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Old August 25th, 2017, 04:26 PM   #6741
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I thought this might be interesting for followers of this thread here:
https://www.facebook.com/jonji.gonza...55077399599069

Very informative exchange of ideas and rebuttals re Cebu City BRT.



Note: There are some comments in a mix Cebuano-English.

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Jonji Gonzales is Michael Dino's assistant in OPAV - Office of the Presidential Assistant for the Visayas.
Same man who headed MCIA before privatization. His outlook is limited to his post, but he's not a strategic planner. He doesn't realize public infra and transit the most important thing to remember is not the cost of subsidies itself but the INDIRECT benefits through taxes and the commuter's productivity by improving transit in the city. The BRT is past its sell by date for Manila, and even Cebu. For Cebu they should take it forward into the future. Mr. Villarete's idea would have been great for Cebu city in the 90's. He talks about Curitiba BRT etc., but may be he should ojt first with Bogota transmilenio or the Lima one and learn from them. They are similar size cities as Manila. Cebu even if it's smaller in pop than Curitiba is a high density metro area, a growth area, and you need high density solutions. BRT will go old quickly in Cebu just as Bogota and Lima are learning. Plus, PH financially and economically is far far ahead of Villarete's PH in the 90s.

If they can only franchise My Bus to run on the fully dedicated bus lanes, that will already be MUCH LESS in cost and will have immediate impact on traffic in Cebu. It will buy the gov't time to plan and build LRT system which they connect the innercity with the outer city and beyond. They can even use a LRT or MRT to connect the island, north and south. Or they can replace the proposed BRT line with monorails!

Many major cities have subsidized transit systems. That is why they're in the first world of economic order. Only countries with third world mentality like to make a profit on public transit. That's why they are still third world.
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Old August 25th, 2017, 04:53 PM   #6742
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I remember those days. People here pinned their hopes on him to transform the leadership at MCIA. But when someone complained about T1's dilapidated ceiling, all he got was a lousy litany of excuses Oh, what a contrast to the privatization that followed!
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Old September 3rd, 2017, 07:03 AM   #6743
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BRT or the articulated buses or bendy buses in London first started on 2001 with 6 trial buses and increased to 130 buses on the roads till 2011 when it was phased out due to the increase in fare evasion/ dodging and safety issues - a few had caught fires (bus made by famous German Brand)... If Manila will have them the best areas will be Roxas Boulevard to Port Area & Taft Avenue to Plaza Lawton... If it doesn't work then bring in the trams...
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IMHO, BRT and Metro (LRT/MRT) should co-exist as follows: Metro stations should be spaced at least 2 kms from each other and serviced alongside by BRT stations spaced at 400-600m apart. Lateral routes can be serviced by the "modern/modified" PUVs as proposed by the government. ALL modes of transport have their place in society...
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IMHO, BRT and Metro (LRT/MRT) should co-exist as follows: Metro stations should be spaced at least 2 kms from each other and serviced alongside by BRT stations spaced at 400-600m apart. Lateral routes can be serviced by the "modern/modified" PUVs as proposed by the government. ALL modes of transport have their place in society...
A transportation mix. But first, just as I have been saying on the MM transit thread, they need a system wide map so they'll know which is rail, bus, puv. But for Cebu city, the BRT they plan is not the ideal mode of transport. They can instead use bus rapid lanes for say MyBus. Mactan can use the fancy BRT design they want to use, on the coastal road round the island.

As for station intervals, there is a formula for that based on catchment area. 400 is too far for inner city, in the suburbs they can do it higher as much as 1 km interval. For comparison, the LRT/MRT lines in Manila, the shortest is 800 m, and they can go as much as 1.5 km. That's a huge distance for inner city with no sidewalks!
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Epic na nga ang traffic sa EDSA! Tugade scraps major BRT project


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The removal of appropriations for the BRT EDSA project was discovered during the plenary debates on the DOTr’s proposed P70.3 billion budget for 2018 Monday (October 9).

“Mr. President, the BRT project for EDSA is being studied right now. And according to the officials, most of the cut are voluntary so that the Free Higher Education Act and other rehabilitation programs,” Senator Joseph Victor Ejercito, the agency’s budget sponsor, said upon questioning by Senator Ralph Recto.

Pressed further on the issue, Ejercito said the BRT EDSA project will be funded by Official Development Assistance instead of being a line item in DOTr’s budget.

“After [a] meeting, ADB officials recommended that the EDSA project for the BRT be scrapped but the ones in Cebu and Quezon Avenue are still recommended to push through,” he said.
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