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Old April 8th, 2009, 08:57 PM   #1
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#Langa Sun Hotel - 32F - Durban Point

Name: Langa Sun Hotel
Use: Four or Five Star Hotel
Floors: 32
Status: Proposed
Location: Situated on old Alexandra Hotel site in the Durban Point (former site of the San Raphael apartment tower development that was canned two years ago)








Luxury hotel boost for Point

Suren Naidoo -- The Mercury (South Africa), April 06, 2009 Monday e2 Edition

Durban's Point is set to get a big boost with moves to develop a R500 million luxury hotel on the site of the old Alexandra Hotel and the landmark Smugglers' Inn Waterfront Bar.

The proposed development is being led by emerging black empowered leisure group Langa Sun Resort Hotels. It was announced at a briefing at the Durban Point and at an investors' dinner at Sibaya Casino at the weekend.

Mandla Nxumalo, the 31-year-old chief executive of the Langa Sun Resort Hotels group, is spearheading the project with others, including MP Linda Hlongwa, attorney President Ntshangase, Paton Taylor Architects and estate agents AIDA.

Nxumalo said the 32-storey, 315-room hotel would become "an icon" for the Point and the city because it would be the tallest hotel development in Durban in decades.

"It is the biggest hotel development yet announced for the greater Durban Point regeneration precinct," he said.

"Importantly, the landmark Smugglers' Inn, a listed building, will be incorporated as part of the development.

"We want to start construction in October and have it ready in 24 months," he said.

Eshowe-born Nxumalo is based in Mpumalanga and has five smaller African-themed hotel developments, under the EleZulu Resort Hotel name, around the country.

"The new venture will see three hotels built in Durban, Johannesburg and Cape Town.

"Durban-based hospitality group Three Cities has been identified at the preferred firm to manage these hotels, and the first is set to open in Durban," said Nxumalo.

"We chose the Durban Point because this is the future tourist hub of the Durban city centre. It is an amazing development and we wanted to be part of it."

Speaking at Sibaya, deputy mayor Logie Naidoo welcomed the proposed development, saying it was a huge vote of confidence in the Durban Point project.

However, questioned by The Mercury, Michael Lambert, the managing director of Three Cities, said that while Three Cities had been in discussions with Langa Sun three months ago about managing the hotel, no agreement had been signed.

"Nothing has been finalised from our side, and we stressed to them that we will consider managing the hotel only if it is up to our quality and design standards; if it is a four or five star hotel; and only if it is a financially feasible model," said Lambert.

Nxumalo said he wanted a leading hospitality player to manage the hotel, which was why Three Cities had approached.

In a related development, questioned by The Mercury yesterday, Billy Dixon of Property 031, which is handling the sale of the old Smugglers' Inn site, said that while a letter of intent had been signed for the Langa Sun developers to purchase the site, the transaction had yet to take place.

Dixon questioned the announcement, saying it was premature.

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Old April 8th, 2009, 09:01 PM   #2
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Old April 9th, 2009, 01:39 PM   #3
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in many ways its a better design than San Raphael imo, and i love how the tower part is twisted to an angle compared to the podium and streets
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Old April 11th, 2009, 06:06 PM   #4
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As per the report and RomanSA's reiteration of the icon nature of this development - some important parts to that story was edited out - cos Zuma and the elections are the big news at the moment - I was surprised they even used it on the front page -

Anyway guys - I'm so addicted to this site now - that I'm even 'foruming' from Splashy - It's great - SA's longest running music festival - in the stunningly beautiful Southern Drakensberg - part of a World Heritage Site.
We went up the dramatic Sani Pass to Lesotho with Tourism KZN on Thursday - and had lunch at the 'Highest Pub in Africa' - It's a rugged and spectacular trip - and I think all South African's need to do it at least once in their lifetime!

- Back to Langa Hotel -
I really hope this becomes a reality! - I agree with the estate agent - the Langa guys were premature in their announcement. They have bold plans and real passion but are 'emerging' and unsophisticated property developers.

- Important parts edited out include:

* that the Langa Sun Durban will be both 4 and 5 star - with the top floors being five-star. AND, the ultra-luxurious presidential suite being on the top floor - boasting a
- PRIVATE ROOF GARDEN
- PRIVATE BAR AREA WITH POOL AND JACUZZI
- 24-HOUR SPECIAL 5/6* SERVICE
- AND
- THE PRESIDENTIAL SUITE HAVE A DEDICATED LIFT GOING ALL THE WAY UP TO THE TOP FLOOR!
- THE LANGA DEVELOPERS WANT IT TO BE THE MOST EXPENSIVE AND LUXURIOUS PRESIDENTIAL SUITE IN DURBAN!

