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Old February 4th, 2011, 09:11 PM   #1
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Archbold Terrace Projects (Scottish Life House / Eaga House / Sandyford House) | Newcastle | Various | U/C

Not sure if this has been treated upthread, but its a proposal for a hotel on Archbold Terrace.

http://www.plus3.co.uk/mobile/

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Old February 11th, 2011, 01:56 PM   #2
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Not sure if this has been treated upthread, but its a proposal for a hotel on Archbold Terrace.

http://www.plus3.co.uk/mobile/

Scroll down a bit.
http://www.plus3.co.uk/#/scottish-life-house-hotel

mention of April 2011
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Old February 11th, 2011, 02:07 PM   #3
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This new hotel is said to be part of a major renovation of the "Scottish Life House Estate".

I think we will probably need a new 'Project Thread' to cover this one.
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Old February 11th, 2011, 06:35 PM   #4
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This new hotel is said to be part of a major renovation of the "Scottish Life House Estate".

I think we will probably need a new 'Project Thread' to cover this one.
I have searched for a planning application for this new hotel but haven't managed to find anything yet. Does anyone know where I can find it? I know it is mentioned they are due to start work in April so you would imagine a planning application would have been submitted by now.

There is a lot of movement currently in the hotel market in the city. Just looking at 2011..

Under construction/development:

- Sandman Signature, city centre
- Holiday Inn Newcastle, Jesmond
- Sleeperz, city centre
- Jurys Inn, Gateshead Quays
- Ramada Encore, Gateshead Quays

Due to commence in 2011:

- Crowne Plaza, city centre
- Newgate St, city centre
- Scottish Life House, city centre

And then theres also the hotel at the airport which is yet to be completed. Wasn't it also mentioned somewhere about a Hilton branded hotel in North Tyneside somewhere, Silverlink perhaps?
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Old March 3rd, 2011, 11:20 AM   #5
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News to me, but it seems you guys are aware of this. this will however be my view out of my bedroom window which is why NCC wrote to me asking if i wish to comment...

Reference: 2011/0256/01/DET
Alternative Reference: PP-01351317
Application Received: 19 Jan 2011
Address: Block C And D Scottish Life House Archbold Terrace Newcastle upon Tyne
Proposal: Conversion of part ground floor and level 1 of Block C and levels 2, 3, 4 and 5 of Blocks C and D from offices (Class B1) to a 130 bed hotel and 36 unit apart-hotel including bar/restaurant, meeting rooms and leisure rooms and provision of aluminium cladding to elevations
Status: Pending Consideration
Appeal Status:
Appeal Decision:


There are a few visualisations on the website... a dramatic improvement i think...
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Old March 3rd, 2011, 12:19 PM   #6
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Here are a couple of the 'before and after' visualisations from the Newcastle City Council Planning Applications Website . . .







It's not terribly clear from the above copies of the visualisations, but the roofline is planned to be different from how Scottish Life House is at present. It is higher and sloping and has some "Downing Plaza style" slopes and angles.
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Old March 4th, 2011, 02:38 AM   #7
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Here are a couple of the 'before and after' visualisations from the Newcastle City Council Planning Applications Website . . .







It's not terribly clear from the above copies of the visualisations, but the roofline is planned to be different from how Scottish Life House is at present. It is higher and sloping and has some "Downing Plaza style" slopes and angles.
This reminds me of those spot the difference quizzes you used to see....'there are 10 differences between these two pictures, see if you can see them all'. There's even a website: http://www.spotthedifference.com/

I'm sure that these renditions are very clever, but.... I ve only found two differences, actually three:
  • The cyclist and pedestrians
  • The yellow paint
  • The extra storey [sans windows..]
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Old March 4th, 2011, 11:21 AM   #8
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Looks like the emperor's new clothes to me. The application is for new aluminium cladding, so it's going to look horrible. I really don't think I've ever seen a building with aluminium cladding panels that looks respectable.
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This reminds me of those spot the difference quizzes you used to see....'there are 10 differences between these two pictures, see if you can see them all'. There's even a website: http://www.spotthedifference.com/

I'm sure that these renditions are very clever, but.... I ve only found two differences, actually three:
  • The cyclist and pedestrians
  • The yellow paint
  • The extra storey [sans windows..]


