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Old May 15th, 2013, 10:09 PM   #7221
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Interessant filmpje van Siemens over Infraspeed

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Old May 18th, 2013, 06:08 PM   #7222
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Ik kwam toevallig dit bericht tegen :

Eurostar Chief Reviews Amsterdam Route Plans on Dutch Track Fees

Eurostar Group Ltd. said it’s reviewing plans to operate trains from London to Amsterdam in the light of Dutch track access charges.
The 10 new e320 trains that Eurostar has ordered at a cost of 700 million pounds ($1.1 billion) could instead be deployed on existing routes to Paris and Brussels or to southern France, Chief Executive Officer Nicolas Petrovic said in an interview.

Eurostar Group Ltd. Chief Executive Officer Nicolas Petrovic talks about passenger numbers from outside Europe and new routes. He speaks with Francine Lacqua on Bloomberg Television's "On the Move." (Source: Bloomberg)
The first two e320s have begun trials with manufacturer Siemens AG (SIE), and deliveries to Eurostar should start in mid-2014, he said. Further testing through the Channel Tunnel may take another year before the model enters service in 2015.
“Amsterdam is a big market but we haven’t taken a decision yet on where the trains will go,” Petrovic said today in London. “The landscape in the Netherlands is different in terms of the track charges, with the high-speed line run by a consortium. So we might go for more frequencies elsewhere instead.”
Charges for using the HSL-Zuid line between Amsterdam and the Belgian border are set by NS Hispeed, in which Dutch state railway Nederlandse Spoorwegen holds a 90 percent stake, with Air France-KLM Group’s Dutch unit holding the rest. Mieke Bosman, an external spokeswoman for NS Hispeed, said she couldn’t immediately comment on Petrovic’s remarks.
NS Hispeed pays fees to the government, which in turn funds a 25-year upkeep contract held by Infraspeed BV, in which the leading investors are Fluor Corp. of the U.S. and Bunnik, Netherlands-based Royal BAM Group NV. (BAMNB)

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The possibility of using the new trains to add a route from London to Cologne may depend on whether German state railway company Deutsche Bahn AG gets a rival service up and running first, Petrovic said. That’s likely to happen in late 2015, Eurostar said, citing comments from the Berlin-based company.
The e320s, based on the Siemens Velaro D model, will run at speeds of up to 320 kilometers an hour (198 mph) and seat 900 people, 150 more than Eurostar’s existing fleet from Alstom SA (ALO), which will be revamped to a design from Italy’s Pininfarina SpA.
Eurostar will begin serving Lyon this year using its current fleet. The weekly service starting in May will allow people to reach France’s second-largest city from Britain without stopping in Paris, with trains carrying on to Avignon and Aix-en-Provence. An existing service to Avignon that runs in July and August will continue to operate.

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Old May 18th, 2013, 06:31 PM   #7223
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Was al bekend. Bericht is al eerder in dit topic gepost.
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Old May 18th, 2013, 07:27 PM   #7224
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Het bericht is niet geheel juist: de prijs wordt bepaald door de Rijksoverheid dmv een formule. Die formule is gebaseerd op het concessiebedrag gedeeld door het te verwachten aantal treinkilometers. NS Hispeed zal Eurostar juist verwelkomen, net als ICE, want daardoor daalt voor hun de treinpadprijs.
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Is toch eigenlijk echt jammer en dom...je bouwt een peperdure HSL-zuid, maar de mislukte constructie rijden er enkel wat Thalys-treinen over (en mss ooit terug een Fyra, al wil je dat mss liever niet). Dat Eurostar niet naar Amsterdam doorrijd is toch echt wel jammer...
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Old Yesterday, 01:41 PM   #7226
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Het primaire probleem van de hsl in NL is natuurlijk dat het primair op NL is gericht & internationale reizigers op schiphol.
Je hebt met de -vooralsnog- enkele hsl hier geen structureel voordeel vanuit andere landen wanneer je per trein reist.

NL zou voor eurostar e.a vervoerders stukken interessanter worden wanneer je een vertakking bij breda richting n/w & n/o duitsland zou hebben met 'n stop dan wel in breda (voor overstappers op 'n werkende fyravariant) &/of arnhem/nijmegen.
Zo zou je nl. treinreizen vanuit hamburg, hannover, berlijn, denemarken/zweden richting belgië, west-frankrijk & engeland 'n stuk interessanter maken.
Voorwaarde is natuurlijk dat zo'n hsl-verbinding wel voor 360+ geschikt is. (en voor 'n riant deel ondergronds gaat, maar da's lange termijndenken)


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...Nu ik ff op goochelmaps heb gespiekt,
'n hslverbinding vanaf breda via arnhem, enschede naar bremen lijkt mij wel wat.
Als ze het profiel a'dam-utrecht-arnhem opwaarderen tot 200 begin je ook 'n degelijke binnenlandse hsl te ontwikkelen.

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