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Old May 16th, 2014, 07:13 AM   #21
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Remember that if you buy on the train having passed an open ticket office or working machine, you'll not be able to take advantage of special fares or railcard discounts too!

Enjoy the trip - it's got some great views this time of year.


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Old May 17th, 2014, 03:47 AM   #22
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Thanks. Planning on going to Cumbria Pride, but I probably won't decide till the week before.
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Old December 28th, 2014, 06:16 PM   #23
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What are the chances of getting some of the 158s onto our lines like Newcastle-Carlisle or West Cumbria line? They seem like a class above the other local trains and at least have air conditioning.
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Old December 28th, 2014, 06:35 PM   #24
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What are the chances of getting some of the 158s onto our lines like Newcastle-Carlisle or West Cumbria line? They seem like a class above the other local trains and at least have air conditioning.
They'd make sense on the limited stop services and also the Newcastle- Whitehaven service, which can be unpleasant in hot weather. Just please ditch the Pacers, they're only suitable for lines like Looe- Liskeard.
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Old December 29th, 2014, 01:43 AM   #25
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Not bad units at all, and they've been known to work Newcastle-Carlisle in the past. They're good for 90mph though, and this might be more useful elsewhere.
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Old December 29th, 2014, 10:27 AM   #26
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Just please ditch the Pacers, they're only suitable for lines like Looe- Liskeard.
Yes, although it's those single carriage trains that bother me the most. They're way too small for the West Cumbria line. They've tried to cram in far too many seats, meaning there is no legroom for anyone above 5 foot 10 (I'm 6,2). The worst incident was on an August bank holiday when a train-full of youngsters who'd come back from Leeds festival crowded on at Lancaster with their bags. The thing was packed straight away and picked up more as it went to Barrow. In the end there simply wasn't enough room for anyone else to get on, including a number of elderly walkers.
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Old December 29th, 2014, 04:11 PM   #27
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What are the chances of getting some of the 158s onto our lines like Newcastle-Carlisle or West Cumbria line? They seem like a class above the other local trains and at least have air conditioning.


Not in the near future. Rumour is that the TPE electrification is being delayed due to lack of funds (overspend on Great Western and Midland Main Line works) and Northern MAY lose 158s to TPE as TPE are losing the 170s next May to Chiltern.
Liverpool to Manchester electrfication only frees up extra 142s,150s, 156s however they'll probably just be kept in the Northern Rail "heartland" with a couple used on the new Manchester to Burnley service
I think the earliest chance of seeing 158s in service the North East is if Northern take on the Scotrail 170s in Decemeber 2017 when they get replaced with HSTs.

158s arent really suited for Cumbrian Coast in current form, less space for bikes compared to a 156, Conductor cant see right down the train to see if anyone wants off the train at the request stops. 158 Air Con reliability isnt great. I think the 156s are actually best unit for these trains
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Old December 29th, 2014, 05:09 PM   #28
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Not in the near future. Rumour is that the TPE electrification is being delayed due to lack of funds (overspend on Great Western and Midland Main Line works) and Northern MAY lose 158s to TPE as TPE are losing the 170s next May to Chiltern.
Liverpool to Manchester electrfication only frees up extra 142s,150s, 156s however they'll probably just be kept in the Northern Rail "heartland" with a couple used on the new Manchester to Burnley service
I think the earliest chance of seeing 158s in service the North East is if Northern take on the Scotrail 170s in Decemeber 2017 when they get replaced with HSTs.

