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Old February 9th, 2012, 01:23 PM   #721
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Who said so? I know lots of relatives and close friends whom go to Asia regularly. There is a reason why we have embassies there also it will open the tourism industry from Asia so there are plenty of reasons of having such route.
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New CEO at EgyptAir!

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Almost a year after a public revolution, the national carrier revealed it had hit the biggest losses ever. Amirah Ibrahim interviewed the new boss of the state-owned carrier over the challenges and threats to the carrier and his cloudy mission


The latest cabinet reshuffle made the ex-chairman of the national carrier Hussein Massoud the aviation minister while his deputy, captain Hossam Kamal, has been assigned the post of chairman of EgyptAir.

The fact that Kamal is the second official who comes from the airlines to take the office should make his mission more comforting when it comes to handling his colleagues demands. Over the past year, and following the 25 January revolution, civil aviation activities have witnessed much turbulence. Employees demanded a replacement of all leading managers who possessed a military history. Dozens of ex-military officers joined the national carrier and Egyptian airports over the past decade.

However the national carrier had always had a boss appointed by the owners the government, from outside the company. The first newcomer to take the post was Captain Tawfiq Asia, a senior pilot who rose through management and took the office in mid 2008 but only held it for 15 months. He was replaced by his deputy Massoud in 2009, who also had a military history.

Yet, Kamal, 49, is the youngest to take this post ever. He joined the airline 29 years ago and gained high experience as a pilot flying the wide body B777 and A340. "Being the deputy for the past two years helped me to bring better vision of management," explained Kamal. "When considering the current situation and consequences of the political crisis on our business, I can see three challenges that push our priorities. The financial problems, low cost competition and human resources," he added.

Last week, the carrier revealed it had hit $300 million losses over the past year, due to the unrest and the collapse of air travel through the country. "This is almost 12 per cent of the company's assets estimated at LE16 billion. We have adopted a number of procedures to reduce the losses following the serious drop of traffic starting in February. Thanks to those procedures, losses could have been higher to hit LE2.25 billion."

Kamal indicated that the main bulk of the airline's business concentrates in the air transport activities. "Almost LE11 billion of our assets focus on the fleet operated by our two passengers airlines, the international airline and the domestic airline. Both have been suffering badly due to the current political situation. The load factor dropped seriously from 75 per cent before January 25 last year to 54 per cent and at some points we went down to 46 per cent. We had to ground 80 per cent of the fleet in February and later 65 per cent of the fleet. Meanwhile, we continued taking delivery of the new fleet of A330 and B777 and B737. We could not stop taking the delivery if we wanted to, and thus we had even more planes on the ground, less load factor than ever and our overhead costs remain the same."

The airline took delivery of four out of five A330 during 2011 and only postponed taking last one to 2014. "Due to the troubled financial position of Egyptian economy, the European Union fund asked us for the first time ever to secure a governmental guarantee to approve allowing the European manufacturer Airbus to deliver the new fleet. This reflects the critical situation we have been going through," Kamal added. EgyptAir will take delivery of more two B737-800 by mid 2012, and yet is uncertain whether they will ask for a similar governmental guarantee for the next batch of aircrafts.

To stand in the face of a fierce competition by low cost carriers, Kamal has to think of new tactics, but would not dare to ask the government for protective procedures. "The whole country faces a disastrous situation but as an airline we cannot ask for exceptional measures. The low cost airlines want to operate from Cairo International where authorities only allow regular airlines to operate. We have to start thinking to open new markets and attract different customers. Low cost airlines dominate the business from regional airports and we should compete with similar tools."

Kamal revealed intentions to develop a new partnership with a low cost carrier to seize part of such a growing market. "We have started with a plan to improve and develop the human resource sector so as to enable different branches to perform as required with less risks. For years, we maintained the work frame the same as a government-affiliated institution whereas the national carrier's administration changed when the airline converted from an institution into a holding company, almost ten years ago. We need to completely convert all our administration to follow the new pattern. This will help improve performance and expand positive opportunities to stand the competition."

