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Old August 12th, 2006, 07:54 PM   #1
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TIANJIN | Projects & Construction

There are two main CBDs in Tianjin. One is located in Tianjin city properly, the other one is going to be built at Binhai New Area, next to the coast.


Twin Towers recently approved in Tianjin CBD, 420m


Tianjin World Trade Center, 300m, 80f. This supertall has been on hold for 8 years. It was resummed some months ago.




Binhai New Area location


Binhai New Area masterplan 25 x 25km


The huge peninsula will be occupied by port facilities. It will cover around 30km2




New CBD at the riverside









Binhai Fortune Center, 40f


Binhai Zhejiang Building, 160m, 42f


Promenade Residential Towers



More projects, I'm not sure if they are proposed for Binhai New Area or Tianjin city CBD.

Eastern New Century Square, proposed. Around 90f and 450m


Recently approved project, 350m


Abundant Building, 378m


Another


International Steel Center, 58f


Tianjin Sports Center, almost finished









More info about Binhai New Area:
http://www.economist.com/world/asia/...ory_id=7088663
http://www.cityweekend.com.cn/en/bei...g-of-the-north
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Old August 12th, 2006, 07:57 PM   #2
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Those last three pics are insane.
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Old August 12th, 2006, 07:57 PM   #3
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I think Tianjin will probably amaze us in the near future.This city has been over shadowed by Beijing for too long time.
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Old August 12th, 2006, 08:19 PM   #4
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tianjin will be the new economic centrel of northern china in the future.
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Old August 12th, 2006, 10:57 PM   #5
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you should join emporis and put some of the new buildings in some of the chinese cities in there because there are some huge buildings that aren't in their listing
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Old August 12th, 2006, 11:12 PM   #6
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Is that the plan? To be the Shanghai of the north, and to decentralize it from Beijing? I didn't realise it was so close to Beijing!
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Old August 12th, 2006, 11:16 PM   #7
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Old August 12th, 2006, 11:56 PM   #8
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you should join emporis and put some of the new buildings in some of the chinese cities in there because there are some huge buildings that aren't in their listing

Hmm, sorry, I'll need a long answer to explain the problem between China and Emporis...

In Emporis I think that the editors must provide the exact addresses of the buildings they add and a link or a picture which proves that the name of the buildings, height and number of floors, etc are real. It is almost impossible to do so with most Chinese buildings unless you understand Chinese (and browse Chinese pages) or you live in China.

In addition to this, Emporis editors are especially skeptical about Chinese buildings due to chauvinist attitudes. Most western editors don't accept seeing so many Chinese cities they couldn't even locate on a map ranking over many western world class cities, so they use to boycott any editor who added many Chinese buildings. I think they haven't any regular editor from China Mainland, have they? In fact, last year they banned a Chinese editor who added about 800 Chinese buildings in three months...

Despite of the deep undercoverage of all Chinese cities you will find at the Emporis ranking that Shenyang or Chengdu are over Rotterdam and Milan, Tianjin or Macau over Brisbane and Detroit, Nanjing over Boston, Dalian over Seattle, Xiamen over Paris and Philadelphia, Wuhan over Miami, Chongqing over Los Angeles, Shanghai over Toronto and so on. All these cities have added less than 1% of their buildings over 12 floors! If some editors added just all Chinese building over 25 floors there would be more than 40 Chinese cities at the top 100. They wont allow this to happen

I'm sure many Emporis editors would bash me if they ever read this, but this is totally ture. I have a friend who is editor at Emporis and I have given him information to add about 500 Chinese buildings, btw. He didn't add more than 100-200 though. Some of them were over 40 floors and they were finished for years when I made him to add them. I asked him to add the Guangzhou Twin Towers too, I had a serious argue with him before he added them, same story about Jialing Fanying. Moreover, I made him posting at the inner forum of Emporis about many towers over 150m which are currently u/c in Shanghai, some of them almost finished, but they didn't add them. They are not interested in keeping China remotely updated at all

Anyway, counting every Chinese building over 12 floors is just impossible. It would be easier counting how many grains of sand are in some beach
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Old August 13th, 2006, 12:56 AM   #9
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A very dedicated editor is what's needed I think. At the moment the only Chinese city that's well covered is Hong Kong, I mean 772 buildings for Shanghai? WTF?
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Old August 13th, 2006, 02:14 AM   #10
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Hmm, sorry, I'll need a long answer to explain the problem between China and Emporis...

In Emporis I think that the editors must provide the exact addresses of the buildings they add and a link or a picture which proves that the name of the buildings, height and number of floors, etc are real. It is almost impossible to do so with most Chinese buildings unless you understand Chinese (and browse Chinese pages) or you live in China.

