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JackoGunnerGoCrazy · May 22nd, 2013, 12:36 AM

Do we have any expert straightners up in here?

lafta · May 22nd, 2013, 10:04 AM

why are these banners posted here? shouldnt they be in this thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=72257 ?

anyway, whats going on with the re-design? is there a deadline date for this? how long can we just have a stump in the heart of the city of london? having that stump there for ages probably makes the initial pinnacle design cost effective in comparison.

JackoGunnerGoCrazy · May 22nd, 2013, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lafta

why are these banners posted here? shouldnt they be in this thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=72257 ?

anyway, whats going on with the re-design? is there a deadline date for this? how long can we just have a stump in the heart of the city of london? having that stump there for ages probably makes the initial pinnacle design cost effective in comparison.

Maybe they'll just stick fairy fair lights on, a few plaques with Plato quotes on them and call it the Enlightened stump and be done with it.

Also, stop being a thread nazi

chill.

Cat man do · May 22nd, 2013, 01:54 PM

Think the moto here is, 'no news is no news'

lafta · May 22nd, 2013, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackoGunnerGoCrazy

Maybe they'll just stick fairy fair lights on, a few plaques with Plato quotes on them and call it the Enlightened stump and be done with it.

Also, stop being a thread nazi

chill.

understood.

lafta · May 22nd, 2013, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cat man do

Think the moto here is, 'no news is no news'

ok, cool. as to your avatar pic: "aint no fuckin thelma here, man!".

JackoGunnerGoCrazy · May 22nd, 2013, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lafta

understood.

Yep so no news

but something is bound to be announced eventually. And you were right about the thread thing by the way

Lilbaz · May 23rd, 2013, 04:08 AM

How much do you think the height will be cut by? I'm guessing it will still have to be the tallest of the cluster?

Cat man do · May 23rd, 2013, 09:59 AM

Press speculation a while back was suggesting a possible height increase. Nothing official though.

Ebeneezer_Goode · May 23rd, 2013, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lilbaz

How much do you think the height will be cut by? I'm guessing it will still have to be the tallest of the cluster?

I don't think there's any cause to assume that there'll be any height decrease at all at this point. If it's mixed use as was hinted at, it might even be taller.

NIMBY KILLA · May 23rd, 2013, 04:12 PM

Why the redesign in the first place? To make it cheaper?

Cat man do · May 23rd, 2013, 05:04 PM

Pretty much yea, and apparently to make it more attractive to tennants

Lilbaz · May 23rd, 2013, 05:21 PM

Read an interview with the architect who did st mary who said that a decrease in height and simplification of design was needed. I thought he got the nod to redesign. Sorry if a bit vague as on my phone so can't really check my facts.

JackoGunnerGoCrazy · May 23rd, 2013, 05:47 PM

A decrease in height could potentially ruin the whole cluster. I hope they dont fuck this up. They may well do though. Bluntly.

If you want a great tower as the pinnacle of the cluster we should be seeing big name architects fighting for the right to design it, unless we're all missing something we have second rate architects being begged to design something. This is London not some second rate city in Alabama. FFS.

Bottlefall · May 23rd, 2013, 06:43 PM

I'd say for this particular site height is more important than design in my opinion. The City already has some great architecture but not enough height. We can do just fine with a tall box but its crucial the height at least stays the same if not to be increased.

Loathing · Yesterday, 03:15 AM

I don't know about that: it has to have a "pinnacle" feel to it because it will be the zenith of the whole cluster; there has to be some element of spikiness to it's top or else it won't soar in the manner necessary to fulfil it's crucial role.

Lilbaz · Yesterday, 06:18 PM

Here's the article. Says it will still be tallest in the cluster.

http://www.estatesgazette.com/blogs/...ect-ken-s.html

Zin5ki · Yesterday, 08:22 PM

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It is worth recalling that such news is outdated. KPF are still the official architects.

Lilbaz · Yesterday, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Zin5ki

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It is worth recalling that such news is outdated. KPF are still the official architects.

Good to hear.

Btw what is the height restriction for the city? Or is there anywhere in London we may someday see a building taller than the shard?

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May 22nd, 2013, 10:04 AM	#11162
lafta Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 79 Likes (Received): 2	why are these banners posted here? shouldnt they be in this thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=72257 ? anyway, whats going on with the re-design? is there a deadline date for this? how long can we just have a stump in the heart of the city of london? having that stump there for ages probably makes the initial pinnacle design cost effective in comparison.

May 22nd, 2013, 01:54 PM	#11164
Cat man do Founder of the 'Gy'. Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Carrbridge/Highlands Posts: 2,058 Likes (Received): 38	Think the moto here is, 'no news is no news'

May 23rd, 2013, 04:08 AM	#11168
Lilbaz Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 139 Likes (Received): 9	How much do you think the height will be cut by? I'm guessing it will still have to be the tallest of the cluster?

May 23rd, 2013, 04:12 PM	#11171
NIMBY KILLA Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 47 Likes (Received): 4	Why the redesign in the first place? To make it cheaper?

May 23rd, 2013, 05:04 PM	#11172
Cat man do Founder of the 'Gy'. Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Carrbridge/Highlands Posts: 2,058 Likes (Received): 38	Pretty much yea, and apparently to make it more attractive to tennants

May 23rd, 2013, 05:21 PM	#11173
Lilbaz Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 139 Likes (Received): 9	Read an interview with the architect who did st mary who said that a decrease in height and simplification of design was needed. I thought he got the nod to redesign. Sorry if a bit vague as on my phone so can't really check my facts.

May 23rd, 2013, 06:43 PM	#11175
Bottlefall Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 241 Likes (Received): 12	I'd say for this particular site height is more important than design in my opinion. The City already has some great architecture but not enough height. We can do just fine with a tall box but its crucial the height at least stays the same if not to be increased.

Yesterday, 03:15 AM	#11176
Loathing Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 477 Likes (Received): 66	I don't know about that: it has to have a "pinnacle" feel to it because it will be the zenith of the whole cluster; there has to be some element of spikiness to it's top or else it won't soar in the manner necessary to fulfil it's crucial role.

Yesterday, 06:18 PM	#11177
Lilbaz Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 139 Likes (Received): 9	Here's the article. Says it will still be tallest in the cluster. http://www.estatesgazette.com/blogs/...ect-ken-s.html

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Zin5ki Unimposing goose Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: London Posts: 78 Likes (Received): 12	↑ It is worth recalling that such news is outdated. KPF are still the official architects.