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Old November 1st, 2010, 12:57 PM   #1
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Whitehaven Harbour Redevelopment | Whitehaven | 4fl | Approved

The Whitehaven News ran a story about the £10m redevelopment of the Whitehaven waterfront to replace Mark House offices and The Park nighclub based in a former sandstone swimming baths. Developers Magnus Homes has held a competition (with 139 entrants from all over the world) to design the scheme. These have been narrowed down to 5 designs which will be displayed between Nov 6-12 with public views invited.







Here is a brief description of the 5 schemes from the Whitehaven News (who did not list the architects responsible for each design)

Scheme 4:
demolition of old swimming baths, cluster of appartments in seperate buildingsof different heights with ground floor office accomodation

Scheme 20:
Retains baths, extends sandstone as plinth with appartments above

Scheme 66:
Retains baths as entrance to offices. Covered walkway on strand street

Scheme 69:
Retains baths, roof level rises towards Pears House at one end. Also has a walkway onto strand street

Scheme 77:
Retains baths and uses similar 'sandstone coloured material'. Offices on strand street with walkway.


Original press release 14/07/2010:

Designs sought for £10m harbour plan
By Alan Cleaver
http://www.whitehaven-news.co.uk/new...th=home/2.2837

A COMPETITION has been launched to design a £10million luxury apartment and office development on the site of Mark House and the former Park nightclub in Whitehaven.
The Mark House part of the siteBritain’s Energy Coast West Cumbria and Magnus Homes has launched the International Open Design competition for the sensitive harbourside site.




The competition is being organised by the Royal Institute of British Architects with the support of Places Matter!, the architecture centre for the Northwest. A RIBA spokesman said: “The winning scheme for luxury residential apartments and office accommodation will need to set a benchmark for creative, contextual design and achieve a sustainable development of long-lasting architectural quality.” Sherrie Robinson, project manager for Britain’s Energy Coast West Cumbria, said: “Whitehaven is a Georgian gem which boasts superb architecture and unique character. The development of the town and harbourside is a key element of the Britain’s Energy Coast regeneration initiative, and we will be looking for designs that demonstrate the town’s ambitions for the future while at the same time being sympathetic to its rich heritage.”

The submissions will be put on display and themes arising from the exhibition will be made available to the judging panel, which will consist of representatives from Energy Coast West Cumbria, Copeland Council, Magnus Homes, RIBA, Places Matter! and the Harbour Commissioners. Teams are being asked to design a mixed-use development of luxury apartments and offices. The competition is open internationally to architect-led design teams, as well as architectural students.

Further details from www.riba-whitehavencentralsite.org.uk
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Old November 1st, 2010, 05:53 PM   #2
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An interesting development.

It says, in the reports you published, that there will be an 'exhibition' of the five chosen designs, in a few days time . . . unless I have misread it.

But, I can't find if it says where that will be?

Also, I have 'enhanced' the photos a bit, to get a better idea of the designs . . .





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The designs will be on display at Pears house, which is adjacent to the site. That building was also developed by Magnus homes and is quite frankly shocking (You can see one corner of it on the last image). It doesn't bode well for the future of the waterfront when the developer has such a poor track record.

Whitehaven was almost untouched by post war modernist town planning and has extremely well preserved Georgian architecture with a grid street pattern.
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Whitehaven was almost untouched by post war modernist town planning and has extremely well preserved Georgian architecture with a grid street pattern.
The mentioned streets are shown in this photo . . .



The above photo comes from the excellent "Visit Cumbria" Website, here : http://www.visitcumbria.com/wc/whitehaven.htm

There are a LOT more great photos of Whitehaven, at the above LINK.

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The mentioned streets are shown in this photo . . .



The above photo comes from the excellent "Visit Cumbria" Website, here : http://www.visitcumbria.com/wc/whitehaven.htm

There are a LOT more great photos of Whitehaven, at the above LINK.

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I saw a TV program about a year or so ago, ---regarding the Street grid system in Whitehaven, ---and I think they compared it with New Yorks,--or it could have been the Americans copied it, --not sure, --but interesting, --it's been a few years since we have been their, --looks canny.

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The designs will be on display at Pears house, which is adjacent to the site. That building was also developed by Magnus homes and is quite frankly shocking (You can see one corner of it on the last image). It doesn't bode well for the future of the waterfront when the developer has such a poor track record.

Whitehaven was almost untouched by post war modernist town planning and has extremely well preserved Georgian architecture with a grid street pattern.

The public viewing ended yesterday, did anyone on here go, or know someone who did?

I just wondered what the designs looked like.
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Got a new job back in the north east, so I just missed it. It's worth posting this photo of Pears house, which is the other housing development by magnus homes on the whitehaven waterfront. In this case, I'm quite happy to call myself a nimby. It's just hideous and dominates the area in the worst possible way

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Pears House, that is where the public viewing was held, wasn't it?

