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Old September 4th, 2017, 02:44 PM   #3621
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I think that this will answer your question (from Iran railways SSC forum):
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A new weekly train between Zahedan and Esfahan will be launched on August 30, 2017.
The train will then run on September 6 from Esfahan to Zahedan and back on 7 September, on a weekly basis.



معاون مسافری راه آهن جمهوری اسلامی ایران از راه اندازی قطار مسافری زاهدان- اصفهان همزمان با هفته دولت خبر داد.

💢 میر حسن موسوی افزود: طبق برنامه قطار زاهدان - اصفهان چهارشنبه هشتم شهریور 96 همزمان با هفته دولت راه اندازی می شود و سیر خود را در این مسیر آغاز می کند.

More details on http://goo.gl/HjrgWF
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Old September 4th, 2017, 08:09 PM   #3622
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Can somebody give me more information about the proposed 36 month work on the Norwegian railway from Oslo to Stockholm which threatens the international service: Is it just a maintenance or a proper upgrade of the line? Will the journey time between the two capitals be speed up soon?
No such luck. This is replacing the overhead power lines. It will still be as slow as before, and as much of a detour as before. A fast railway line Oslo-Stockholm is unlikely before 2050.
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Old September 5th, 2017, 12:45 PM   #3623
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For China/Europe freight rail has and will always have a marginal role and mostly for special shipments where delivery time is crucial. Sea shipment is vastly cheaper and has greater capacity. Largest container ships cary about 20,000 containers. How many trains would be needed to carry the equivalent? If we assume 50 containers per train it's 400 trains and even if one could send two of those per hour 24 hours per day (probably impossible) it would still take more than 8 days just to send them on their way.
Please note that currently seas and canals are mostly open and accessible. However part of the see route goes via political sensitive areas and it might be possible that sea transport will be affected in the future. What if something happens with Sues canal or Mandeb strait? The sea transport China to EU can be also easily affected by a rouge 3rd party from anywhere in the world, while they will have more problems affecting the rail transport. I think security is what (among other factors) is driving China for the rail projects.
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Old September 5th, 2017, 02:23 PM   #3624
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Train has the middle position. It cannot ship as much as ships, but a whole lot more than airplanes can. Not as fast as air, but significantly faster than ships.

The debate is how important that middle range will be for supply chains, today and in the future.

For China there are security issues. The business of China are vulnerable to a good number of chokepoints like the Strait of Malacca, the Suez Canal and so on. Any one of these can cause problems. It's a strong incentive to be friendly with Pakistan. A Pakistani port with land transport to China is a good supplement to the regular Asian circumnavigation. A route through Russia and/or the southern route through Iran give flexibility and market access. These routes also go through or by practically every troublespot we have in Eurasia. The optimistic approach is that this give them good financial incentives to be less troubled (make trade, not war). In any case they would be better connected, and it is better to have rich neighbours than poor.
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Old September 7th, 2017, 03:31 AM   #3625
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Is the Kars Tiblisi line finished yet? Surely it must be one of the longest delayed projects ever. I read an National Geographic article in 2010 about how construction was going apace on the route. two years later, in Kars I saw no evidence of railway construction in any shape or form. In Georgia a few days later the train line north from Ninotsminda didn't have the appearance of a route that was being improved, rather it gave the impression of one that had been abandoned for any number of years.
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Old September 7th, 2017, 09:22 AM   #3626
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https://www.azernews.az/business/116502.html

This is the latest trustable news I have about that.

And also this :

https://railturkey.org/2017/07/22/wh...and-whats-not/
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Old September 8th, 2017, 03:11 AM   #3627
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The azeri news one has been uncritically posting any government officials pronouncement on the matter, they posting for years that testing will start next month every single time I checked. At least they seem to have moved on from that position, to testing has begun. Which would conflict with this from your other link
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The 29-km-long border-Akhalkalaki section is not ready yet.
So still not finished, pretty dreadful really the lack of transparency and delays on such an important project.
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Old September 12th, 2017, 02:46 AM   #3628
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Why not extend the standard gauge networks in the other direction, then?
Why ???


The baltic coast and Vladivostok are connected by a 1520mm gauge direct link.
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Old September 12th, 2017, 08:36 PM   #3629
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The baltic coast and Vladivostok are connected by a 1520mm gauge direct link.
That is a relic of Stalin and EU should have funds helping Finland and the Baltic countries to regauge their relatively small rail networks.
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Old September 12th, 2017, 09:04 PM   #3630
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That is a relic of Stalin and EU should have funds helping Finland and the Baltic countries to regauge their relatively small rail networks.
Should EU help to regauge other thousands of kilometers to Vladivistok?

