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Old April 29th, 2014, 10:26 AM   #241
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Most Kierbedzia - Kierbedz Bridge

Some new images have surfaced of pre-war Warsaw today, and three of them are high quality photos taken by a pre-war tourist from Netherlands of the Kierbedz bridge.

Constructed 1859-1864

The bridge was built at the initiative of the Society of Russian Railways. The first plan was that this bridge would serve railway purposes connecting the St. Petersburg Station (now Vilnius station) with the Dworec Wiedenski (Vienna-station) in Warsaw. However the idea was abandoned due to the fact that it was an unpopular choice to lead a railway directly next to the old town, and the bridge was completed only as a road (with lanes for trams).

Btw: A new railway bridge was built a few years later, north to the Kierbedz bridge, next to the Warsaw Citadel (the bridge at the Citadel, today Most Gdanski, Gdansk bridge).

History behind the bridge
Although the Kierbedz Bridge was the first permanent bridge to be constructed since the time of Sigismund Augustus, and the construction of a permanent bridge was passed way back to the Four-Year Sejm (1788-1792), the local press did not mention the construction and progress of the work.

The reason behind this was due to the fact that bridge was finished in 1864, the same year, which the January uprising (powstanie styczniowe) was crushed by the russians and that the main designer was Stanisław Kierbedź - A Pole with a high degree in the Russian military as a general.

Until WWI the bridge bore the name of Alexander bridge (named after Tsar Alexander II). Commonly, however, the bridge was called Kierbedz bridge (from the name of the designer and builder). After Poland regained its independence and the reconstruction (change of the design of the central part of the bridge) after the russian demolition of the bridge during their retreat in 1915 the bridge was officially renamed to Most Kierbedzia (Kierbedz bridge).

The bridge was again destroyed (together with all the other bridges in Warsaw) during the Warsaw Uprising on Sept. 13, 1944 by the German army retreating to the left bank of the Vistula River in front of the Red Army.



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Old April 29th, 2014, 10:32 AM   #242
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Some other previously unpublished images of pre-war Warsaw in high quality

Crossing point of the Marszalkowska street and the Jerusalem Avenue (Aleje Jerozolimskie)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.n...64916676_o.jpg

Napoleon square in the central financial district of pre-war Warsaw

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...75244920_n.jpg

The Saxon Palace as seen from the Hotel Europejski (European hotel, currently undergoing renovation and upgrade to a five star hotel

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/...56901400_n.jpg

Teatr Wielki - the national opera

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...17640691_n.jpg
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Old May 23rd, 2014, 01:34 PM   #243
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Nalewki street - main street in the Jewish borough, Muranow (1930s)


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A lost world

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Old May 27th, 2014, 02:31 PM   #244
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The last set was really interesting, it's such a lost world.
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Warsaw ghetto in the summer 1941




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Old November 16th, 2014, 12:55 PM   #247
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Some videoes of pre-war Warsaw

Sunday in Pre-war Warsaw (Churches, restaurants, city parks, Zoological garden, boat trips on the Vistula, Theme-parks with Rollercoaster and Warsaw nightlife)


A guide to Pre-war Warsaw in videos and images


Warsaw in the Belle-Epoque
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Old November 16th, 2014, 04:05 PM   #248
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wow, I don't think I've seen the last one before. thanks
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Old entrance of st. John basilica:
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...technically speaking St. John Cathedral ("basilica") is not basilica but a hall church
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Thanks a lot for this thread. I was in Warszawa 1 month ago and the city was quite strange for me: nice old buildings mixed with modern. You can still find the signs of the beautiful interwar city. After viewing this thread all it's clear for me

My eyes also noticed some piece of Tsarist architecture as University if I'm right but I'm not sure if all the buildings I supposed to be Tsarist are indeed Tsarist, but the baroque Tsarist unrevealed them.

Could someone please do a list with most noticeable Tsarist buildings from today's Warszawa? Please
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Could someone please do a list with most noticeable Tsarist buildings from today's Warszawa? Please
During Russian rule in Congress Poland, a few buildings were "renovated" in the Russian style and given new purpose. Of note are Staszic Palace on Krakowskie Przedmiescie became a Russian gymnasium and the Garrison Church in Nowe Miasto became a Russian Orthodox place of worship. Both were rebuilt in their "non-Russian" state after World War II.

Staszic Palace
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I mean Russian buildings built from the beginning. University maybe?


Warszaw for me is a weird city . I don't know why, but even Krasiński Palace, which is a piece of Polish baroque it's somehow similar with eastern baroque, with Russian one.

Don't get me wrong. I love Warszaw. It's so different than our Austro-Hungarian cities with Habsburg baroque and I want to know exctly how much the Tsarist Empire influenced Warszaw. I want more details I saw that some buildings are more similar with the ones from Minsk for instance, and another ones like in Germany. But I want to know exactly what was the the Tsarist influence in Warszaw architecture

Even Carmelite Church that have nothing to do with Tsarist, have a kind of Tsarist influence during Peter the Great. I mean the columns seems to be "rigged out" similar to Russian baroque.

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Well, most of Mazovia and eastern Poland was ruled by the Russian Empire. It's only logical that some of that would be reflected in the architecture of that area. However, classic baroque buildings in Warsaw certainly do not look like Russian baroque or the Russo-Byzantine style.

My own personal take on many of the buildings in Warsaw is that they are restrained and somewhat modest, owning in part to their post-war restoration. Neo-classical buildings tend to dominate, and while there are certainly some similarities between those in Warsaw and those further west in Paris and east / north in St. Petersburg and/or Moscow, overall, there is more similarity with the west rather than the east.
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The most noticeable Tsarist building is Cytadela Aleksandrowska, that's the whole point. Hidden and obscure. Has no impact on city whatsoever, mostly used by the army. It will change, because museums are being moved to the area and hopefully the Cytadela will be integrated with the city proper.

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I'd point out two existing Orthodox churches, both quite distinguishing. Some official buildings maybe, although not many of them were built in Warsaw in late 19th century: 5th Tsarist Male School (today Architecture Dept. of Warsaw University of Technology) or former Veterinary Institute at Grochw.
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Panska street? Old Muranow images?

Hello friends,
This is an old thread but I am hoping Oslo2022 and others with an interest in pre-war Jewish history and images can help me. I am researching the books printed by a book and record-shop owner, Itzik Zhelonek (Zielonek). His store was at Panska 85, "across from the flea market and diagonally across from the stores selling old iron" (I thought that might be used hardware). He printed his books at a drukeray (printing house) at Zamenhofa 44. His sometime partner, a singer and actor named Pinkhes Sapir (who may or may not have been the Pinchas Sapir who left Poland and became a politician in Israel) lived at Frantsishkamer 8. Also mentioned in his books: Stavke gas and Nay Volove. One of his songs mentions a clothing store, Boymvol, at Karmelitska 20. I hope to find a map of pre-war Warsaw with these places, and if there are any images from these places I would be so happy! Can anyone help me? You may also contact me directly. Thanks, Jane Peppler

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