Kamal indicated that the airline needed to reform the international network but should have been cautious with closing services under the current pressure and then regret them as happened before. "Eight years ago, we hired an American consultant to help promote our international network. We ended with shutting down 14 routes. But soon we discovered that we had been misguided as our competitors jumped to dominate the markets we had withdrawn from. We should have developed our own tools to help analyse our data and make calculations the right way. This is a simple example of how human resources could be of a great use to the administration," Kamal explained.

The procedures applied to controlling the losses, however, didn't include dismissing employees or cut salaries, even though the airline has more than 33,000 in its employment. "We can not follow this pattern though it us familiar in the air transport business. It is something related to social responsibility And as an economic body possessed by the government, dismissing thousands of workers could create a bigger problem to the community," Kamal concluded.

The Arab spring pushed many airlines in the Middle East out if the market, as Kuwait's national carrier Wataniya airways and the Saudi low cost carrier Samaa airlines filed bankruptcy during the second half of 2011. In Egypt almost 10 private airlines had to suspend operation and shut down.

"Some neighboring governments pumped hundreds of million dollars to help their national airlines survive the crisis even though they did not witness any political unrest or violence. But the air transport industry is so fragile that a limited violent attack at a point can turn traffic upside down at another point. Regarding the very slight margin of profits which does not exceed 3 per cent, we can see how all airlines are operating almost by the edge," Kamal explained.

Kamal indicated that the only support his company obtained from the government was the guarantee letter to the EU to take delivery of the airbus fleet.

The management does favour a shrinking of "unrelated" activities which have proved to cause the carrier more losses. EgyptAir group consists of a holding company and acts as the mother company which supervises ten affiliated companies: three airlines for international, domestic and cargo, three offering technical, in-flight and ground services, and four operating activities slightly related to air transport. Tourism, hospital and complementary industries are examples of loss-making companies while duty free shops are a profit making one.

Kamal insisted the company still had a good chance to revive a profitable tourism business. "We possess all needed requirements to operate a successful travel and holiday making business' The fleet brings tourist traffic and will flourish again soon, and we have a strong international and domestic network. We can reach thousands of destinations through the Star Alliance network. All we need is to introduce new positive marketing and travel tactics into our tourism. I am optimistic about the potential for our tourism in the near future," Kamal concluded.
Source: Al-Ahram

I wish him the best. I hope he could bring EgpytAir to a better level. Egyptair's soft product (ground & in-flight service, Frequent flyer program etc.) is the biggest problem at EgyptAir. Their hard product (fleet, seat quality etc.) is quite good but I wished Egyptair did a better job on the maintenance though. I hope EgyptAir will be a privatized company in the future!


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The national carrier is resuming operation to Japan after a suspension of flights for a year. Amirah Ibrahim looks into the carrier plans to balance despite heavy losses


The national carrier EgyptAir has revealed plans to resume operation to Japan after a year of stopping flights to the land of the rising sun. According to Ayman Nasr, chairman of the international airlines, the carrier suspended its flights to Japan due to the travel ban imposed by the Japanese government to its citizens for fear of the unrest that followed the 25 January revolution.

"The Japanese market is one of our vital markets in the Far East," commented Nasr. "We have been working closely with Japanese travel agents, the Tourism Ministry and Egyptian tourism companies to resume the operation as quick as we could."

According to Nasr, the airline will resume the Tokyo route on 15 April, operating two flights weekly on Sundays and Tuesdays. The airline will operate its new B777-300 which seats 346 passengers on the Japanese route.

"We are keen to provide our best services and ensure a luxurious trip to our clients in Japan. Operating the new B777-300 will meet high satisfaction of such a long route travelers," Nasr added.

In May, the airlines along with Japanese travel agents are set to celebrate the 50th anniversary of serving the Japanese market. Governments of Japan and Egypt signed a bilateral air travel agreement on 10 May 1962. Ever since, the national carrier has been serving Japan with indirect flights later developed in direct flights to more than one point in Japan. The airlines used to operate a daily to Tokyo, and a daily flight to Osaka but a year ago it had to shrink the operation and then suspend it.