* AN ENTIRE FLOOR DEDICATED FOR THE HOTEL'S RESTAURANT (5TH)

* AN ENTIRE FLOOR DEDICATED FOR THE HOTEL'S CONVENTION FACILITIES

* A POOL BOASTING GLASS 'SEE THROUGH' WALLS

* SHOPS AND ALFRESCO DINING OPPORTUNITIES ON THE GROUND FLOOR

* FOUR FLOORS OF PARKING - WHICH MEANS IT WILL NOT BE IMPACTED BY THE PROPOSED SHAKA'S GATE APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT

* LANGA HAVE SECURED SITES IN JOBURG (NEAR THE PLANNED AFRICAN PARLIAMENT) AND CAPE TOWN (IN THE CBD) - FOR ALMOST IDENTICAL HOTELS.
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Old April 11th, 2009, 06:55 PM   #5
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As per the report and RomanSA's reiteration of the icon nature of this development - some important parts to that story was edited out - cos Zuma and the elections are the big news at the moment - I was surprised they even used it on the front page -

Anyway guys - I'm so addicted to this site now - that I'm even 'foruming' from Splashy - It's great - SA's longest running music festival - in the stunningly beautiful Southern Drakensberg - part of a World Heritage Site.
We went up the dramatic Sani Pass to Lesotho with Tourism KZN on Thursday - and had lunch at the 'Highest Pub in Africa' - It's a rugged and spectacular trip - and I think all South African's need to do it at least once in their lifetime!

- Back to Langa Hotel -
I really hope this becomes a reality! - I agree with the estate agent - the Langa guys were premature in their announcement. They have bold plans and real passion but are 'emerging' and unsophisticated property developers.

- Important parts edited out include:

* that the Langa Sun Durban will be both 4 and 5 star - with the top floors being five-star. AND, the ultra-luxurious presidential suite being on the top floor - boasting a
- PRIVATE ROOF GARDEN
- PRIVATE BAR AREA WITH POOL AND JACUZZI
- 24-HOUR SPECIAL 5/6* SERVICE
- AND
- THE PRESIDENTIAL SUITE HAVE A DEDICATED LIFT GOING ALL THE WAY UP TO THE TOP FLOOR!
- THE LANGA DEVELOPERS WANT IT TO BE THE MOST EXPENSIVE AND LUXURIOUS PRESIDENTIAL SUITE IN DURBAN!

* AN ENTIRE FLOOR DEDICATED FOR THE HOTEL'S RESTAURANT (5TH)

* AN ENTIRE FLOOR DEDICATED FOR THE HOTEL'S CONVENTION FACILITIES

* A POOL BOASTING GLASS 'SEE THROUGH' WALLS

* SHOPS AND ALFRESCO DINING OPPORTUNITIES ON THE GROUND FLOOR

* FOUR FLOORS OF PARKING - WHICH MEANS IT WILL NOT BE IMPACTED BY THE PROPOSED SHAKA'S GATE APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT

* LANGA HAVE SECURED SITES IN JOBURG (NEAR THE PLANNED AFRICAN PARLIAMENT) AND CAPE TOWN (IN THE CBD) - FOR ALMOST IDENTICAL HOTELS.
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Source: Group writers SA Date: 5 December 2004 Page No: 2
Publication: Sunday Tribune

Headline: Pirate's den gets new neighbours
Mention the name Smugglers' Inn to any red-blooded Durbanite and it is likely to raise a smile, an eyebrow or a chuckle - but it will definitely provoke a response.

Affectionately known as Smuggies, it was never far from the headlines, mostly for the wrong reasons because it first opened its doors in the early 1960s in Durban's unofficial red-light district.

Now just part of the derelict sky-line waiting for much mooted development, Smuggies is a ghost of its former self. If the walls of the Alexandra Hotel (in which Smuggies is situated) could speak, the stories will beat the best B-grade Hollywood movies or soap-opera plot lines.

Smuggies was first housed in the Criterion Hotel - a building with its own shady past. Built in 1856, the Criterion was once the world's only hotel to have a customs gate and immigration official to prevent smuggling.

It is likely that this is where the name Smuggies comes from. As with most harbour towns, Durban has had its share of characters that worked at, or frequented, the watering holes. As writer Lawrence Green recalls in his book Harbours of Memory, Point Road hotels had some of the "most talkative and wittiest parrots of all time".

