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Old August 23rd, 2010, 12:29 PM   #1
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#Peace Island - Table Bay - Cape Town

Proposed creation and development of an artificial off shore island in Table Bay between Robben Island and Dolphin Beach. 3km x 3km for 9,000,000 sqm of new ground.

Would suggest that this would have to overcome many significant hurdles before it could see the light of day but not that it is impossible...


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Old August 23rd, 2010, 02:08 PM   #2
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Interesting...but man I can only imagine the complaints they'll have to deal with from the NIMBY's!
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Old August 23rd, 2010, 04:04 PM   #3
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Nice idea, but why create a whole new island .... err.... we already have one...Robben Island, why not use what we have ... incorporate the jail as a tourist attraction??
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Old August 23rd, 2010, 04:34 PM   #4
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Man-made islands may seem "Cool," I'm not in favour of them. I honestly think this idea is just an idea and will not see the light of day... not in Cape Town particularly.

Man-made islands are dangerous investments and in our time of climatic shift, is a doomed property in the long-term. With the Cape being at the forefront of Climate Change policy in SA, I doubt this will be allowed to be built.

Also, the South Atlantic is NOT the place for low-lying man-made islands at the best of times.
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Old August 24th, 2010, 02:58 PM   #5
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what the heck. why not.
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Old August 24th, 2010, 04:30 PM   #6
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You can buy property there. I for sure am not interested. As I said... cool idea... but, 4m above-mean-sea-level in the Cape of Storms, no thanks. 4m AMSL during global warming, also... no thanks.
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Old August 24th, 2010, 05:24 PM   #7
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eeeewwww.
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Old August 24th, 2010, 08:16 PM   #8
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Why eeew? We need to start considering bold proposals....sleepy town is fast slipping into a coma.
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Old August 24th, 2010, 11:13 PM   #9
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Come on mo you must be being sarky? with the new coastal bill this legally could not take place
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Old August 25th, 2010, 05:28 AM   #10
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robben island is huge and should be developed. something like fisher island in miami, with a golf course (with paspallum grass so can irrigate with high salinity water) and houses and hotels with amazing views, the upkeep of the rest of the island would be funded out of this. So prison and quary etc would be preserved
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Old August 25th, 2010, 10:36 AM   #11
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@mo, im opposed to man made islands from a personal taste point of view especially in the case of cape town which is arguably the most naturally beautiful city in the world. my opinion is very subjective.

i dont know too much about man mad islands and i read only the objectives on the plug site. i don't see how this development can actually address those objectives. there are real social/developmental, environmental and economic concerns.

as for 'development' of robben island; that would prove tricky too. a few years ago there was a plan to build some kind of resort on the island. the commercial development of the island was viewed as irreverant and insulting when the island held such significance in the history of the country and this memory is still very fresh in the minds of many of those who run the country.

robben island is a world heritage site and also a south african heritage. i dont think there is much wrong with the way the island operates today and if there is any development of the island it should be broadly accessible to the south african public and not a celebration of exclusivity and priveledge such as casinos and golf courses.
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Old August 25th, 2010, 10:47 AM   #12
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@mo, im opposed to man made islands from a personal taste point of view especially in the case of cape town which is arguably the most naturally beautiful city in the world. my opinion is very subjective.

i dont know too much about man mad islands and i read only the objectives on the plug site. i don't see how this development can actually address those objectives. there are real social/developmental, environmental and economic concerns.

as for 'development' of robben island; that would prove tricky too. a few years ago there was a plan to build some kind of resort on the island. the commercial development of the island was viewed as irreverant and insulting when the island held such significance in the history of the country and this memory is still very fresh in the minds of many of those who run the country.

robben island is a world heritage site and also a south african heritage. i dont think there is much wrong with the way the island operates today and if there is any development of the island it should be broadly accessible to the south african public and not a celebration of exclusivity and priveledge such as casinos and golf courses.
So you would rather risk the island losing its heritage status?
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Old August 25th, 2010, 11:07 AM   #13
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i didnt know that such a risk existed. not being sarcastic, this is an honest question. is there reason to believe that the world heritage site status can be repealed and if so on what grounds?
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Why not do this in False Bay instead and connect the western side to Fish Hoek and the eastern side to Strand with two massive railway bridges. Or better still, an underwater tunnel.
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these megalomic projects will never go through, the investment and risks are too high, and I certainly don't support them.
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Old August 26th, 2010, 04:19 PM   #16
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Robben Island is too far from land.. the only access is through boats.. difficult to develop for residential use and commute everyday into the city. Building a bridge or tunnel from Robben island to Cape Town will cost billions of rand. The city of Cape Town will never approve that. The only option is to build a bridge to Blouberg area. That will be too far to commute into the city. hmm... tough on.. they should make the island in false bay :p
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I think they should develop Robben Island aswell, whats the point having such a huge piece of sand lying there if only a 3rd of it is being used?
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Why not do this in False Bay instead and connect the western side to Fish Hoek and the eastern side to Strand with two massive railway bridges. Or better still, an underwater tunnel.
yes. those coastal metropoli are in need of some relief.
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Old September 17th, 2010, 07:40 AM   #19
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Peace Island

I think the people who are critical of the Peace Island for Cape Town should carefully consider all the aspects to this project.

What I know about the project is that it will enhance the environment, preserve the cultural heritage and be socially and economically beneficially not only to the people of Cape Town but also to South Africa as a whole.

Can some one please tell me why the Peace Island must not be built.

Lets do a bit of a contest: I think I can defend the building of the island in Cape Town.

All the critics out there. Throw your best shot at me...environmental, cultural, etc......
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Old September 17th, 2010, 08:05 AM   #20
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Peace Island

Give me facts, not opinion, personal points of view or sentimentality.

I am particularly interested in sparring with greenies who can't substantiate their views and who feel they are the sole custodians of what is good for us. The other species I am keen to engage are the cultural heritage crowds (few) who want to dictate what is culture.

As for the argument that the building of the Peace Island will threaten the world heritage status of Robben Island and Table Mountain - Says who????: I am not so sure about this. I did not see any people who proclaimed Robben Island and Table Mountain as World Heritage sites, having a problem with the Peace Island.

Where is John Yeld....thought there would be something from him...and his disciples.

The newspaper columnist with environmentalist friends....where are they.......

My other favourite is the "Human Polar Bear's views on the Island. I think he must just keep swimming...not worry about the island - what does he know....

My point is. Give me the facts. I will not spar with the phantoms of a few who want to project "their" views on the many.Their personal journeys must remain just that...personal. Let the people who want to make a difference get on with it.

When last did Africa have a man-made icon to be proud of - that stirred the "hearts of men"? Thousands of years ago when they built the pyramids.

Any foreign contenters....?
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