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Old February 1st, 2012, 05:40 PM   #1
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Rathbone Market | Newham | 74m | 22 fl

Go past this development a lot. Its a big project, so I thought it deserves its own thread.

The redevelopment of Rathbone Market is being undertaken by Newham Council's partners English Cities Fund (ECF). The first phase of building works should be completed by August 2012 with 271 new homes built and new shops units being created. Ultimately the scheme will see a total of 650 new homes built.

Location: Canning Town, London Borough of Newham
Architects: CZWG Architects LLP
Client: English Cities Fund - a joint venture between English Partnerships, Legal and General and Muse Developments
Content: 62000 sq m in total, 52000 sq m residential, 4500 sqm of retail, 2600 sq m new typology of LSC and a privately run market
Completion Date: Expected by 2015 - Awarded planning permission in March 2009



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Old February 1st, 2012, 06:15 PM   #2
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Old February 1st, 2012, 06:42 PM   #3
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The towers not too bad, and it certainly looks better than what was there before. Why, though, do new schemes in East London have to have tacky colours plastered all over them? Is that some sort of requirement from Newham's planning department?
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Why shoudn't buildings have colour? I really like this new wave of coloured buildings, look at what Rogers does with colour.

Why do buildings have to be one colour?

Look at the ancient greeks, they painted all there buildings beautiful colours. We can't see these original colours now due to age but at the time they would have been amazing.

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Old February 1st, 2012, 10:16 PM   #5
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Rogers and Piano do colour beautifully...this looks bland and forced...though I agree much better then what is there. Absolutely hate the metallic looking cladding.
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Old February 1st, 2012, 10:34 PM   #6
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God that's nasty.
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 12:58 PM   #7
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The towers not too bad, and it certainly looks better than what was there before. Why, though, do new schemes in East London have to have tacky colours plastered all over them? Is that some sort of requirement from Newham's planning department?
do they have a planning department?
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 01:03 PM   #8
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Looks a bit like East German in the 1960s
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 02:46 PM   #9
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was wondering if there was a thread for this... been watching it rise over the last few months from North Greenwich.
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 02:55 PM   #10
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Looks a bit like East German in the 1960s
I dont mind the splashes of colour, the lack of detail on most of the silvery grey panelling facades is a bit ominous especially with the small windows. More generous windows would have made a world of difference.

Now it all depends how clean the panels can keep over the years. Overall the massing has more coherence than Stratford Hight Street as obviously this is a single developer versus the over-stretched Newham planning dept.
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 03:07 PM   #11
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Colour on buildings is fine if it's the right colour. This has a whiff of the Barratt Homes 'Fusion' tower in Poplar about it... as is yuck

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Old February 2nd, 2012, 03:35 PM   #12
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Certainly the colour used on the Rathbone Market is more striking (braver?) than the Barratts effort, the strong colours are in slithers and highlights rather than the expanse of the safer terracotta (that was all the rage back then) along with the large expanse of an alternate colour to try and break up the mass, the Barratts block would certainly look far worse without the 2nd colour.

At least with something bold and strong, if it doesn't work out you can rely on it endearing, that Barratts block just looks awkward and forlorn yet obvious in its presence.

The Rathbone scheme has gone for a rather bland grey silvery main cladding, my main gripe with these types of buildings is not the silvery grey cladding (which is quite popular at the moment) is that the window proportions in anywhere but the living room just are not attractive. This is a problem for cheaper large builds and tower structures as you get very poor sides that dominate. The Georgians got the use of windows right.

However the grey silvery panelling if we are going to go for cheap builds (which is what all these out of zone1 buildings are basically), is that it can help to hide the massing without resorting to heavy handed cladding tactics it has a very clever lightness and suits Londons changeable weather. Obviously a preferred tactic would be for proud intrinsic elegance via vertical emphasis instead of having to resort to trickery but this is London.

The Terrecotta on the Barratts scheme, which was once everywhere even on high end builds, the colour is very heavy and warm, but it lacks the detail, weathering ability and texture of brick leaving an uninteresting but heavy presence.

If we are going for cheap I would rather lightness, which is why I don't mind the tactics of random cladding too as you get lightness + massing break up suggested by the subtle visual noise.
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Surely the duck egg blue will weather less well than the teracotta?
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 05:57 PM   #14
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ultimately you could clad a building in anything and if the proportions of the windows look generous and attractive it would look good.

We haven't yet found a way to juggle glass costs and energy efficiencies from solar gain into an attractive package.
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Old February 3rd, 2012, 07:39 PM   #15
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What do you think of the cladding now? To be honest, after seeing it today, the cladding looks better in real life than it does in the renders. Here is a picture i took today (3rd February 2012).

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Old February 3rd, 2012, 08:43 PM   #16
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Here's another render, from the opposite side...



And here's the website: http://www.rathbonemarket.com/

And...voilā!

From the website's gallery, the cladding.

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Old February 4th, 2012, 09:54 AM   #17
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Has a whiff of Playstation 2 about it

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Old February 4th, 2012, 11:05 PM   #18
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I have a feeling this is going to come off too brash. I like the window bands but they would be so much better with brick and wood. Like the Canada Water stuff.
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Old February 5th, 2012, 07:21 PM   #19
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Awful. Such loud-coloured, plain metal panels can only make a building look cheap and ruin the cityscape. The grey facade with its small windows probably won't be any better though, I expect it to turn out like this. The round mid-rise part looks like a car park.
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Old February 7th, 2012, 12:39 PM   #20
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At last London is getting some colour. What took them so long ?
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