158s arent really suited for Cumbrian Coast in current form, less space for bikes compared to a 156, Conductor cant see right down the train to see if anyone wants off the train at the request stops. 158 Air Con reliability isnt great. I think the 156s are actually best unit for these trains

My understanding is that there will be further Class 170 units available from Scotrail, check out this brochure which was published in October 2014 with the anouncement of Abellio Scotrail http://www.transportscotland.gov.uk/...ber%202014.pdf

it clearly states that 'Hugely popular high speed trains replacing class 170 trains between cities, with improved comfort, reliability journey times and catering'

From what I understand is that Scotrail are aiming for 27 train sets for HST, so that could potentially free 27 Scotrail class 170 trains, the press release from Southern Railway states it's a total of 12 class 170 carriages and as most of the Scotrail fleet is 3 car class 170's, this could mean there are a number of surplus class 170's still up for grabs though this isn;t likely until 2018! That said, it would be a better move to replace the 2 car class 170's with the 3 car variant for TPE Southern Services.
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Yes, although it's those single carriage trains that bother me the most. They're way too small for the West Cumbria line. They've tried to cram in far too many seats, meaning there is no legroom for anyone above 5 foot 10 (I'm 6,2). The worst incident was on an August bank holiday when a train-full of youngsters who'd come back from Leeds festival crowded on at Lancaster with their bags. The thing was packed straight away and picked up more as it went to Barrow. In the end there simply wasn't enough room for anyone else to get on, including a number of elderly walkers.
I know the ones, they're commonly used on off peak services, but don't seem to venture to the North East.
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Old January 9th, 2015, 08:31 PM   #30
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The Cumbrian coast line is to be served by loco hauled sets due to the redistribution of DMUs within the Northern franchise. I believe these are class 37 locos with mk 2 coaches which should increase capacity. Not sure how long this will be for but likely until current electrification schemes are complete and use 319s releasing DMUs .
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Old January 11th, 2015, 12:17 AM   #31
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Loco-hauled services will return to the Cumbrian Coast on weekdays from May. Richard Tuplin

Direct Rail Services has confirmed that it is to support Northern Rail in the operation of timetabled services on the Cumbrian Coast, while providing an increase in capacity across the North.

Discussions with Northern Rail and the Department for Transport have centred around the provision of two newly refurbished locomotive-hauled Mk2 sets operating on the Cumbrian Coast on a Monday to Friday basis.

Although the exact train formation and choice of locomotive for the service is still to be confirmed, with the diagrams due to commence in May.
http://railwayherald.com/uknews/loco...cumbrian-coast
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Old February 1st, 2015, 06:19 PM   #32
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What is a pressing problem is the serious congestion in Copeland and Allerdale. The A597 through Harrington can grind to a halt if there are roadworks, parked cars and slow moving buses cause congestion and the A595 Whitehaven Loop Rd and Hensingham by pass are jammed for part of the day by Sellafield traffic.
What the area needs, and this will be made more pressing by expansion at Sellafield is a relief road for Whitehaven, a by pass for Salterbeck and Harrington, dualling of the A66 between Bridgefoot and Cockermouth and a by pass for Bigrigg.
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Old February 27th, 2015, 10:29 AM   #33
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This from the News & Star,--

Government promises railways boost for Cumbria


Last updated at 07:51, Friday, 27 February 2015


Rail passengers in Cumbria have been promised more seats, more services and new trains under franchise plans announced by the Government.

Outlined by Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg and Transport Secretary Patrick McLoughlin, the improvement plans for across northern England cover the Northern and TransPennine franchises which will be re-let next year.

In Cumbria, the franchises cover the coastal line between Carlisle and Barrow, the Tyne Valley line between Carlisle and Newcastle, Carlisle-Settle services and links between the county and Manchester Airport.

There are increasing demands for improvements to railway services and the trains that use them across Cumbria, with today's announcement eagerly anticipated.

Read more http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/go...bria-1.1195368
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Old February 28th, 2015, 10:45 AM   #34
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This from the News & Star,----

Changes proposed for junctions on main road in west Cumbria


Last updated at 09:55, Friday, 27 February 2015


Changes could be on the cards for two junctions on the A595.

Alterations are proposed for junctions at Lowca and Parton Brow, with residents set to be asked their views.

Under the Lowca proposals, a ‘no right turn’ restriction would be imposed on those driving from the village on to the A595. Those bound for Whitehaven must turn left and go around the Howgate roundabout and double back on themselves.

