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Old March 1st, 2016, 07:41 PM   #1
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NORTHUMBRIA - Should the name Northumbria be the Offical Name of the region?

Should the name Northumbria be the official Name of the region

The term North East England is a very simple political term for the region.

For the North East regional assembly to of have over 50% support it needs go with the grain of history. Most of the public are not interested in politics or local government. It was seen on average as purely political, nothing to do with them.

People have to feel part of something. If years before the referendum vote it had been put to the people as the modern Northumbria with its own flag, seen and heard every where they go, the outcome would of been allot different.

It got to have that emotional, spiritual connections or its going to be seen as purely political.
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Old March 1st, 2016, 09:01 PM   #2
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Should the name Northumbria be the official Name of the region
No, because it would be easily confused with the former Kingdom of Northumbria, which is different.
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Old March 1st, 2016, 10:14 PM   #3
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No, because it would be easily confused with the former Kingdom of Northumbria, which is different.
I think the spirit of Northumbria always exist. Just its never been supported politically.

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It would possibly work for the northern parts of the region but I doubt those in Sunderland and Teeside would be happy with it as Northumbria is associated with Newcastle, especially with Northumbria university being located in the city.

There is little need for a name change, the North East is pretty much known well.
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Old March 2nd, 2016, 12:11 PM   #5
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It would possibly work for the northern parts of the region but I doubt those in Sunderland and Teeside would be happy with it as Northumbria is associated with Newcastle, especially with Northumbria university being located in the city.

There is little need for a name change, the North East is pretty much known well.
It shouldn't be much of a problem. It would be accepted very quickly. The Name is already been used in many organisations. Such as the police force and environmental agencies. why?

The term Northumbria is our ancient grassroots name. Even though its not the legal official name.

The term North East England given to the region by pen pushers in London who primarily think about politics. Its a completely wrong approach. This is in my view why there is a North/South divide. The region lack spirit.

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I totally disagree durham and Sunderland associate themselves with County Durham not Northumbria, Take it from me it would never be accepted in these areas!
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It shouldn't be much of a problem. It would be accepted very quickly. The Name is already been used in many organisations. Such as the police force and environmental agencies. why?

The term Northumbria is our ancient grassroots name. Even though its not the legal official name.

The term North East England given to the region by pen pushers in London who primarily think about politics. Its a completely wrong approach. This is in my view why there is a North/South divide. The region lack spirit.
Durham would be a much better name....it evokes the land of prince bishops. All northumbria is remembered for is surrendering to Danes
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Old March 11th, 2016, 04:56 PM   #9
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Durham would be a much better name....it evokes the land of prince bishops. All northumbria is remembered for is surrendering to Danes

Northumbria was not surrendered to the Danes. But they did captured a large part of the territory, which we now call Yorkshire. Northumberland and county Durham was an earldom of Northumbria in the 1100s which William the conqueror ended.
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Yes and we should be our own country again, it's the only way to move forward.
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Old April 21st, 2016, 11:22 AM   #11
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Yes lets reclaim the name Northumbria for our region and while we are about it bring back the Lindisfarne Gospels home permanently.
I like the name Northumbria so much I named my own little blog with the Northumbrian name.

Northumbrian Images Blogspot..
http://northumbrianimages.blogspot.co.uk/
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Yes lets reclaim the name Northumbria for our region and while we are about it bring back the Lindisfarne Gospels home permanently. I like the name Northumbria so much I named my own little blog with the Northumbrian name. Northumbrian Images Blogspot.. http://northumbrianimages.blogspot.co.uk/
Northumbria (meaning 'north of the Humber') was the name given to the Anglo-Saxon kingdom (one of the 7 in England during the Heptarchy) formed from the amalgamation of the earlier smaller two AS kingdoms of Bernica (NE) and Deira (most of Yorks, but not British Elmet). The borders of Northumbria grew and shrunk again over time, at one point including Lothian in Scotland for example) but it was never just the 'North East'.
The southern boundary seems to have persisted until near the Norman Conquest and was along the Rivers Sheaf, Meers Brook and Limb (all meaning 'boundary' in the south of modern day Sheffield (I.e well south of the Humber estuary actually, because it followed the Humber tributary system southwestwards). This long standing border persisted to become the Yorks / Derbys border.
Northumbria also stretched over to the west coast as far down as the Ribble or possibly Mersey.

Early in Northumbrian history the old Bernica part was in command, but later the capital was established in York and Deira firmly took the upper hand. As others say that Deira part of Northumbria then became part of a Viking Kingdom of Jorvik.

Point is 'Northumbria' is a term highjacked in modern times for Northumberland with Durham and sometimes Teesside, but as an historical term it's just as much, if not more, about Yorks than the NE.
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Old June 7th, 2016, 03:28 PM   #13
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Should the name Northumbria be the official Name of the region

The term North East England is a very simple political term for the region.

For the North East regional assembly to of have over 50% support it needs go with the grain of history. Most of the public are not interested in politics or local government. It was seen on average as purely political, nothing to do with them.

People have to feel part of something. If years before the referendum vote it had been put to the people as the modern Northumbria with its own flag, seen and heard every where they go, the outcome would of been allot different.

It got to have that emotional, spiritual connections or its going to be seen as purely political.
Found this out on Wikipedia:

"The later (and smaller) earldom came about when the southern part of Northumbria (ex-Deira) was lost to the Danelaw. The northern part (ex-Bernicia) at first retained its status as a kingdom but when it became subordinate to the Danish kingdom, it had its powers curtailed to that of an earldom and retained that status when England was reunited by the Wessex-led reconquest of the Danelaw. The earldom was bounded by the River Tees in the south and the River Tweed in the north (broadly similar to the modern North East England)".

Therefore, Northumbria is an extremely apt name for the region if we are referring to the earldom and not the kingdom (which was larger and stretched from the Forth to the Humber).

The region of Northumbria has a proud history and culture stretching back over a thousand years, and even has its own flag (gold/yellow and purple/red verticle stripes). In my opinion, Northumbria is a far better name for the region than the purely geographical and sterile North East England.

I shall be starting a campaign...
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