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Old July 11th, 2006, 08:59 AM   #61
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Thanks for those photos Xuite... the look good. My hope for the Joburg public transport system is that it is one day as efficient as London... it all works like clockwork here.
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Let's just hope Gautrain will be a great success(can't say a smashing success)!!
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Old July 19th, 2006, 01:09 PM   #62
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Johannesburg - The construction of the multimillion rand Gautrain project may begin within six weeks.

An informed source in the project team on Tuesday told Beeld, sister publication of Fin24, that the team members were "holding their breath" in the hope that final financial negotiations on building the train will be completed "by the end of August or early in September".

Once this milestone has been reached, construction can "begin immediately".

The project team initially wanted to hold the sod-turning ceremony in February, but negotiations with the Bombela consortium responsible for the R20bn project are still dragging on.

Court cases by the industrial and property group AECI and residents of the prestigious suburb Dunkeld in Johannesburg also threaten to put a spoke in the Gautrain's wheels, though informed sources in the project team did not think the cases would delay construction if the final signatures were on paper.

Traffic disruptions

Many experts and property developers told Beeld on Tuesday they feared that building work could disrupt traffic severely, especially in Rosebank and Sandton, but as soon as the bullet train was running, the future would be rosy.

Dust, greater traffic congestion and construction noise could mean that "slightly fewer people" would visit the Rosebank Mall and Zone shopping centre during building operations, but Gautrain consultant for the Rosebank management district Yasmeen Dinath said the prospects after the project had been completed were "extremely positive".

Gautrain stations will be built at Park Station in Johannesburg, Rosebank, Sandton, Marlboro, Midrand, Centurion, Pretoria and Hatfield.

Johannesburg International (OR Tambo) Airport and Rhodesfield would connect with Sandton via a separate line.

Tower flats

"People might shop closer to home for a while, but eventually train passengers will get off the train, do their shopping and then travel further. It'll be very good for Rosebank," Dinath said.

But she added that a proper secondary transport system would be essential to prevent passengers being "stranded" at the stations.

A new hotel, shops, flats and "perhaps eventually tower flats" are also being planned for the area next to the Zone and the Gautrain station, said Rommel Lukuko of the Old Mutual property group that owns the Zone.

"You see tower buildings near underground train stations overseas. We foresee it will happen here too."

Also in Sandton, where a gigantic atrium will lead to the station deep underground, the owners of Sandton City are holding their breath in the hope that the train will eventually "help to relieve traffic congestion in and around the city", said deputy chief executive of Liberty Life properties Caswell Rampheri.

But that will only be in 2010 or later.

Property price boost

"There is lots of potential to disrupt people's lives, especially when you build in suburbs as is the case with the Gautrain," warned E-Prop's Frank Reardon. "It could become unpleasant."

But if "people use the train and it is managed well", property prices could rise nicely.

And for socialites who do not drive after drinking, it "brings the reality of a 24-hour city a little closer", Reardon said.

"Just think - you can live in Sandton and go out to dine in Rosebank - without breaking any laws on the way home!"

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Old August 11th, 2006, 01:15 PM   #63
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The second phase of construction on the Gautrain will proceed in Johannesburg after judgment was reserved in a recent court application to stop work for an environmental impact report, the rail construction company said on Thursday.

"The second stage will see the removal of trees along various roads in and around the Rosebank and Sandton area to enable the construction teams to commence with road upgrades," said Barbara Jensen, spokesperson for Gautrain Rapid Rail Link Project.

She said the removal of trees was guided by an environmental management plan.

"For every three [trees] that are removed as part of the project, they will be salvaged and relocated [planted in another area], or if they can't be salvaged, be replaced [at they spot they were removed] when construction is done."

Last week, Pretoria residents applied to the Pretoria High court to halt construction immediately for an environmental impact report. The residents claimed harm would be done to the environment.
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Old August 11th, 2006, 01:17 PM   #64
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SANDOWN residents will be without water on Sunday, 13 August, as Gautrain operations to install infrastructure get under way.

An apologetic Gautrain construction team says there'll be scheduled disruptions in the form of a "total water shutdown" from 7am to 7pm on the day.

New water supply pipelines to the east of Rivonia Road have already been laid, and the upcoming shutdown will allow the existing water line in 5th and West streets to be connected to the new line.

This is part of the enabling works programme, in which power lines, gas and water pipes will be relocated to take in new stations at Sandton and Marlboro, and at the Gautrain's starting point Park Station and the next station, Rosebank.

"In anticipation of such works, Gautrain will embark on several scheduled utilities disruptions for the next few months as part of Initial Works," says a Gautrain statement.

The Sandton Station is to be the flagship station and will go underground 40 metres or 12 storeys. Work has been ongoing on the relocation of telecoms and electricity cables and water and sewerage infrastructure in the area.

Rivonia Road will soon have major diversions. Katherine Street and West Road will be upgraded, after which the northbound side of Rivonia Road will be closed until the end of construction of the Sandton Station, at the end of 2009. Northbound traffic will be diverted along the southbound side of Rivonia Road, while southbound traffic will be diverted along West Road and Katherine Street back into Rivonia Road at Sandton Drive.

The Sandton taxi rank, on the corner of Rivonia and West roads, will be relocated to the corner of West Road and Stella Street in July.

Disruptions have also occurred at Rosebank, where the servitude lane along Oxford Road outside The Zone has been closed. The demolition of Modutec Office Furniture at 130 Oxford Road, plus the two houses immediately south of it, will be demolished within the next few weeks.