Official figures by Egyptian tourism authority show that Japanese tourists exceeded the figure of ten millions in 2010.

Nasr explained that the airline was highly concerned to ensure an economic visibility to operate the route. "With the help of our partners in the Japanese market, we managed to achieve high load factors that keep risks to the minimum, particularly in the light of losses we have hit over the past year."

The carrier has released a financial report for the fiscal year 2010/2011 which showed the whole losses for the group exceeding LE2 billion. The airline's share of losses exceeded 70 per cent of the group. The carrier consists of ten affiliated companies serving air travel business and others. Three airlines; one for international routes, one for domestic and the third for cargo, represents the core business of the state owned carrier. Technical support and maintenance, ground services, inflight services, represent the core of investing business while the company makes profits out of selling services to non sister airlines .

The airline achieved a surplus of LE82.3 million. This is less than the financial planning for fiscal year 2010/2011 by LE268.4 million.

The General Assembly of EgyptAir held its annual meeting to discuss the financial report with Aviation Minister Hussein Massoud, airline chairman captain Hossam Kamal, representatives from the Central Accounting Authority and airline board members.

"We are talking about 76.5 per cent decrease of our targeted record," commented Kamal. "This is also a decrease by LE259.2 million comparing to the year before which is 75.9 per cent lesser than last year's surplus," he added.

Kamal indicated the tough circumstances that affected the carrier's business among all Egyptian economy components. "We suffered a drop of traffic due to a drastic deterioration of air travel through the country. In addition, oil prices kept swinging over past year adding to our losses as it represents 31 per cent of the total loss."

Kamal reviewed the investment projects of the mother group, consisting of the holding company and affiliated companies. Out of accredited LE3560.1 million for the projects during 2010/2011, the group spent LE2921.7 million which is 82.1 per cent of the plan.

Kamal also reviewed a report showing the development of wages and labour between 2006/2007 and 2010/2011, indicating an increase by 125 per cent. "In 2010/2011 wages exceeded LE2,028 million comparing to LE1,002 million in 2006/2007."

In his turn, Massoud expressed optimism that the financial situation would improve in the near future due to a series of procedures adopted to stop the bleeding of losses.
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An Egyptian airline revealed its plans to operate regular flights on domestic routes. Amirah Ibrahim reports

Smart takes its new Bombardier

Smart Aviation, an airlines specialised in operating private jets, will soon release operational flights among domestic and regional airports. This means that Egyptian travellers will soon have an additional option when they travel within the country.

The national carrier now dominates the domestic network of air transport movement between Egyptian cities.

Last week, Smart Aviation airlines took delivery of its first Bombardier Dash8-Q400 which seats 74 passengers. The aircraft is one of five contracted and set to be delivered by 2013.

According to Wael El-Madawy, airline chairman, a second aircraft was delivered early this week.

Cairo to Sharm El-Sheikh, Hurghada and even Alexandria."

The airline plans to open separate marketing offices, on-line booking and even work with a separate IT system.

Established in 2007, Smart Aviation started business as a private jet operator which operates a fleet of 3 Cessna jets each seating 10 passengers. In 2009, the airlines launched an air ambulance business boosting the fleet with two more Cessna airplanes equipped with an intensive care unit.

As for competing with the national carrier EgyptAir, El-Madawy insisted that his airline is growing to cooperate, not to struggle in the market. "We are able to compete with modernised aircraft that provide comfortable fly time for those with less to afford. We are optimistic to cut prices by 30 per cent comparing to the main player EgyptAir."

However, it is worth noticing that Smart Aviation airlines is owned by a group of shareholders including the National Investment Bank (30 per cent), Cvil Aviation Fund (40 per cent), the national carrier (10 per cent), the Airport Company (10 per cent), the Airline Holding Company (five per cent), and the Air Navigation Company (five per cent).

Egypt ," El-Madawy added.

EgyptAir Chairman Hussein Massoud said that the new airline can be a great help if it targets the destinations that the national carrier still cannot cover.

The national carrier operates a domestic airline Express, whose chairman Helmi Rizq expressed the belief that the new airline would affect the business of his airline, but he added, "not to a serious extent".