And I agree with Talisker about the cladding. It will look cheap and tatty.

Wonder what will replace the Meeting House next door.
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Oh and the tree in front of the hotel has been cut down a bit.
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 11:48 PM   #11
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As suggested at 'Post 3', here is (WEF 22nd March 2011) a new Project Thread for the Scottish Life House Hotel.

All posts have been transferred here from the 'Hotels' Thread.
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Old May 30th, 2011, 10:57 AM   #12
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PLANNING APPLICATION FOR SCOTTISH LIFE HOUSE HOTEL . .


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Originally Posted by Newcastle Historian; 18th May 2011
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- Conversion of part Scottish Life House to 130 bed hotel and 36 unit apart-hotel. Block C and D Scottish Life House, Archbold Terrace, Newcastle:

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Journal Commercial Property Supplement - Planning Applications - Wednesday 18th May 2011

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Old July 12th, 2011, 11:32 PM   #13
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While we are waiting for things to happen here, I came across a couple of photos of the building, from the past.


1 - During its construction, in 1973 . .




2 - In 1977, seen from inside the courtyard area, when BBC Radio Newcastle was still there, opposite The Royal Archer . .




Photos Courtesy of "Newcastle City Libraries / City Council PHOTOSTREAM" - http://www.flickr.com/photos/newcastlelibraries/
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Old July 13th, 2011, 01:23 AM   #14
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Best photo of cars ever.
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Great pics NH.

To be honest, they may well be able to tart SLH up (and having worked for the council and supported folks who worked there, it really did need it), but as long as it has that hideous Sandyford House attached to it in its current form, it's never going to look great.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 12:34 AM   #16
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Planning Application gone in for converting some of the blocks of Scottish Life House into a 4* Hotel (how many new hotels do we need!?!)

And I can't decide if this looks good, or bad? :-/



http://publicaccess.newcastle.gov.uk...=MB7Z6ABSAP000
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Planning Application gone in for converting some of the blocks of Scottish Life House into a 4* Hotel (how many new hotels do we need!?!)

And I can't decide if this looks good, or bad? :-/

http://publicaccess.newcastle.gov.uk...=MB7Z6ABSAP000
We keep asking this question on here and in reality in comparison to other core cities we haven't got as many hotels- we are just catching up. Newcastle is also a good city for hotel operators- it's has a booming weekend trade (although NCC may want to put an end to our evening economy so this could change) but it also has a good through the week- business trade too, many cities are either one it the other- busy through the week (Leeds for example) or good for weekend trade (York as an example). The bed occupancy of the hotels we do have is on of the highest outside of London.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 11:45 AM   #18
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Planning Application gone in for converting some of the blocks of Scottish Life House into a 4* Hotel.

I can't decide if this looks good, or bad?



http://publicaccess.newcastle.gov.uk...=MB7Z6ABSAP000

I think it would be great to see Scottish Life House fully brought back into life.

As ever with hotels, they really seem to 'wake a place up' with activity and light (bedrooms etc lit up in the evenings) and this would be a real benefit to this square, in my view, and it will be quite noticeable with it overlooking the CME (as shown above).
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I just think it's good to see old buildings being brought back to life, and in the state we are in now offices and retail ain't a very good idea for development- and the council doesnt seem to like bars or the like. All we could have had was student accom or a hotel. And your right it does bring a street back to life. The developments I most looking forward to obviously is the Co-op (if it ever happens) and the one on High Bridge.
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I just think it's good to see old buildings being brought back to life.

Interesting to think of a building built in 1973 as an "old" building

Mind, I suppose it is now nearly 40 years ago that Scottish Life House was built!
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