I agree with your opinion of Pears House, by the way. Quite a bit out of character, apart from anything else!

When do you think the results of the chosen design might be announced?
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The designs were displayed in one of the vacant retail spaces at the far end. Not sure when the decision date is due.

The building next door to Pears house (to the left of the photo) was an earlier regeneration attempt, replacing an old hopper/silo building, and is of considerably better quality! Shame that magnus homes went to the "how can we get as much money as possible out of this site?" school of architecture for pears house. Again, there's been no attempt to leave a good legacy and I don't have high hope for the new development.
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Whitehaven Harbour Competition Winner
8 Nov 2010


e-architect report that Edinburgh-based Richard Murphy Architects has won this design contest against 139 entries around the world

Whitehaven Harbour design by Richard Murphy Architects:







Richard Murphy said: "We are, of course, delighted to be able to play our part in developing this important site and assisting with the rejuvenation of the centre of Whitehaven.

Our design placed great emphasis on celebrating the site, giving all the flats panoramic views of the harbour, making a distinctive skyline and incorporating the surviving fragment of a historic swimming pool into the design."

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Who would have thought it? The cheapest looking design has 'won' the public vote! Magnus must be so pleased because reducing construction costs will enable them to maximise profits. Who cares that one of the few towns in Britain that escaped the 1960's town planners unscathed is being ruined by shoddy architecture?
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Who would have thought it? The cheapest looking design has 'won' the public vote! Magnus must be so pleased because reducing construction costs will enable them to maximise profits. Who cares that one of the few towns in Britain that escaped the 1960's town planners unscathed is being ruined by shoddy architecture?


Yes, it looks like the well preserved harbour appearance will be changing for the worse.

Has full planning permission been granted for this specific design yet though?
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As this project now seems likely to proceed, I have changed the thread title to the standard SSC (Project Thread) Format.

Any news on planning?
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No application has been submitted yet, as far as I'm aware. So it's still at the 'pre-planning' stage of the development process.
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Another great aerial shot of the harbour. Here's hoping its identity can still be preserved . . .



Photo courtesy of "Visit Cumbria" - http://www.visitcumbria.com/wc/whitehaven-harbour.htm

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This is an interesting website, about the "Whitehaven Central Harbour Site International Open Design Competition" . . .

http://www.riba-whitehavencentralsit...uk/winner.html
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"The Judging Panel felt that the scheme would add an appropriate contemporary layer to the town's fabric, with its fragmented form generating a rhythm in tune with the urban grain, massing of existing harbour-side developments and would sit comfortably opposite Pears House"





No application appears to have been submitted, but I will oppose it when they do.
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It looks like no planning application has yet been made for this project?

This Project Thread has now been added to the North East England Communal Area Development Summary, at Project 01.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1419366
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Amazing - having literally 'just' posted the previous post about there being 'no news' about planning permission, I now read this . . .


Whitehaven harbour flats set to get planning go ahead
By Alan Irving, News & Star, Thursday 6th October 2011


Plans to bring high-rise living to Whitehaven harbour look set to go-ahead despite some opposition. Planning officers are recommending proposals for a mixed £10 million redevelopment which will bring 43 flats and 4,000 sq m of commercial space to the waterfront.

The scheme will mean demolishing Mark House, the empty former DHSS building on Strand Street. The development area embraces the Mark House, Strand Street and Park nightclub block. The only structures due to be retained are the perimeter wall and the tower/cupola of the original Victorian bath house.

The modern design was the winning entry in an international competition run last year by the Royal Institute of British Architects. There will be parking space for 75 cars for use by office workers and residents of the flats, which will be accessed off Millennium Way on the harbour front. The retained part of the old baths is to be used as a retail/cafe unit using the original entrance off Duke Street.

Copeland Council’s Planning Panel will be recommended to give the go-ahead to the proposals, at its meeting on October 12th.


Read More - http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/wh...errerPath=news
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If I'd known an application had been submitted, I would have objected in the strongest possible terms! The last time I was down there would've been June and there was no planning notice evident. Looks like it's been sneaked through on the sly, without much hope of an appeal. The best hope is that either Magnus homes goes bankrupt, or there isn't enough demand. Unfortunately it's often the cheap and nasty proposals that actually go ahead.

It's not the scale of shape of the buildings that I oppose, but the quality of construction. White rendering is completely inappropriate for the location. A far better choice would be sandstone, which is a material with local relevance (large sandstone cliffs at St.Bees head). It's perfectly clear from Pears House, that Mangus could not care less about Whitehaven and are only interested in making as much money as possible.
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