And you are wrong, the Baltic countries' (including Finland) gauge was chosen long before Stalin. And even when those countries became independent, they continued to use this gauge and build new 1524 mm railroads. I.e. Estonia has built Tartu-Pechory tracks in 1931 while being independent. And Finland keeps to use this gauge and to build new tracks. So, should EU finance rebuilding all Finnish railroads too?
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Old September 12th, 2017, 09:46 PM   #3631
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Isn't this better?


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...geWidening.jpg
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Old September 12th, 2017, 11:53 PM   #3632
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It depends... If we talk about making double gauge tracks across the continent, could this be even better?
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Old September 13th, 2017, 09:41 AM   #3633
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Or this ?
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Old September 13th, 2017, 04:57 PM   #3634
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That makes me dizzy.
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Old September 13th, 2017, 07:37 PM   #3635
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Supposedly it's not a good idea because of different wear-out of the rails and it's (again, supposedly) impossible to combine 1435 mm and 1520 mm gauges in such a way because they are too close to each other.
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Old September 13th, 2017, 08:10 PM   #3636
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Should EU help to regauge other thousands of kilometers to Vladivistok?

And you are wrong, the Baltic countries' (including Finland) gauge was chosen long before Stalin. And even when those countries became independent, they continued to use this gauge and build new 1524 mm railroads. I.e. Estonia has built Tartu-Pechory tracks in 1931 while being independent. And Finland keeps to use this gauge and to build new tracks. So, should EU finance rebuilding all Finnish railroads too?
To clarify a bit, standard gauge railway reached as fas as up to Riga in 1930ties.

At moment the problem is that Baltic States doesn't have good land transport to Central/Western Europe, a modern standard gauge railway. Our enterprises doesn't have access to the European rail network. The new modern standard gauge railway from Warszaw to Tallinn and Helsinki will solve the issue.

About the existing network in Baltic States, it has not had any big renewals since russian occupation time. That's why it's still relatively slow and not in correspondence what a real passenger railway should look like.

Due to these reasons some existing lines in Baltic States need to be rebuilt to allow greater speeds and during rebuilding some of the lines might be reasonable to be converted to standard gauge 1435mm. But for the Baltic region it is good to be connected to both networks 1435 and 1520/1524, for this reason it would not be reasonable to convert all railways in Baltic States to standard 1435mm.
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Russian and standard gauges cannot be combined with a third track. They require 4 tracks, as shown in the pic above. Iberian and standard gauge can be combined in three tracks because they are far apart enough.
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Old September 19th, 2017, 11:14 AM   #3638
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The football train Östersund-Berlin, dec 5-9th

Östersund, Sweden has a football team that is going to play a CL match against Hertha Berlin in december.

There is going to be a chartered train from Östersund to Berlin via the ferry Trelleborg-Sassnitz. I wish I could spot this train from Linköping but it will pass by at night.

Departure dec 5th
Östersund C 18:00
Stockholm C 23:30
Lund C 06:00 (dec 6th)
Trelleborg (ferry) 08:00
Berlin Hbf Arrival 16.00 (dec 6th)



Join the Victory train (Segertåget) to Berlin and have an extraordinary football experience. Solidarity and friendship is the focus when we charter a special train and go to Germany to cheer our ÖFK-team against Hertha Berlin in the Europa League.

On our way down we practice cheer chants and enjoy the fotball fan- atmosphere on board along with hundreds of devoted fans. We arrive in the afternoon the day before the match so in addition to the match there is also time for some Christmas shopping. Berlin has over 60
Christmas markets so be sure to visit any of them, or take advantage of the wide range of tourist attractions. In addition, there is the option of tax-free shopping on the ferry, both down and down way home. In Berlin, we live comfortably in a mid-range hotel, including breakfast.
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Old October 2nd, 2017, 09:37 AM   #3639
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The dream train Oulu,Finland-Haparanda,Sweden



This saturday a group of politicians from the city of Oulu, Finland boarded the dream train to Haparanda, Sweden. The trip was an event that was being arranged to accelerate the Oulu-Haaparanta-Luleå train connection.

A passengertrain service from Oulu, Finland to Sweden would require electrification of the line between Kemi and Haparanda, with an investment of about EUR 15 million.


The threshold from the train to the platform was a bit tedious, among others, for a couple who were dressed in old fashion clothing in honor of the dream train.
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Old October 2nd, 2017, 12:47 PM   #3640
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A dream train, huh? Back in 1989 I was able to travel via entire Sweden (Malmö, Stockholm, Luleå) to Northern Finland. Quite exhausting travel, but it used to be possible then. The last stretch from Luleå made in a slow regional train that ended in Haparanda. The short distance to Tornio had to be made in a VR or SJ bus. Next from Tornio to Oulu by Finnish "pikajuna" train. Very interesting route indeed.
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