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Old November 19th, 2014, 10:43 PM   #821
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I shared one-bedrooms for years. They were my leases and I paid maybe 55% to have the bedroom. It's not ideal but it's a decent option if you're young and want a great location.

(Better yet, live in a city that makes micros easier, i.e. actually cares about low-income people vs. saying they do.)
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Old November 19th, 2014, 10:56 PM   #822
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That was said with a note of incredulity, considering how relatively high a take home i think that i have. I am saying that Seattle has an amazingly high average income.


It depends on what you're comparing it to. Large dense cities are productivity machines, and generally have much higher average incomes than smaller cities and towns.

That said, even among large cities we do pretty well. Here's data from 2011:



You also have to factor in the price of housing. If most of your workers can't afford to live in the city they work in, your median income looks nice and high. But that's the median income of the people that can afford to live there.
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Old November 20th, 2014, 04:39 AM   #823
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For years I lived in "non-profit housing". This basically meant they were run by non-profit organizations who qualified for tax exempt, Washington state backed bonds which they then used to construct, purchase, or rehab rental apartments. There were occasionally wait lists for some buildings, but that was based more on location and popularity of a particular property, not because of a shortage of units (like Seattle Housing Authority).

For one person, your gross income for the year needed to be in the mid- to low-thirties. Adding a second person not related was usually not allowed. You had to re-certify your income every year, but you weren't pushed out if you began to make more than the qualification maximum. The theory was you would move if/when you could afford to.

There were probably 30-40 buildings to choose from in downtown Seattle (PSQ to QA, waterfront to Cap Hill). I lived in a 10-story 1914 brick and terra cotta building with views of Freeway Park (and the sounds of Freeway freeway!). Decent size studio with separate kitchen and bath, and a huge walk-in closet that once contained a Murphy bed. My max rent (3 years ago) was $695.

Although there were some retirees in the building, it was mostly what I would call "workforce housing". (Students weren't allowed.) I was a waiter when I first moved in, then an event space sales rep, then a tour guide. My neighbors worked as barbers, insurance admin people, cooks, and hotel clerks. None of us had cars...there was only 6 parking spaces for about 150 units.
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Old November 29th, 2014, 11:45 PM   #824
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Did we see this before, I don't remember and can't find it - the Public Benefit page #3 Oct 16. That's the session where they sort of approved everything, street level anyway, with conditions. The ground floor got me excited. THREE restaurants, a café and a bar. Can't find an escalator, tons of elevators. Hotel dork in me can't wait to see the rest of it.
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http://seattle.gov/dpd/cityplanning/...l/p2203633.pdf
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Old November 30th, 2014, 12:33 AM   #825
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Did we see this before, I don't remember and can't find it - the Public Benefit page #3 Oct 16. That's the session where they sort of approved everything, street level anyway, with conditions. The ground floor got me excited. THREE restaurants, a café and a bar. Can't find an escalator, tons of elevators. Hotel dork in me can't wait to see the rest of it.
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On page 37 the flag next to the US flag looks very similar to a Marriott hotel flag.
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Old November 30th, 2014, 01:49 AM   #826
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I'm like 95% sure the flag says 'Eloise', suggesting it's An image splice from the flags at the plaza hotel.
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On page 37 the flag next to the US flag looks very similar to a Marriott hotel flag.
A popular break room theory when I worked at the Renaissance was that it would be a Marriott Grand Marquis. Hedreen has had franchise agreements in Seattle with Marriott, Hilton and Hyatt. Hyatt has two four-star hotels in the neighborhood already (Olive 8, Elliott Grand), Hilton has none. Marriott currently has two four-stars in Seattle: the Waterfront Marriott which is quite an uphill climb to the Convention Center, and the Renaissance which is about to become the Cosmopolitan of the hotel world by offering views of the backside of Madison Centre.

Marriott needs a four-star property to keep its Marriott Rewards Platinum guests happy. These are the folks Marriott does not want to lose; they spend over a hundred nights a year within the various Marriott brands.

Of course, this doesn't mean Marriott will get the franchise, but they will certainly bid for it intensely.
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Old November 30th, 2014, 06:31 AM   #828
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The Madison Centre (pronounced century in Murica?) is set back from the corner, and I'd guess without reading the DR handout that pretty much the whole southwest face gets direct sunlight, while many rooms will keep their water views.
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