And it was not just parrots who drank rum and could swear in five languages that made for many a tall story, but also the feisty barmaids, including Hellcat Peggy, who reportedly dealt with unruly customers by dragging them out of the bar by the ear - with her teeth. Some ears got bitten off in the process and, according to sailor lore, they ended up in a jar behind the bar as a warning to others.

Hellcat Peggy and the parrots might have disappeared, but Point continued to be the unofficial red- light district in Durban. Smugglers' Inn was opened in 1962 at the Criterion Hotel by Cecil Grieve. It soon built up a reputation, but a mere three years later, Smuggies had to vacate the property because the Criterion was to be demolished.

However, Smugglers' Inn continued to be a favourite drinking spot when it re-opened only a few metres from its original home. The new Smuggies moved to the Alexandra Hotel and had been "re-invented" several times. From music venue to strip club and most notably as an "executive gentlemen's club".

In the late 1980s the "who's who" in Durban was rocked when some top professionals were named as members of the Playmates Executive Club that was operating from Smugglers' Inn. At the time the owner, Grant Grieve, and his mother, Carol, were charged with operating a brothel from the premises.

Despite protests, the names of the 100 or so men were made public in court and published in the local media. The names on the list included accountants, attorneys and several high-profile Durban professionals. The Grieves were later acquitted, but it took a lot longer for some of the people involved to forget.

Smuggies itself quietly disappeared from the social scene, with just the name on the hotel a reminder of its hey-day. While there will never be another Smuggies, it is not out for the count.

With new development in the Point area, the Alexandra Hotel will be given a new, and respectable, lease on life. It will also boast a small gallery and a new and improved Smugglers' Inn.

In the past few years there has been a flurry of development in the Point but most of the old buildings on Point Road are still in a derelict state. Earlier this year, development of three city blocks in Point Road had been frozen by the KwaZulu-Natal Heritage Council.

The affected area, known as the "Warehouse Group", includes 10 listed buildings and other landmarks like the Alexandra Hotel. At the time the Heritage Council said the new owners of the Alexandra Hotel had come up with an interesting proposal that would retain the old facade. But the developers, Donelly Projects, will also build a 33-storey skyscraper, the San Raphael, with 38 luxury apartments behind the Alexandra.

The building is named after one of the ships on which Vasco da Gama sighted the Bay of Natal on Christmas Day in 1497. With starting prices from around R2.5 million, the San Raphael will be out of reach for most Durbanites, but at least they can reminisce at Smuggies and create new, if less scandalous, memories for future generations.
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lets wait and see how this one pans out. Do you know when the website will be working?
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Old April 14th, 2009, 07:56 AM   #7
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Langa Sun Resort Hotels to build luxury facilities in three cities
April 14, 2009

By SLINDILE KHANYILE

Langa Sun Resort Hotels, a newly formed hospitality company, will spend R1.5 billion over the next three years to build five-star-plus hotels in Durban, Cape Town and Johannesburg.

It hopes to recoup the investment by selling rooms for a 10-year period.

Mandla Nxumalo, the chief executive and chairman, said the company would broaden the shareholding by selling rooms at R20 000 each.

These owners would have access to the room for five nights a year and could rent it to the hotel operators or use it for personal needs.

"We have identified a gap in the market and believe this model will succeed" said Nxumalo. "Many people believe in our model - we even have an international investor backing these projects."

Nxumalo refused to divulge the identity of the investor who loaned Langa Sun the R1.5 billion or the terms of the loan. He also declined to name his partners in the venture.

He was prepared to say "politicians in the ruling party" were playing a role, but would not be specific about their involvement.

The hotels would have 32 storeys and 315 rooms each. Groundwork for the first hotel, in Durban, would begin in October and construction would start early in 2010.

Construction on the other two hotels would begin in the middle of 2010 and would take about 24 months.

Nxumalo said this was the best time to embark on these projects because prices had come down due to the economic downturn.

"All the material we need, such as steel, is cheap right now. When the economy recovers we will be done with the building."

He said the firm had not finalised the number of jobs that would be created during and after the construction phase.

Nxumalo is also involved in a company called EleZulu Hotel Resorts which is building five hotels to capitalise on the 2010 soccer World Cup.

Meanwhile, businessman and soccer legend Jomo Sono said he had scaled down on the number of hotels he was building due to the turmoil in the financial markets. Instead of spending R600 million building six hotels, he would build two.