Rezq insisted that passengers who prefer to fly with jet aircraft would not like a turbo-prop engine. "We can also compete strongly with our selling system, high frequencies of flights over the day, online portal and an extended network of service offices across Egypt."

In any case, it is healthy to see how competing airlines will affect Egyptian travelers and whether this competition will better satisfy their needs.
Source: Al-Ahram

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Old February 19th, 2012, 12:56 AM   #726
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It's a publicly owned now right? though the gov hold some/most of it's shares.
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I don't know actually but I think EgyptAir is still in hands of the gov.

Some new and interesting Egyptian airport projects here: http://www.ecgsa.com/aviation

Most of it is not worth making a thread but still nice to see like Marsa Alam airport and terminal expansion, New VIP terminal at Cairo Airport and a study for jetbridges (I think that's what the mean with "emergency routes" lol ) at Cairo terminal 1. I really wonder what the new "International Airport" is. Location and Client are confidential but the design is very much the same style of many new Egyptian airport terminals so I'm guessing it has to be in Egypt.

There is much more Egyptian aviation news now than a few months ago... I think I'm gonna start posting updates at my Egyptian Aviation blog again.
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 07:46 PM   #728
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Hi Guys,

Just found this forum. Cool! Does anyone know what is happening to Egyptair's new A330-300's? Every time I pass through the airport I see them parked up with engine covers on - and they never move! They've been parked since their delivery in November and December last year. It doesn't really bode well if MS can't find any routes to use them on profitably and would rather have them sitting doing nothing. I'm beginning to wonder if these great aircraft will ever fly with MS or if they are going to end up being leased out.

Anyone have any info?
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I'm not sure about their latest news but after the revolution last year they said that they would lease some of their fleet. not sure if the A330 is one of these planes they're leasing. Hopefuly when Egypt become stable, Egyptair will use them in future routes.

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Thanks for the welcome.

Hmm, yes I heard that last year, but in the end they didn't lease anything out and Cairo Airport just became a huge parking lot for MS's fleet during most of 2011! lol!

Hmm, well we'll see what happens. Hopefully they will use these new A330s on some routes.
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Oh, and by the way - I wanted to share this website for anyone that hasn't seen it. I just discovered it a few months ago:

www.flightdiary.net

It's a really nice site for keeping a record of all the flights you've flown and has some really nice graphics and statistics about your flights.
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They got rid of 14 routes because some idiot told them to? Retards...
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Old February 24th, 2012, 11:41 AM   #733
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Smart Aviation....hmm...apparently "Seven Stars Service" yet I can't even get their website to work. All I get is a blue screen and some dire 'elevator music'... Shame, as much as I like the E170's, I'd like to try their new Dash 8's on some domestic routes for a change.
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Gulf Air Set to start A321 service to Cairo from 1st June

Some news:

With the imminent arrival of 6 new aircraft Gulf Air will be using an A321 on one of it's Cairo frequencies:

Bahrain – Cairo eff 01JUN12 GF071/072 Day x3

The Airbus A321 aircraft, features 8 Business Class and 161 Economy Class Seats, will be equipped with Personal TV on all class of service.

Sounds good!
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EGYPTAIR S12 Operation Changes as of 09MAR12

As reported on Airlineroute.net:


"As per 09MAR12 GDS timetable and inventory display, initial changes to EGYPTAIR’s Summer 2012 operation as follows.

Note the Star Alliance member’s operation for Summer 2012 season is similar to Summer 2010, as the airline was forced to reduce service on a number of markets due to lower demand in 2011.