Digging will start in four to five weeks, says Barbara Jensen, spokesperson for the Gautrain. "This will see major road closures around Park Station in Braamfontein and along Oxford Road in Rosebank.
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Old August 11th, 2006, 01:19 PM   #65
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hahaha sandown nimbys
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Old August 11th, 2006, 02:35 PM   #66
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stole this for the arch dept during photoshop lesson proposal 4 hatfield station
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Old August 11th, 2006, 03:59 PM   #67
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haha... kewlll. Swipe some more, k?
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eish... this one is not so good..

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Hundreds of trees to be removed for Gautrain
http://www.joburg.org.za/2006/aug/aug11_gautrain.stm
August 11, 2006
By Lucille Davie

UP to 300 well-established trees will be removed from some of the city's main arterials in the run-up to the construction of the Gautrain.

Five poplars have already been removed outside the proposed Sandton Station in Rivonia Road, says Mike Griffiths, senior manager of street trees with Johannesburg City Parks. These had to be removed because their roots were a problem in the relocation of the underground services infrastructure.

A total of 317 trees have been identified by Bombela, the construction company for the Gautrain, as being a problem for road widening, part of the Initial Works programme in preparation for construction.

Around 50 of these trees have been identified for pruning, says Griffiths, while some 270 will have to be removed.

All the large plane trees in Sturdee Avenue between Bolton and Jellicoe avenues are to be removed, along with several white stinkwoods, which are indigenous. Jacarandas and palm trees along Bolton Road and Jellicoe Avenue are also to be removed.

Griffiths has estimated that the value of the trees to be removed is R1,8-million, without the cost of removal and possible transplanting.

While more meetings are to be held with Bombela to finalise the details, large trees - white stinkwoods, palms, plane trees and pin oaks - in the islands along Bolton Road, Jellicoe Avenue and Baker Street in Rosebank have been identified as being in the way of road widening plans.

"The removal of trees is guided by the Environmental Management Plan (EMP) which advocates that every tree removed as part of the Project, will be replaced where possible," says a statement from Bombela.

Bombela has undertaken to replace all exotics - palms, plane trees and pin oaks - with indigenous trees.

Griffiths is keen for trees that are being removed to be transplanted to Soweto, but he is not sure whether Bombela will agree to this.

Griffiths is particularly concerned about the removal of a golden trumpet tree on the corner of Oxford Road and Biermann Avenue. There are 15 more of these in Oxford Road which he fears will also be removed.

"The removal will generally last for short periods of time and will result in temporary lane closures along certain roads and not total road closures," says Bombela.

The process of replacing large trees is complicated, says Griffiths, and could take up to three years. It involves root pruning for two years, to get the root ball to a size that makes it possible to lift the tree out of the ground. Only in the third year can the tree finally be lifted and transplanted.

"This costs a lot of money," he says, "people don't appreciate the value of trees."

"The planting of replacement trees will take place with the full support of the City of Johannesburg Parks Division," adds Bombela.

Construction of the high-speed Gautrain between Park Station in Joburg and Hatfield Station in Tshwane, and the Johannesburg International Airport has begun, with road closures in Sandton and Rosebank, in place for around four years, soon to be a reality of everyday life for Joburgers.

Sandown residents will be without water on Sunday, 13 August, when new water supply pipelines will be connected to the newly laid line.

Residents are requested to call the Gautrain toll-free number - 0800Gautrain or 0800 428 872 46 - to report any major incidents.
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Old August 11th, 2006, 07:35 PM   #69
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Lots of work going on in Sandton. Most of the streets ard the library have been dug up, and a lot of trees have been spray painted with a green mark, obviously the unlucky fellas earmarked for felling :p

Btw, the main work in Sandton will be done from the Mushroom Farm Park (opp new aston martin showrooms), where a large 40m hole is to be dug from where the underground tunnels will be dug. You can find renders of the park towards the bot of this PDF..

http://www.gautrain.co.za/contents/r...t%20Report.pdf

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Old August 11th, 2006, 07:40 PM   #70
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Ouch... with regards to the trees

But atleast it's getting done now, and then the new ones can regrow. We can't put off the train just for trees, unfortunately.

But yes, trees are SO important So it's a shame.
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isn't joburg the biggest man made forest ??
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yip heard that one too
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Old August 15th, 2006, 05:18 PM   #73
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hi i made 1000post yay not so junior anymore
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haha well done hsark, Hey the nick name for this train can be the "G-Train" like that groove amada song, but that song was'nt one of my favourates on that album,
anyways lets hope this train will be "supastylin"
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Old August 19th, 2006, 01:04 PM   #76
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"Gautrain will be running in 2010" - Jeff Radebe Minister of Transport. He said that yesterday.
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Old August 20th, 2006, 11:29 PM   #77
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...Hey the nick name for this train can be the "G-Train"...
Lol, g-train sounds too much like Gravy Train. Not a very good connotation :P
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Old August 21st, 2006, 04:40 PM   #78
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Government will say alsorts pule, the contractors said that nothing will be complete by 2010 due to delays in starting and approval, and the court cases
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Wrong dysan1. The contractors said that only the JIA-Sandton route would be ready by 2010, and maybe the Sandton-Pretoria, depending the court outcomes. As for the Sandton-CBD, they said it would not be ready by 2010
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actually u are right, they did say that initially. But i read an article that stated that even tho they thought the JIA-Sandton route wld be ready, they no longer believe it will due to court cases, EIA...

Anyway, even if they tell u "YES it will be ready"...it wont be, projects of this complexity are never completed on time, for there are 1000's of potential problems they will only encounter once they start digging.
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