Read more http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/ch...bria-1.1195401
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Old March 3rd, 2015, 11:42 AM   #35
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This from the News & Star,--

Sunday train service between two Cumbrian towns to return


By Julian Whittle

Last updated at 13:52, Monday, 02 March 2015


Sunday trains between Whitehaven and Barrow are to return for the first time since the 1970s.



A Sunday service will be reinstated from December 2017 as part of the new Northern Rail franchise, to begin next year.

At present there are four trains on Sunday on the Carlisle-Whitehaven stretch of the Cumbrian Coast line but nothing south of Whitehaven.

Transport Secretary Patrick McLoughlin has also promised extra weekday trains to cater for increased activity at Sellafield.

Elsewhere, there will be an extra late afternoon train from Leeds to Carlisle by December 2019, returning from Carlisle in the evening.

This plugs a gap in the current timetable, which has no departures from Leeds between 2.49pm and 6.06pm.

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Old March 9th, 2015, 12:02 PM   #36
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This from the News & Star,--

Repairs to start on roads across Carlisle


Last updated at 08:57, Monday, 09 March 2015


A series of roadworks that will affect key routes throughout Carlisle are due to start today.
All works will be carried out overnight between 7pm and 6am in order to minimise disruption to motorists.

The first route which will be worked on is a stretch of Wigton Road, between Ullswater Road and Crummock Street. Work to replace the existing surface will take place between today and Wednesday and will be aided by temporary traffic lights.

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Changes proposed for junctions on main road in west Cumbria


Last updated at 09:55, Friday, 27 February 2015


Changes could be on the cards for two junctions on the A595.

Alterations are proposed for junctions at Lowca and Parton Brow, with residents set to be asked their views.

Under the Lowca proposals, a ‘no right turn’ restriction would be imposed on those driving from the village on to the A595. Those bound for Whitehaven must turn left and go around the Howgate roundabout and double back on themselves.

Read more http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/ch...bria-1.1195401
Good, using this road every day I have seen several near misses when people have been turning right. Also the introduction of traffic lights at Mirehouse Lane should reduce accidents.
Yet these are only minor improvements and won't remove the terrible congestion on the A595 between Parton and Sellafield. With plans for a new nuclear power station at Sellafield, the following are needed in the west of the county, two of which have been proposed since the nineties:
A66, dualling from the Papcastle roundabout to the Bridgefoot roundabout.
A595, Whitehaven relief road, starting at Parton, skirting around Hensingham and ending at the Westlakes Science Park. Bigrigg by pass linking with Whitehaven relief road.
A597, South Workington relief road, starting at Asda roundabout in Salterbeck and ending near West Cumbria College.
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Old March 26th, 2015, 03:10 PM   #38
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This from the News & Star,--

Cash boost for roads in Eden district

The roads in one Cumbrian district have been earmarked for improvement after a county council local committee agreed to nearly £5m of investment.

Among the planned improvements in Eden are preventative maintenance activities such as surface treatments and drainage works.

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Old April 17th, 2015, 11:05 AM   #39
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This from the News & Star,--

Weeks of roadworks due on A66

By Emily Parsons

Last updated at 08:23, Friday, 17 April 2015

Roadworks are set to begin on the A66 at Stainmore to try and reduce incidents of flooding.

The Highways England scheme will see the drainage renewed on the eastbound carriageway, beyond Stainmore Cafe, from Monday.

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This from the News & Star,--

Airport road delays could last up to 18 months

By Jenny Brown

Last updated at 14:00, Friday, 17 April 2015

Long delays hitting motorists between Brampton and Carlisle could last for up to 18 months.



Major roadworks are currently being carried out on the A689 as part of the multi-million pound redevelopment of Carlisle Airport, at Irthington near Brampton.

The Stobart Group, which is resurfacing the runway for its £12m distribution centre, has funded a new road scheme as part of planning consent for the development.

Cumbria County Council has given the developer permission to install a roundabout and carry out the associated roadworks, as well as imposing an order that restricts vehicles to 10mph and 30mph.

These temporary speed limits will apply to a 575m section of the road, near to the junction with the C1013 to Irthington.

The council confirmed that the roundabout will form a new junction solely for access to the distribution centre.

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