"There is no need to go mad in this environment. If you want to go under, ask for R600 million in this market," said Sono.

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Oh so they're all going to be 32 storeys? Interesting...I wonder where the Cape Town hotel would pop up.
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International unnamed investor and ruling party politicians involved.... I only see one result if this is the case....
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Oh so they're all going to be 32 storeys? Interesting...I wonder where the Cape Town hotel would pop up.
They may have problems coming up with the money while SA is in the midst of a severe recession.
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International unnamed investor and ruling party politicians involved.... I only see one result if this is the case....
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I agree. It's a pipe dream.
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They may have problems coming up with the money while SA is in the midst of a severe recession.
I think "severe" is more the word used to describe what's happening in the US...
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I think "severe" is more the word used to describe what's happening in the US...
No it is happening everywhere in the world. and the US is not the worst affected. Singapore today said that their economy will decline by 9% this year and see no growth next year. Both Taiwan and South Korea will see their economies decline by 10% in 09. It's happening and better get used to it as I think SA will see two solid years of recession as the socio-economic situation in SA is far worse than Asia since 40% of the workforce is unemployed and still rising. Economists here in SA say the economy will contract 3% this year while there will be nil growth in 2010. The World Cup will only add 0.4% to GDP which won't do much to alleviate the situation.
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OK, so if Singapore's economy is receding by 9%, and we're receding by 3% this year and have no growth next year...how exactly can you call the two situations equal? In the words of Trevor Manuel himself: South Africa's economy is doing better than expected at the moment.
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We have the world cup, ipl, confed cup, British lions, and a few others. Plus our economy is still getting impetus from all the the infrastructure projects. We are hanging in there very well - and our tourist industry looks set to survive these tough times, unlike most other tourist industries in the world - like in oz, where it is in absolute freefall!

Just saying that it is worth pointing out that SA is doing well in comparison to, well, just about anywhere.
Must be something of a surprise to those nasty expats who trumpeted that SA was a banana republic BEFORE the recession...dream on...
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been in the US (coast to coast) and the UK in the past month. Just back from SA last week and the difference is astounding.

US and UK in deep shit, shops cloased lesft right and centre, general negativity everywhere, its all people talk about.

Sa was more measured in its view on the global crisis but I dont think its hit SA 100% yet. SA is better placed based on FICA and the credit cointrol act hense less toxic debts but its exports will be hard hit which in turn pulls doewn manufacturing and mining (sas 2 top GDP earners)

Sa needs to drop intrest rates faster than they have and to feed more into national infrastructure projects.

Sa is generally in a bettr position but should not let complacency take root
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Our high intrest rates saved our ass big time, tho I think our current period is our hardest hit time, though some economist claim the worst is still to come, but Im not so sure about that.
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Australia is bad news everywhere- we the taxpayers having to foot the bill for PM Kevin Rudd's stimulus packages (3 so far) that will mean a huge deficit for year's to come. And interests rates in OZ are at 3% down from almost 8%-lowest since 1959. Buildings are being cancelled as well. Not pretty!! ZA is better off (for the moment anyway) so enjoy it...
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been in the US (coast to coast) and the UK in the past month. Just back from SA last week and the difference is astounding.

US and UK in deep shit, shops cloased lesft right and centre, general negativity everywhere, its all people talk about.

Sa was more measured in its view on the global crisis but I dont think its hit SA 100% yet. SA is better placed based on FICA and the credit cointrol act hense less toxic debts but its exports will be hard hit which in turn pulls doewn manufacturing and mining (sas 2 top GDP earners)

Sa needs to drop intrest rates faster than they have and to feed more into national infrastructure projects.

Sa is generally in a bettr position but should not let complacency take root

Yup - it is coming. I work in the bulk shipping industry and see it first hand. althought wheat and soyabeanmeal ( for animal feed ) imports have not reduced significantly, the volumes of ferro alloys and minerals being exported has plumetted. Companies like Xstra are shutting down furnaces left right and centre.

A number of the ships that you see anchored off Durban are not waiting for berths, they are no trading. Pics of ships laid up off Singpaore are doing the rounds and it is scary how things have tailed off.

If interest rates are lowered surely we will see investors putting money into long term plans that will boost the local economy - wind and solar farms are expensive and take a long time to recoup the capital, however we have wind and we have plently of sunshine. Likewise we have huge agricultural potential but need to invest heavily in both training and equipment.

lower interest rates may mobilize idle money ( and there is still plenty of that lying around in Europe ) into our economy.
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