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Old April 2nd, 2010, 12:34 AM   #1041
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For many people outside of the area it is quite a confusing route to navigate. If you're on the North-South line
and are completely incapable of reading an extremely simple map
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and see a train for St James then you might end up going the long way around.
Limited sympathy!

If you're that dim a bit of travel should broaden the mind.

And yes, I've got on wrong trains and serves me right, too.
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Old April 2nd, 2010, 12:37 AM   #1042
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This way a good overlap is provided, and the number of transfers at South Gosforth during the peak hours are reduced.
I dunno... If you see a fat bloke puffing over the footbridge at SG that's me burning off a few superfluous calories.
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Old April 2nd, 2010, 12:45 AM   #1043
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Surely a sign on each platform on each station indicating the next station would solve any problems for out of towners.
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Old April 2nd, 2010, 12:54 AM   #1044
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It's easy when you're a local and thus used to it.

But there really isn't any need for a route to cross itself like that.
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Old April 2nd, 2010, 01:00 AM   #1045
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It's easy when you're a local and thus used to it.

But there really isn't any need for a route to cross itself like that.
The thing is though what about the London underground? Thats the same situation, people don't know which train to get often and which station is next untill they get on the platform.

I don't see any problem with the northern line coming back on its self, though maybe direct routes between South Shields and Sunderland and such are a good idea.
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Old April 2nd, 2010, 01:26 AM   #1046
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Apparently ours is the only Metro in the world where a line crosses over itself like that. We should celebrate it. And if a few stag-partyers get the wrong train, and get out by mistake at Percy Main and meet a grisly end, well, it's a price worth paying, in my view.
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Old April 2nd, 2010, 01:28 AM   #1047
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Apparently ours is the only Metro in the world where a line crosses over itself like that. We should celebrate it. And if a few stag-partyers get the wrong train, and get out by mistake at Percy Main and meet a grisly end, well, it's a price worth paying, in my view.
Something similar happend in Vancouver, and Moscow once, though Vancouver wasn't a Metro system.
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Old April 2nd, 2010, 02:42 AM   #1048
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Apparently ours is the only Metro in the world where a line crosses over itself like that. We should celebrate it. And if a few stag-partyers get the wrong train, and get out by mistake at Percy Main and meet a grisly end, well, it's a price worth paying, in my view.
I think that was once the case, but funnily enough Vancouver has a skytrain line that does the same called the Millennium line, crossing through Commercial Broadway twice on a full circuit.
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Old April 2nd, 2010, 12:38 PM   #1049
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You'd have plenty of time to grow them if you were waiting for a Metro at Manors.

I heard DB had wanted to reduce the number of evening services but Nexus declined.

Am I the only one would like like to see the 'loop' line broken up into two simpler routes?

For many people outside of the area it is quite a confusing route to navigate. If you're on the North-South line and see a train for St James then you might end up going the long way around.
They should really just announce the St.James trains as the coast in the city centre and then only once you get to the coast have them as trains to St.James.
That should stop that.


I agree it is a bit confusing for those not used to metros.
When I first used it I remember I knew the one I needed was coming to the station but also the other line came through here. I had no idea which side to get on and whether the coming train was the one I wanted.
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Old April 6th, 2010, 07:44 PM   #1050
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Maybe something like in this map would work:



The network is divided into 4 key routes:

Service A:
Operates from South Shileds to Tynemouth - Every day of the week, during all operating hours.

Service B: Operates from Newcastle Airport to South Hylton -Every day of the week, during all operating hours.

Service C: Operates from St. James to Monkseaton - Every day of the week, during all operating hours. Monday - Friday daytimes and Saturday peak hours these services continue to Newcastle Airport, operating as "C+".

Service D: Operates from Pelaw to Monkseaton - Monday - Friday daytimes.

Service D could eventually be extended to Sunderland, operating on an "every other stop" basis outside Newcastle and Sunderland city centres.

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Old April 6th, 2010, 09:19 PM   #1051
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I took a metro journey today and noticed that on every carriage the automatic 'next station' signs have been installed, however were not operating. Does anyone know when these signs and the automated audio will come online on the trains?
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Old April 6th, 2010, 09:35 PM   #1052
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I took a metro journey today and noticed that on every carriage the automatic 'next station' signs have been installed, however were not operating. Does anyone know when these signs and the automated audio will come online on the trains?
Every time someone asks that question to the Metro we keep getting told "In the coming weeks/month's", so between now and the end of time.
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Old April 6th, 2010, 10:01 PM   #1053
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Rail accident in Newcastle leaves man critically ill

From the BBC:

A man is critically ill in hospital after falling between two train carriages at Newcastle Central Station.

Metro services were halted for an hour while the emergency services attended the scene on Monday evening.