Additional changes remain possible:

Cairo – Accra Planned gradual service increase from 4 weekly to 6 weekly is cancelled
Cairo – Aleppo Planned increase from 5 to 6 weekly is cancelled
Cairo – Athens Planned increase from Daily to 10 weekly is cancelled
Cairo – Bahrain Planned increase from 6 weekly (Day x2) to Daily from 05JUN12 is cancelled
Cairo – Beirut eff 30MAY12 Increases from 16 to 19 weekly (Previously planned 20)
MS711/712 Daily
MS709/710 Planned Increase from 5 to 6 weekly from 04JUN12 is shelved
MS713/714 eff 30MAY12 Increases from 4 weekly (Day x257) to Daily

Cairo – Budapest Planned increase from 5 weekly (Day x14) to Daily is cancelled
Cairo – Dar es Salaam Boeing 737-800 to continue 4 weekly operation, replacing planned A320
Cairo – Entebbe eff 01JUN12 Increases from 4 weekly to 5 weekly (Day x35; previously planned 6 weekly)
Cairo – Frankfurt eff 23MAY12 Boeing 737-800 replaces Airbus A330-200 (23MAY12 – 31MAY12 737-800 operates Day x267)
Cairo – Johannesburg eff 01JUN12 Increases from 5 weekly (Day x12) to Daily (Previously planned to begin from 25MAR12)
Cairo – Kano eff 05JUN12 Increases from 5 weekly to 6 weekly (Previously planned to increase to Daily)
Cairo – Paris CDG Increases from Daily to 11 weekly (Previous plan was to increase to 10 weekly only)
MS799 CAI0935 – 1425CDG 333 D
MS803 CAI1615 – 2100CDG 320 x123

MS800 CDG1545 – 2020CAI 333 D
MS804 CDG2245 – 0315+1CAI 320 x123

Cairo – Sana’a Increases from 5 to 6 weekly (Previous plan was to increase to 8 weekly)
Cairo – Vienna Planned increase from 5 weekly (Day x13) to Daily from 01JUN12 is cancelled".

Mmm, I think it is pretty depressing reading - no new or resumed routes and more reductions in service than increases. I am really beginning to wonder what is going to happen to the long haul fleet. Yesterday I passed through the airport and I noticed that, along with the 3 new A330-300's, all of MS's four 777-200's are also parked up with engine covers on (one near Terminal 3 and the rest over at Terminal 1). They seem to be relying on just the 777-300's and the A340's for the few remaining long haul routes. Anyone have any info on their fleet/route plans?
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that's not great but it relates very well with the reduction of tourism we're hearing in the news. So in the spring we're not expecting much maybe in the summer season thing will improve especially after the country start to stabilise
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that's not great but it relates very well with the reduction of tourism we're hearing in the news. So in the spring we're not expecting much maybe in the summer season thing will improve especially after the country start to stabilise

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Etihad increasing service to Cairo

Some welcome news from Etihad:

"ETIHAD starting 02JUN12 is increasing Abu Dhabi – Cairo service, where it’ll increase from 14 to 18 weekly, close to the Dec 2010 level when it operated 21 weekly services.

The new flight operates with Airbus A320 aircraft. On other flights, Airbus A330-200 aircraft will also be operating on this route. Schedule:

EY651 AUH0055 – 0245CAI 320 x357
EY653 AUH1005 – 1155CAI EQV D
EY655 AUH1345 – 1535CAI 320 D

EY650 CAI0330 – 0910AUH 320 x357
EY654 CAI1320 – 1900AUH EQV D
EY656 CAI1645 – 2225AUH 320 D"

Good stuff to see a quality airline increasing frequencies!
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15% off at on Egyptair.com today 21/03/12

Hi,

Just noticed that Egyptair is offering 15% off all bookings made online today to celebrate Mother's Day in Egypt.

To get the reduced prices you need to select the "Egypt" country version of the website in the top right corner of the homepage. Anyone can use that version regardless of where you live.

There are some good offers to be had like Cairo to Bangkok return in business class for £800 - it's a bargain!
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SWISS S12 Cairo Service Reductions



SWISS in Summer 2012 season is reducing operation on Zurich – Cairo service, where it’ll operate between 4 to 5 weekly flights. Operational schedules and planned reduction period as follows:

25MAR12 – 23APR12 Daily
24APR12 – 12JUL12 Day x246
13JUL12 – 17JUL12 Day x234
18JUL12 – 14SEP12 Day x24
15SEP12 – 24OCT12 Day x246

LX236 ZRH0945 – 1340CAI 343
LX237 CAI1505 – 1910ZRH 343
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