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Old July 31st, 2013, 12:32 AM   #41
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Torej dam nekoliko modificiran blaszsev predlog na "glasovanje":

== Projekti, gradnje in razvoj / Projects, construction and development

-> Arhitektura in urbanizem / Architecture and urbanism
(sem spada gradnja stanovanj , poslovnih stavb, trgovskih centrov, športnih objektov ...)

-> Promet in infrastruktura / Traffic and infrastructure
(sem spada gradnja cest, železnic, plinovodov, predorov, pristanišč ...)

-> Gospodarstvo in družba / Economy and society
(sem spadajo novice o gospodarstvu, turizmu, vojski, znanosti, tehnologiji ...)

== Fotografija, videoposnetki in ostalo / Photography, videos and other

-> Foto Slovenija / Photography of Slovenia

-> Foto Svet / Photography of the World

-> Gostilna / Inn
(vse debatne zadeve)

Predlogi se sprejemajo do začetka naslednjega tedna, v torek pa se dokončno sprejme nova struktura. Predlagam, da se ne gremo pretiranega drobljenja, kvečjemu diskusija o imenih ter kaj kam spada (mogoče bi športne objekte prestavili recimo v Gospodarstvo in družba).
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Old July 31st, 2013, 02:21 AM   #42
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Nice. I can only say that I personally like the proposal to use professional terms Visoke gradnje and Nizke gradnje.
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Old July 31st, 2013, 09:44 AM   #43
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Športni projekti bi morali biti samostojni. Vse večje gradnje, oziroma pomembnejše, če se lahko temu tako izrazim, imajo svoje podteme, kot je Planica, Stožice ipd. Za druge športne objekte pa tako kot je že obstoječa tema, razen, če se kdo ne odloči, pa res detaljno ne slika napredka objekta. Recimo, če bi se gradil oziroma obnavljal Bežigrad, bi zagotovo bilo dovolj materiala in zanimanja za lastno podtemo. Kakor tudi dogodki bi morali imeti svojo podtemo, kot je recimo ta Eurobasket.
Pa tema se naj ne imenuje samo Stadioni in arene, ker za razliko od večine sveta imamo mi tudi skakalnice, biatlon proge, tekaške proge, smučarske proge, veslanje, kajak/kanu etc etc.

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Old July 31st, 2013, 12:42 PM   #44
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Športni objekti ne rabijo biti samostojni, bodimo realni... Se strinjam s kebrovim predlogom.
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Old July 31st, 2013, 12:59 PM   #45
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Nice. I can only say that I personally like the proposal to use professional terms Visoke gradnje and Nizke gradnje.
Those are not professional terms because they are not used in construction anymore. They are sometimes used by ordinary people, mostly older.

Problem is also that public squares, parks, underground parking houses, bridges etc. which are quite common in our "/CITY/ Projects and construction" threads wouldn't fit into Visoke gradnje. Visoke gradnje are strictly buildings, urbanisation is however wider term for towns and cities.
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Old July 31st, 2013, 01:26 PM   #46
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So what terms are used in construction in Slovenia these days instead of the good old Visoke gradnje and Nizke gradnje?
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Old July 31st, 2013, 02:41 PM   #47
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They are still the same just not used very often used but I was referring to contents.
Term Visoke gradnje does not include public squares, parks, underground parking houses, bridges etc. - dividing city and region threads because of that would lead to confusion. Other country threads don't have such division in their subforums.

EDIT: actual names are Stavbe and Inženirski objekti - official from standard classification.

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Old July 31st, 2013, 02:47 PM   #48
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Športni objekti ne rabijo biti samostojni, bodimo realni... Se strinjam s kebrovim predlogom.
Šport je ena redkih stvari, preko katere Slovenci v svet pošiljamo pozitiven signal v svet. Slovenija je glede na število prebivalcih, DRUGA najuspešnejša država na svetu po dosežkih, če pa gledamo samo ženske, pa samo VODILNA športna država na svetu.

Po drugi strani, pa bi imelo gospodarstvo in družba lastno temo? Čemu sploh? Zaradi vseh zadev, ki se dogajajo v Sloveniji in to ne ravno dobrih stvari? Nenazadnje je to tema, ki sploh nima veze z INFRASTRUKTURO, kar je nenazadnje namen tega foruma. Če že, potem to vse spada pod kavarno, oziroma razno, kakorkoli že.

Nenazadnje je že osnovna oblika mednarodna tega foruma sestavljena tako, d ima posamezne nebotičnike, arhitekturo in stadion ter arene. Niso nikamor skrili stadione ter arene pod arhitekturo.

