of the cables and, since no one has yet come up with a way of demolishing a building from the ground-floor upwards, this meant that any attempt to take it down would result in a whole series of explosions as each fioor was propelled violently upwards once the weight above it had been removed. The building, quite simply, was undemolishable.
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Old November 1st, 2006, 04:28 PM   #13
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What a great story! What's the method adopted by the demolition firm?
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Old November 1st, 2006, 10:34 PM   #14
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They have already started to demolish the building but luck would have it it's the hardest building in Britain to demolish! As explained here:

The 1960's Bowater House was quickly erected, thanks to some revolutionary constructional techniques. The concrete beams at each level were post-tensioned, i.e., they had holes through them into which were fitted steel cables which were then tightened, ratchet-wise, so as to provide a level of strength that could never be achieved with the conventional steel-reinforced beam. As each fioor was added, the tension of the beams on the lower fioors was increased so that they were able to bear the progressively increasing weight of the building.

Only some months after the building was completed did it occur to anyone to ask how it might be demolished at the end of its useful life. There was, it turned out, no way of progressively slackening the tension of the cables and, since no one has yet come up with a way of demolishing a building from the ground-floor upwards, this meant that any attempt to take it down would result in a whole series of explosions as each fioor was propelled violently upwards once the weight above it had been removed. The building, quite simply, was undemolishable.
So how have they solved it? I cycle past it twice a day and it can't be any more than 3 storeys now as the demolition has progressed at quite a cracking pace since the late summer. Its only the two blocks either side of Edinburgh gate left now, and I've seen piledrivers either side.

The Rodgers scheme is fine - as londonlad says, it's by Nick and Christian Candy the high profile London developers and will be called One Hyde Park I think. Indeed the rumour of a £20m penthouse has been bandied about quite alot. In all, this should really open up Brompton Road / Sloane Street / Knightsbridge to Hyde Park, at least for a little while until construction begins.

Will be interesting to see how they re-route the Edinburgh Gate.
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Old November 2nd, 2006, 03:16 AM   #15
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SWEET JESUS!!

As reported by 'The Times'

It is rumoured that a huge penthouse is planned, to be marketed at the startling price of £70 million. Although not confirming the price, Candy says that he is going for fewer but larger units: “We can’t talk about prices because we have not yet set them. We started with planning permission for 86 apartments but we are going for less than that, with some very large units.”

...and as reported by 'The Evening Standard'

It is understood that each apartment in the four blocks - which will be managed by the nearby Mandarin Oriental Hotel - will cost Pounds 25million or more. The prestigious address is expected to add millions to the asking price and appeal to Russian and Middle Eastern buyers in particular.

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Old November 2nd, 2006, 10:27 AM   #16
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25 big ones for a shiny box on the high street.....more money than sense....not that I am green with envy!
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Old November 2nd, 2006, 10:35 AM   #17
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Seems a bit over the top really? the prices i mean. Candy and Candy seem to be brilliant marketeers but i'm not sure about the result, all puff and no substance.
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Old November 2nd, 2006, 05:48 PM   #18
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£70 million gets you...

100 Park Lane, built for the Earl of Dudley in 1827, was recently bought for £37.5 million and is being transformed into a 17-bedroom house at a cost of £10 million. Though it has views over Hyde Park, it is also right by a highway — but the house is likely to be worth at least £80 million when restored.



The Indian steel magnate Lakshmi Mittal spent a reputed £70 million on 18-19 Kensington Palace Gardens, originally two semi-detached mansions designed by the office of Sir Charles Barry, architect of the Houses of Parliament. The marble used for the Taj Mahal was imported for the bathrooms in the 12-bedroom house.



The plum for developers is Chelsea Barracks. At 13 acres, it is easily the biggest site on offer and is in a fabulous location overlooking the Thames. It has no listed buildings except for the former chapel, so the developer will have little trouble. Bidding is said to have hit £400 million and marketing has not even started yet. “There is a shortage of supply of residential land, and there is intense competition from developers ,” says Jon Millward, of Drivers Jonas, which is handling the sale of Chelsea Barracks. So for £70 million you would get 2.975 acres and some change left over for a 'M' house.



Or if you're lucky enough to be Bill Gates you can afford 397 £70 million properties or 903 acres of Kensington for the garden. Hyde Park is only 625 acres large!

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Old November 2nd, 2006, 09:15 PM   #19
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The old scheme looks quite nice but im sure Rogers should do us pround- he rarely lets us down.

Now if only they could get rid of that other monstorous post war mistake , the horse guards tower or what ever its called nearby- that really is bad
Do you have a picture(s) of the original design? I did contact CABE directly but they were unable to help me, they had deleted the original picture after a website redesign.
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Old November 12th, 2006, 09:22 PM   #20
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demolition nearly done - last few floors to go. Expect they need to shut Edinburgh Gate for a week or so to get the last vestiges of the building removed from either side:


just through the gap, Hyde Park meet Knightsbridge.
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