A 40-year-old man was taken to Newcastle General Hospital with potentially life-threatening injuries.

An investigation is now under way to establish what happened and the Rail Accident Investigation Board has been informed.

Richard McClean, managing director of Metro operator DB Regio, said: "Our thoughts are with him and his family at this time."
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Old April 6th, 2010, 10:08 PM   #1054
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Yeah I read about that in the Chronicle, hope he gets better.

The driver must be pretty cut up aswell.
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Old April 8th, 2010, 01:09 AM   #1055
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The "next station" signs were working on a train I caught the other week. That's the only time I've seen them in action, though - perhaps part of a test?

For the record, I thought the text was running across the screen far too quickly on that occasion; if you were unfamiliar with the station names it wouldn't have been of much use.
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Old April 11th, 2010, 03:18 PM   #1056
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Last thing I heard, the boards have not been switched on for general use because of a software issue with the system.

Chances are, Nexus didnt put any kind of late delivery clause into the contract for these being installed, so we may be waiting a while...

It may be that when the software issue is solved (presumably with an update), the text scrolling is also at a more acceptable speed.

To be perfectly honest though, I think Nexus really needed to get their station-side PA systems sorted before installing new stuff. At most stations the timing for the announcements is totally wrong, the volume is mostly wrong, and some stations (i.e. Palmersville) seem to have an issue where the arrivals board isnt even seeing that the train has entered the station. (Possibly a track circuit issue?) And this is without mentioning the issues with manual announcements seeming to lack any standardised structure or script.

Dont get me started about those annoying audio adverts that seem to be making an appearance again lately... I guess anything on the Metro is for sale these days...

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Old April 16th, 2010, 11:31 PM   #1057
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came across this interesting map the other day - seems we made the bakerloo line!

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/anniemole/313981428/
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Old April 17th, 2010, 04:04 PM   #1058
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Nice map - if only we could jump on a metro to some of those locations!
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Old April 17th, 2010, 04:18 PM   #1059
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came across this interesting map the other day - seems we made the bakerloo line!

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/anniemole/313981428/

Hi everyone, it's Mark Ovenden here, creator of the map you've posted above :-)

Here's some background and copyright info:

BACKSTORY:
The diagram was made for a book about subway/metro/transit map design.

UK hardback 2003/5: www.amazon.co.uk/Metro-Maps-World-v/dp/185414 2887
First version in Dutch: www.nnbh.com/titels/Ovenden,-M.,-Metrokaarten -van-de-were...
Most recent American edition (paperback): www.amazon.com/Transit-Maps-World-Mark-Ovende n/dp/0143112651

It is also available as a poster: www.ltmuseumshop.co.uk/LTM/Maps/Posters/Produ ct/Urban_rai...

And as a 'Travel Journal':
www.ltmuseumshop.co.uk/LTM/World_cities/Desig ner_gifts/Pr...


CITIES INCLUDED & LEFT OUT:
The reasoning behind it was to include all the cities that were mentioned in the book. This included full heavy Metro systems, a handful of more S-Bahn-like commuter systems which had metro-esque maps, hybrid light-rail/light-metro's and some modern LRT systems (but NOT ALL because of space & availability of maps - hence why certain important systems like Leipzig and many 'heritage' tram systems were not included in the book OR the map). It doesn't mean that they are not good systems, it was simply a practical issue!

REVISED EDITION:
We are currently preparing a revised edition which will no doubt have more pages and a wider spec - and that will undoubtedly mean a new map, on which I will try to include all the systems mentioned above :-)

COPYRIGHT:
In terms of copyright, though I own the original idea, we were exceptionally honored to be given permission to use the official Transport For London font (New Johnston), and permitted to make a map which closely resembles the London Underground diagram (colours/station markers, shape, interchange markers etc) - only a tiny handful of these have been permitted so far for example Simon Pattersons wonderful "Great Bear". We were also fortunate that Alan Foale who works at LS London and is the person who currently updates the official Tube map for TfL was kind enough to take my scrappy design and make it look like this map does!

If you are going to post this map on your blog/website, I cannot see any problem with that provided you explain what the map is and where it's from (ie "Taken from the Penguin book "Transit Maps of the World" "). However because it is copyrighted you cannot use it to profit from (ie to print copies on a t-shirt and sell them down the market/on ebay etc).

Anyway hope that clears it up and do feel free to add more suggestions and/or contact me directly via the website: www.markovenden.com

Cheers map-lovers :-)
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Old April 21st, 2010, 01:18 AM   #1060
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http://nextmetro.co.uk/ - Just found this.

Looks promising, although kind of pi**es me off that there is no Windows Mobile support mentioned...

Seems that with SmartPhones you take a gamble when choosing your desired platform these days...

Bit of a long shot - but anyone here fancy teaming up to develop a browser based solution?

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