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View Poll Results: Wich do you prefer, and why?
Proposal 1 5 20.83%
Proposal 2 7 29.17%
Proposal 3 2 8.33%
Proposal 4 4 16.67%
Proposal 5 1 4.17%
Proposal 6 5 20.83%
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Old September 29th, 2005, 03:18 PM   #1
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New start stadium - who is your favourite?

My team in (and the leader of)Eliteserien is deciding what stadium to build today, and fedrelandsvennen.no presents the 6 proposals. The stadium will cost between 120-150 million NOK, will start construction 2'nd january 2006 and be finished by 1'st march 2007.

Proposal 1: Start stadium
Capacity: 9948-13.962
Architect: Kosbergs Arkitektkontor A.S.




Proposal 2: Stadion i Torsvika
Capacity: 10.300-14.000
Architect: Biong Arkitekter A/S
Proposes to build a 15 floor highrise also, containing hotel, offices or apartments.




Proposal 3: The Beautiful Game
Capacity: 11.500+60 press seats
Architect: SMS Arkitekter AS




Proposal 4: Start-VIPpen
Capacity: 11.000- 14.000
Architect: Basis, Grĝnn Strek og Aros




Proposal 5: Start Forum
Capacity: unknown
Architect: HRTB Arkitekter




Proposal 6: Start Stadion
Capacity: 10.220-11.550
Architect: Signatur Arkitekter


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Old September 29th, 2005, 03:32 PM   #2
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Proposal 6....looks different....not like a stadium....
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Old September 29th, 2005, 03:52 PM   #3
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Proposal 2 or Poposal 6, can't decide yet! I thought they've already pronounced the winner, Signark's proposal, Proposal 6, but they was probably not the case, perhaps they was the favorites among somebody withinn the city council or investors of the project.

Proposal 2 is not perfect, the stadium don't look that great, but Torsvika is a very good situation for a high-rise ( ), and the stadium will be hidden quite well without it.

Proposal 6 is a nice proposal, simple but a beautiful design, and something new as cphdude said.
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Old September 29th, 2005, 04:20 PM   #4
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#6 looks nice, but the problem is capacity. Start has had an average of nearly 10.000 spectators this year, so it should have a capacity of atleast 14.000 imo.

#4 would also be nice, if it didn't lack the feel of beeing intimate.

I'm left with two alternatives, #1 and #2. I'll vote for #2 because it looks to me like an extension is possible on this alternative. And the architects have drawn famous stadiums like Ullevaal stadium, Color Line Stadium in Ċlesund, Vallhall in Oslo, Sĝrlandshallen in Kristiansanda and the Vikingship at Hamar.
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Old September 29th, 2005, 05:31 PM   #5
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And the architects have drawn famous stadiums like Ullevaal stadium, Color Line Stadium in Ċlesund, Vallhall in Oslo, Sĝrlandshallen in Kristiansanda and the Vikingship at Hamar.
Vikingeskipet is amazing, but Ullevaal sucks big time! That is one of the most ugly stadiums of Norway, sadly. Color Line Stadium in Ċlesund isn't the most incredible one either.
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Old September 29th, 2005, 07:49 PM   #6
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I would first like to point out that I do not watch soccer, or care about the game. However, I prefer number 3 because chairs are not separated into different "floors". It is also possible to walk around the entire stadium without having to go up or down, no matter what row you sit at. I think both these thinks make the stadium more "intimate", and actually also easier to evacuate if the soccer fans get too aggravated.
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Old September 29th, 2005, 08:00 PM   #7
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Vikingeskipet is amazing, but Ullevaal sucks big time! That is one of the most ugly stadiums of Norway, sadly. Color Line Stadium in Ċlesund isn't the most incredible one either.
Ullevċl isn't the nicest from the outside, but it can be a very good atmosphere on the inside. And that is one of the most important things imo.
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Old September 29th, 2005, 08:06 PM   #8
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Ullevċl isn't the nicest from the outside, but it can be a very good atmosphere on the inside. And that is one of the most important things imo.
It looks like hell inside too! , but the atmosphare is probably great none the less!

The winner of Starts new stadium, Proposal 1 was not the worst choise, Kosberg has proven his skills after Moldes stadium, Rica Seilet and his Nydalen projects.
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Old September 29th, 2005, 09:25 PM   #9
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Old September 29th, 2005, 10:56 PM   #10
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Nr. 1
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Old September 29th, 2005, 11:04 PM   #11
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I like highrises, so my vote should go to #2, but design is not so good , so i'll go with #6
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Old September 29th, 2005, 11:20 PM   #12
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As Christian wrote, proposal 1 won. Not bad at all, I like it! The capacity is not decided yet, from what I've read earlier they'll decide on that in December, and it depends on the financial situation.

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Old September 29th, 2005, 11:28 PM   #13
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Lets hope the capacity don't get less than 12-13 000, Kristiansand really need a greater stadium, not only for football usage. Start may die out pretty soon, and fall back to first division ( ) ! But if they really prove their worth an large expencive stadium, as they've already done they should stake on a 14 000 capacity stadium.
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Old September 30th, 2005, 09:34 AM   #14
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Start may die out pretty soon, and fall back to first division ( ) !
How is RBK doing these days?

Start won tippeligaen in 78 and 80, don't be fooled by the latest years of misery. They will always come back, as it is the team for all of Sĝrlandet.
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Old September 30th, 2005, 11:25 AM   #15
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^ Yeah, i guess your right , my football history knowledge is few, all i remember was some teams really great start a few years ago (Sogndal, Bryne etc.), then suddenly they died out.
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Sogndal and Bryne are small villages. Start is the dominant football-team for all of Sĝrlandet(population 265.000). For the same reason(their population-base), Vċlerenga, Viking, Brann and Rosenborg will also always be among the best teams I think.
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Old October 1st, 2005, 05:33 AM   #17
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The fourth proposal!
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Old October 2nd, 2005, 11:42 AM   #18
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6th proposal.
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Old October 2nd, 2005, 05:18 PM   #19
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Proposal 1 is good and will follow the crusial thing of building stadiums:

1. Not too large, not too small. A stadium with an average crowd of only 50 % is booring.
2. Corners should be filled with spectactors, or at least with buildings forming a wall, so there will be a soccerroom with no wind.

Kind of a boom in crowdlevel for the norwegian league this year..
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