In addition to this, Emporis editors are especially skeptical about Chinese buildings due to chauvinist attitudes. Most western editors don't accept seeing so many Chinese cities they couldn't even locate on a map ranking over many western world class cities, so they use to boycott any editor who added many Chinese buildings. I think they haven't any regular editor from China Mainland, have they? In fact, last year they banned a Chinese editor who added about 800 Chinese buildings in three months...

Despite of the deep undercoverage of all Chinese cities you will find at the Emporis ranking that Shenyang or Chengdu are over Rotterdam and Milan, Tianjin or Macau over Brisbane and Detroit, Nanjing over Boston, Dalian over Seattle, Xiamen over Paris and Philadelphia, Wuhan over Miami, Chongqing over Los Angeles, Shanghai over Toronto and so on. All these cities have added less than 1% of their buildings over 12 floors! If some editors added just all Chinese building over 25 floors there would be more than 40 Chinese cities at the top 100. They wont allow this to happen

I'm sure many Emporis editors would bash me if they ever read this, but this is totally ture. I have a friend who is editor at Emporis and I have given him information to add about 500 Chinese buildings, btw. He didn't add more than 100-200 though. Some of them were over 40 floors and they were finished for years when I made him to add them. I asked him to add the Guangzhou Twin Towers too, I had a serious argue with him before he added them, same story about Jialing Fanying. Moreover, I made him posting at the inner forum of Emporis about many towers over 150m which are currently u/c in Shanghai, some of them almost finished, but they didn't add them. They are not interested in keeping China remotely updated at all

Anyway, counting every Chinese building over 12 floors is just impossible. It would be easier counting how many grains of sand are in some beach
That is sad. Did not know the people at Emporis were like that.
I really don't like the way Emporis "does" there listing anyway. Ever since they changed from "skyscrapers.com to Emporis, they have really done a terrible job updating accurately all the projects going on in smallers cities in the USA much less, obviously, in China.
Maybe it's time for another website to be born that accurately lists every project over 12 floors or whatever. I would just like to know the truth concerning what city is doing what. No politics please.

BTW, I wonder how many units will be in this cluster of high-rises? Does anyone know?
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Old August 13th, 2006, 02:25 AM   #11
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3,200 units
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Old August 13th, 2006, 02:30 AM   #12
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Awesome! Thanks!
That means at least double that amount of people living there, I would guess.
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Old August 13th, 2006, 05:24 AM   #13
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In addition to this, Emporis editors are especially skeptical about Chinese buildings due to chauvinist attitudes. Most western editors don't accept seeing so many Chinese cities they couldn't even locate on a map ranking over many western world class cities, so they use to boycott any editor who added many Chinese buildings.
yea why would they do that? i mean they added 2000 buildings to Istanbul but only 800 to Shanghai. It is very insulting. Why is there so much anti-China sentiment? worst of all, they made Hong Kong number one! all Shanghainese relatives of mine who traveled to Hong Kong commented that Hong Kong isnt even an eighth of the size Shanghai is... albeit its density is waaaay higher.
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Wow. How far is Tianjin from Beijing? It looks like it is close enough, can they merged in the future?
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Old August 13th, 2006, 01:41 PM   #15
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i was one of the emporis editor before and responsible for adding all the buildings in mainland china, macau, that was about a year ago i think. All together i think i've add about 2000 buildings for china only (they still keep those buildings on emporis site) and their senior editors warned me not to add buildings in mainland china anymore coz im not living in mainland china and because of that, all the information i add are not accurate and its not truth, but i did provide them where i got those buildings info from (websites, pics and even telephone number/address of the building developers) but unfortuantely they dont believe me, so i quit at the end.

i just dont understand why they still want to keep the stuff i added before and on the other hand, they told me not to add buildings on their website
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Old August 13th, 2006, 02:40 PM   #16
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Great looking buildings, I especially like the WTC building design
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Old August 13th, 2006, 09:10 PM   #18
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the new designs coming out of China are breathtaking
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Emporis is so bogus!!! How can there possibly be 772 buildings for Shanghai! Some photos of Shanghai and you can see skyscrapers to the horizon!!! OH WOW Shanghai has now 851 buildings Hong Kong has 7,880. Shanghai has a larger population than Hong Kong

According to Emporis, Beijing has more buildings in the database than Shanghai
Even cities like Dandong not represented on Emporis, better to use SSP for the amount and height of buildings

How many buildings are really in Shanghai according to the Emporis rules??? Probably as many as Hong Kong??


Isn't Emporis from Germany???


This is friggin awesome!!!!

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I do like "Stacking Cubes" too.
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