Športni objekti spadajo med primaren namen tega foruma in to je arhitektura.
Gospodarstvo, celo vojska in znanost zagotovo ne. In zaradi kopiranja nekih člankov iz drugih portalov si zasluži lastno temo, medtem pa športni objekti ne, kjer ljudje iz forum hodijo po gradbiščih in slikajo? Da ne govorim, da več ljudi zanima kako bo s Planico, kot pa z gradnjo Špara v Zg. Dupleku (katerega bodo mimogrede gradili) ali pa neke poslovne stavbe v Novi Gorici in bi to bilo vse nametano skupaj.

Kar se pa tiče visokih in nizkih gradenj, pa te obstajajo, nenazadnje se morajo podjetja registrirati, ali so za visoke ali nizke gradnje. Prav tako ne vem, čemu moramo slediti drugim sekcijam ostalih držav, kako imajo narejeno. Saj nismo naša politika, da moramo delati tako kot drugi rečejo, ali?

Prav tako je to tema s predlogi, da ne bo prišlo do kakšnega nesporazuma. Nenzadnje smo forum mi vsi, ne samo en posameznik. Če pa se temu posamezniku zdi, da bo naredil tako kot njemu paše, potem je brezveze, da sploh obstaja ta tema, kot neka navidezna demokracija.
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They are still the same just not used very often used but I was referring to contents.
Term Visoke gradnje does not include public squares, parks, underground parking houses, bridges etc. - dividing city and region threads because of that would lead to confusion. Other country threads don't have such division in their subforums.
Bridges are surely not in visoke gradnje either way. Anyway, all I am saying is that in other forums, "Architecture and urbanism" are rarely used for projects and construction updates, more for the discussion about architecture and urbanism. But I will edit my draft request for admin according to your proposal.

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Old July 31st, 2013, 04:21 PM   #50
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Na celem forumu imamo tri aktivne teme o športnih objektih, pri čemer se ena nanaša na večnamenski objekt, katerega športni del je končan in se bo več ali manj poročalo o nakupovalnem središču in zunanji ureditvi, če bo sploh prišlo do nadaljevanja gradnje.

Ne oporekam funkciji športa v slovenski ali katerikoli družbi, ampak slovenski del foruma je že tako malo aktiven, da ga ne rabimo še po nepotrebnem drobit samo zaradi pomembnosti teme, če o tej temi ni dovolj govora. In se strinjam, da Gospodarstvo in družba tudi niso potrebni, jih lahko združimo s kavarno ali pa kako drugače vključimo v forum.
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Old July 31st, 2013, 04:35 PM   #51
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Športne objekte bi tudi jaz ločil v svoje, če ne bi imeli težave, da imamo vsega skupaj 5 tem glede športa, od tega bo ena ugasnila čez 2 meseca (po Eurobasketu), Stožice pa že dolgo mirujejo, le občasno se opisujejo posamezni dogodki, o gradnji pa ni govora. Pač nismo Italija.
Lahko pa jih združimo v gospodarstvo in družbo, da se ne izgubljajo med stolpnicami, kar bi bilo tudi logično (šport je družbena dejavnost), če pa nastane potreba, se dodatno loči.

Prvi podforum pa potem poimenujemo Mestni in pokrajinski projekti.

Kar se ostalega tiče, je pa tako: mnenja si lahko izmenjamo takšna in drugačna, upoštevamo dobre predloge, vendar na koncu se bo treba odločiti le za eno varianto, čeprav gotovo ne bo vsem prav.
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OK then I guess I can open that request for restructuring then
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Old August 1st, 2013, 04:53 AM   #53
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Tema Eurobasket je, kar se mene tiče, popolnoma odveč. Komot bi se tisto, kar se tiče dvoran, pisalo v temo stadioni in arene, ostalo (karte ipd.) pa v gostilno.
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Old August 5th, 2013, 02:08 AM   #54
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Hi Keber,

My name is terick and Im the moderator of Puerto Rico. I would like to ask for permission to open a photographic thread about Puerto Rico in the Photothčque Forum of Slovenia.


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Old August 6th, 2013, 02:58 PM   #55
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Yes you may do that, please put it into Foto Svet subforum.
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Čestitam na novoj organizaciji foruma
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Old August 6th, 2013, 06:27 PM   #57
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No končno uspelo modificirati. Kar všečno. Sploh mi je všeč izraz arhitektura in urbanizem je zame bolj mehak oz. splošen saj zajame tudi splošno debato o urejanju prostora ne le dotično izvajanih projektov.
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Old August 8th, 2013, 02:20 AM   #58
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Thanks Keber,

How you say "Welcome to Puerto Rico" in Slovene?
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No končno uspelo modificirati. Kar všečno. Sploh mi je všeč izraz arhitektura in urbanizem je zame bolj mehak oz. splošen saj zajame tudi splošno debato o urejanju prostora ne le dotično izvajanih projektov.
Je pa res, da zdaj deluje kot, da bomo samo renderje lepili.Urbanizem in arhitektura no ja ok.

Treba bo poštimati še napako, ker ko odpreš promet ali recimo gospodarstvo se povsod prikaže, da si pravzaprav med projeti in gradnje.
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