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Old May 11th, 2017, 12:59 PM   #1761
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Museum of London: Proposals for a see-
through tunnel could put
Thameslink commuters on show




http://www.standard.co.uk/goingout/a...-a3535156.html


http://londonist.com/london/transpor...seum-of-london


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Old May 11th, 2017, 03:21 PM   #1762
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Old May 11th, 2017, 03:30 PM   #1763
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Until some disgruntled commuter gives everyone in the Museum the finger, and some clueless tourist complains to the Museum staff about the content of their 'exhibit'.

Still, I'm quite keen to see into the working tunnels.

Or, thinking back to an old story about my Uncle. My Dad went to collect him from the station, as the train pulled in he knew exactly what carriage he was in as it was the only one with a bare arse hanging out of a window, mooning everyone on the platform.
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Old May 11th, 2017, 03:47 PM   #1764
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Or, thinking back to an old story about my Uncle. My Dad went to collect him from the station, as the train pulled in he knew exactly what carriage he was in as it was the only one with a bare arse hanging out of a window, mooning everyone on the platform.
This is why we can't have nice trains.
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Old May 11th, 2017, 03:49 PM   #1765
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Until some disgruntled commuter gives everyone in the Museum the finger, and some clueless tourist complains to the Museum staff about the content of their 'exhibit'.

Still, I'm quite keen to see into the working tunnels.

Or, thinking back to an old story about my Uncle. My Dad went to collect him from the station, as the train pulled in he knew exactly what carriage he was in as it was the only one with a bare arse hanging out of a window, mooning everyone on the platform.
I was just thinking along the same lines - never mind the "finger" - what about a train load of exposed bottoms wending by. I never forget, coming home from school one day by bus (in a rural area) and as "our" bus caught up and overtook another heading to the same village, the entire top deck was mooning us.
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That used to be one of the highlights of away games when I was at school - mooning cars on the M4 or A4 while the master(s) in charge inexplicably sat in the front row next to the driver.
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Old May 11th, 2017, 05:21 PM   #1767
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Until some disgruntled commuter gives everyone in the Museum the finger, and some clueless tourist complains to the Museum staff about the content of their 'exhibit'.

Still, I'm quite keen to see into the working tunnels....
Perhaps an electronic 'moon filter' could be added to the windows...
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Old May 11th, 2017, 11:29 PM   #1768
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I was just thinking along the same lines - never mind the "finger" - what about a train load of exposed bottoms wending by:

Well, at least passengers who were cyclists would have somewhere to park their bikes.



See, blue-sky thinking. Two problems lead to one solution.

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Old September 9th, 2017, 01:43 PM   #1769
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Does anyone know what is the issue with the new class 700 Thameslink trains?

There seems to be having lots of failures. Today there were plenty of cancellations (according to guys from Herne Hill) and most of them due to "faulty train"

What are the issues? Software? Mechanical? Something else?
It really happens quite a lot.
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Does anyone know what is the issue with the new class 700 Thameslink trains?

There seems to be having lots of failures. Today there were plenty of cancellations (according to guys from Herne Hill) and most of them due to "faulty train"

What are the issues? Software? Mechanical? Something else?
It really happens quite a lot.

I was on one this morning. I can't contribute any answers to your questions, but let me ask much less important ones.

I was looking down the train, and wondered why we have completely open gangways the whole length of coupled sets nowadays.

What advantages?

Better security, easier averaging out of overcrowding, quicker loading at simply the nearest door, knowing you can walk through the train when on board?

I see the graphical displays show where there is space on the trains, using the weighing sensors of each carriage.


And why not in earlier years?

Because coaches were less reliable, so close coupling probably for the life of a train was inconceivable?




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Old September 9th, 2017, 10:55 PM   #1771
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Does anyone know what is the issue with the new class 700 Thameslink trains?

There seems to be having lots of failures. Today there were plenty of cancellations (according to guys from Herne Hill) and most of them due to "faulty train"

What are the issues? Software? Mechanical? Something else?
It really happens quite a lot.

According to those in the know on another forum, it's normally due to software issues with the on-board computer. "Power issue" seems to be the fault reason given. For instance one cancellation was due to a computer registering pantograph power supply issues at Elephant & Castle. Yup, there would be a problem with that all right!
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Old September 17th, 2017, 03:25 AM   #1772
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Not related to the apparent problems with the rolling stock, it seems testing of the new Automatic Train Operation (ATO) system through the central section is progressing well.

http://www.railtechnologymagazine.co...signal-testing

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ATO will provide a theoretical capacity of 30tph through the core, explained Chatfield, which creates the capacity headroom to run 24tph with manageable recovery margins.

“Conventional signalling offers 20tph and ETCS offers 21tph,” he said. “ATO will then provide 24tph. But in perturbation, we would expect to be able to run up to 30tph to recover the timetable as quickly as possible.

“ATO is showing through the testing that we are achieving consistent journey times whilst under ATO, which reinforces the modelling that we have been doing.”

Network Rail’s testing has, so far, shown that, should a train not able to run in ETCS or ATO, it can actually deliver 24tph with two trains not running in ETCS and ATO. If there was an on-board system fault with one train, and that ran conventionally, the team is still confident that if the rest of the system was working, and the other trains were still in ATO, 24tph could still be delivered.
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Crappy news article repeating a press release only (it's late so I can't be bothered to look), but the phasing for opening has been announced.
https://www.mynewsdesk.com/uk/govia-...etable-2285889

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How the new Thameslink service will be introduced

May 2018 – 18 trains per hour in the peak between St Pancras and Blackfriars: services from Cambridge to Maidstone East operate between Cambridge and London King’s Cross; Southeastern continues to operate Maidstone East to Blackfriars.

December 2018 – 20 trains per hour in the peak between St Pancras and Blackfriars: additional 1 train per hour Cambridge-Brighton; additional 1 train in peak Littlehampton – Bedford (50% increase on existing service)

May 2019 – 22 trains per hour in the peak between St Pancras and Blackfriars: Welwyn Garden City – King’s Cross trains and Blackfriars – Sevenoaks trains run as joined-up Welwyn Garden City – Sevenoaks services

December 2019 – 24 trains per hour in the peak between St Pancras and Blackfriars: Cambridge – King’s Cross trains (2 trains per hour) extended to/from Maidstone East.
So the May 2018 high peak timetable is
  1. 2tph Bedford - Brighton
  2. 2tph Bedford - Gatwick Airport
  3. 2tph Bedford - East Grinstead
  4. 1tph Bedford - Littlehampton (2tph from Dec '18)
  5. 2tph Peterborough - Horsham
  6. 1tph Cambridge - Brighton (2tph from Dec '18)
  7. 2tph Cambridge - Kings Cross (to extend to Maidstone East Dec '19)
  8. 2tph Welwyn Garden City - Kings Cross (to be merged May '19)
    2tph Blackfriars - Sevenoaks (to be merged May '19)
  9. 2tph Luton - Orpington
  10. 2tph Luton - Rainham
  11. 2tph St Albans City - Wimbledon - Sutton ...
  12. 2tph St Albans City - Mitcham - Sutton ...
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