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Old November 22nd, 2017, 06:37 AM   #1981
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Where is Mark Latham when you need him?

The ALP needs to go back to it's roots and stop peddling the same crap that the Greens do just to try and win support from hipsters.

I'd also rather some more politicians who seem like human beings and not robotic spin machines (like Andrew Daniels and John Brumby). I feel for Jane Garrett as she actually put herself out there for her belief.
Mark Latham = an utter nut case and traitor to ALP values Says it all if you think he would have made a great PM!Garrett another slimey little traitor and she was 100% wrong.Dont forget an inquiry reccommnded the CFA be kicked out of the outer suburbs not the government.

Andrews is right about the CFA they have NO place in the burgeoning outer suburbs of Melbourne These new suburbs are home to hundreds of thousands of new residents need a proper Fire Service not the hodge pogde of the CFA!
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Old November 22nd, 2017, 06:38 AM   #1982
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Where is Mark Latham when you need him?

The ALP needs to go back to it's roots and stop peddling the same crap that the Greens do just to try and win support from hipsters.

I'd also rather some more politicians who seem like human beings and not robotic spin machines (like Andrew Daniels and John Brumby). I feel for Jane Garrett as she actually put herself out there for her belief.
The Liberals need to go back to their roots, and not this Conservative rubbish.


BTW, I didn't think you liked the roots of the Labor Party? (BTW, Latham is not the roots of the Labor Party)
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Old November 23rd, 2017, 03:54 AM   #1983
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Safe schools!!??? You think that I should actually want my money spent on this crap?



Clearly you live in the Northcote electorate which is far out of line from any form of rationality and normality. You won't see me moving there any time soon
Coming from someone who's got "train to bintang land" under their profile.
Are we meant to think you are rational and normal? Then I'd rather be irrational and abnormal.
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Old November 23rd, 2017, 04:04 AM   #1984
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The Liberals need to go back to their roots, and not this Conservative rubbish.


BTW, I didn't think you liked the roots of the Labor Party? (BTW, Latham is not the roots of the Labor Party)
Agree - the so-called 'Liberals' have wandered at least as far from their roots as a 'Liberal' party as Labor have from theirs.

Menzies - this might surprise you - was actually in the UK at the start of the war, a guest of a 'Conservative Party' government so I suspect he was more than acutely aware of why you might call your party 'Conservative' yet he chose the name 'Liberal' very deliberately and carefully.

Just as the 'Labor Party' was not the 'Socialist Party' or even the 'Social Democratic Party' [and more the pity in that case!] it is not as if the founders were not aware of those monikers or their meaning. They were deliberate choices.

As for Latham, he has drunk too deeply of the root of bitterness (and alcohol as well no doubt!)
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Old November 23rd, 2017, 04:10 AM   #1985
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Where is Mark Latham when you need him?

The ALP needs to go back to it's roots and stop peddling the same crap that the Greens do just to try and win support from hipsters.

I'd also rather some more politicians who seem like human beings and not robotic spin machines (like Andrew Daniels and John Brumby). I feel for Jane Garrett as she actually put herself out there for her belief.
Not sure I can agree with you about your alignment with the forces of darkness on LGBTIQ issues but I do agree that Labor struggle when they drift too far from hardcore issues of economics for the middle class.

This is where I think Whitlam and Rudd understood well what was going on.

Keep it simple, focused on people's actual experiences, not what economics textbooks or think tanks say.
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Old November 23rd, 2017, 06:18 AM   #1986
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Koornang Rd, Carnegie.



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Old November 23rd, 2017, 02:49 PM   #1987
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Coming from someone who's got "train to bintang land" under their profile.
Jealous that I'm living the dream in Bali and you're not?

Meanwhile as I'm getting yet another massage for a small amount of rupiah, a you're most likely sitting in some bizarre sort of basement shrine to Daniel Andrews, the RTBU and the CFMEU, yelling at a wall in anger about your $70k salary for probably a job consisting of doing nothing at all on a railway station all day not being enough
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Old November 24th, 2017, 03:42 AM   #1988
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Changing the subject...the western ramp to the Noble Park structure is looking very advanced. Not the eastern one though.
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Noble park. Stolen from LXRA facebook, so apologies for the size.

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Old November 25th, 2017, 03:32 AM   #1990
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Jealous that I'm living the dream in Bali and you're not?

Meanwhile as I'm getting yet another massage for a small amount of rupiah, a you're most likely sitting in some bizarre sort of basement shrine to Daniel Andrews, the RTBU and the CFMEU, yelling at a wall in anger about your $70k salary for probably a job consisting of doing nothing at all on a railway station all day not being enough
The words 'dream' and 'bali' should never be used in the same sentence. Gross. But you enjoy yourself ok?!
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Will do mate. Am in Melbourne this weekend but will be back to living it up with the FIFO boys from WA in Kuta's clubs next weekend

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Anybody else go for a ride on Nick Staikos/LXRA's steam train between Caulfield and Moorabbin today?

The crowds were pleasantly light today, still a few empty seats but very sticky inside in the heat. Intetesring to ride in the old Tait cars.
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At Murrumbeena looks like one of the blue rulers that was doing the new up track and has been moved to begin the down track towards Hughesdale.
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Why isn't this thread on the Melbourne Roads and Infrastructure thread ? The trains will come and go just the same...right of way...so whether elevated or not should make no difference to trains...all good for cars though : )
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Anybody else go for a ride on Nick Staikos/LXRA's steam train between Caulfield and Moorabbin today?

The crowds were pleasantly light today, still a few empty seats but very sticky inside in the heat. Intetesring to ride in the old Tait cars.
Managed to get on the first trip that went in a northerly direction, even got to sit in the first class cabin. I will appreciate the aircon in current trains a bit more going forward.
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Noble Park Station.



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MELBOURNE Level Crossing Removal Project

These sky rail stations remind me a lot of the elevated stations on the Berlin S Bahn.

E.g. Hackescher Markt

https://goo.gl/images/vP4iZ4
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Looks kinda too ornate.

They remind me a bit of a modern version of the LIRR Babylon branch stations in New York (which I rode on back in June ):




Which funnily enough eventuated from a similar project to remove level crossings out in deep suburbia 40 years ago:
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Straddle carrier now heading towards Hughesdale, which has the same giant steel crossmembers as are used at Grange road.





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Looks kinda too ornate.

They remind me a bit of a modern version of the LIRR Babylon branch stations in New York (which I rode on back in June ):
I meant the general layout. The skyrail stations will be partly enclosed, not like the LIRR example you've provided - but yeah, similar kind of utilitarian finishing though.
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Looks kinda too ornate.
So you incessantly complain when the govt announces something, but then when they build it, it's "too ornate"?.
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