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Old September 13th, 2017, 02:14 PM   #2781
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Old September 13th, 2017, 03:32 PM   #2782
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Why NEET is giving so many importance in TN?

Out of 3500+ seats, TN syllabus students already got 63% of it. If NEET is not there maybe 10 - 20% more TN syllabus students might have got the seats.

So only for this 350 - 700 people these political parties are fighting? Motive looks something different for them.

I would have been happy if these parties fight like this against corruption, petrol price hike, for infrastructure issues etc...
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Old September 13th, 2017, 03:35 PM   #2783
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I don't have doubt TN students will rock Neet, but the problem is it will be skewed against students like Anitha.
NEET Vendavevendam nu chollalame Why do you require some excuse.Even urban based students are also struggling not just poor rural students in an urbanised state.Diagnose the problem and give treatment to the self inflicted education mess.Potilendu thappikameduma nerandarama?
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Old September 13th, 2017, 04:31 PM   #2784
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True,

NEET is ensuring city based creamy layer in each caste corner most of these seats.

Also,

JEE coaching is ensuring city based creamy layer in each caste corner most of the Prestigious engg college (IITS,NITs)seats.

GATE coaching is ensuring city based creamy layer in each caste corner most of the MTech/ME seats in Prestigious engg colleges.

GATE coaching is further ensuring city based creamy layer in each caste corner most of the appointments in PSUs at the entry level.

CAT coaching is ensuring city based creamy layer in each caste corner most of the Prestigious Management college (IIMs etc)seats for MBAs.

IES ( Indian Engg services) coaching is ensuring city based creamy layer in each caste corner most of the Engineers appointments in central govt.

IAS academy coaching is ensuring city based creamy layer in each caste corner most of the civil services appointments in central govt

Bank coaching centers are ensuring city based creamy layer in each caste corner most of the Bank services appointments.

All these coaching and entrance exams are to be scrapped to make level playing field for rural poor. A small village in backward district of TN or any other state does not have any such coaching center. So he can't compete all these exams with other town/city based candidates.

Let anti NEET parties take up these issues also.
Central government is well within its rights to decide the manner pf admission in central govt institutions like IITs and IIMs. But the problem comes when it is un necessarily interfere in a particular state's freedom to decide its own policy according to their local conditions. Hence dont compare NEET with GATE, CAT or JEE.

Nobody here demands free employment. Recruitment examinations are totally different from entrance exams. An employer is well within their rights to decide the terms of recruitment but you cant apply the same metrics to enter into an educational institution. Nobody here opposes Combined Medical service exams and the likes. When a doctor enters into the market we need to asses his knowledge/skills but filtering students at school stage with some arbitrary system is totally irrational.
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Old September 13th, 2017, 04:44 PM   #2785
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Why NEET is giving so many importance in TN?

Out of 3500+ seats, TN syllabus students already got 63% of it. If NEET is not there maybe 10 - 20% more TN syllabus students might have got the seats.

So only for this 350 - 700 people these political parties are fighting? Motive looks something different for them.

I would have been happy if these parties fight like this against corruption, petrol price hike, for infrastructure issues etc...
Let's give all 3000+ seats to the CG for them to fill the seats with "pure merit", aka "CBSE" students. Why worry for just some 3000 college seats?
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Old September 13th, 2017, 04:56 PM   #2786
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Let's give all 3000+ seats to the CG for them to fill the seats with "pure merit", aka "CBSE" students. Why worry for just some 3000 college seats?
So, stop the opposition to Navodayas as well
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Old September 13th, 2017, 05:15 PM   #2787
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So, stop the opposition to Navodayas as well
and let's make Tamilisai the CM and H. Raja the education minister.
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Old September 13th, 2017, 05:40 PM   #2788
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Why NEET is giving so many importance in TN?

Out of 3500+ seats, TN syllabus students already got 63% of it. If NEET is not there maybe 10 - 20% more TN syllabus students might have got the seats.

So only for this 350 - 700 people these political parties are fighting? Motive looks something different for them.

I would have been happy if these parties fight like this against corruption, petrol price hike, for infrastructure issues etc...
People in TN are fighting for their own rights and to determine their own fate.

Not to be ruled by some random orders from uninterested parties from outside the state.

It is not just NEET.

There was an order against Jallikattu.
There was an order against beef.
There was an order for Sanskrit.
There was an order for Hindi in highway milestones.
There was an order against CMB.

We don't need a government that pushes their (unwanted laws) down our throats. We pay taxes like everyone else and we want laws that does some good for us once in a while.
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Old September 13th, 2017, 06:13 PM   #2789
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Old September 13th, 2017, 06:19 PM   #2790
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What is that 'common ground' are we striving for?

These entrance exams test the Math and science skills of students and almost all of us agree that the syllabus across different boards is more or less the same.

So, the syllabus is not that big a deal right, across boards?

And if you are talking about finding common ground btwn the 'haves and 'havenots', lets stop living in utpia. A common ground btwn the 'haves and 'havenots' can never be achieved. The haves will always be a step ahead.

And as u r a supporter of the +2 board system, do u think the 'haves' didn't have the advantage in that system? Look at the number of govt school students who got MBBS seats in govt colleges in the last 10 years. They form less than 1% of the total admissions.

So, what are we fighting for?

P.S: I really sympathize with the 2017 passouts not because of NEET per se but because of the stupid politics played by SG and CG in this issue. They should have clearly said be ready for NEET.

But I am very sure TN students will start rocking in 2-3 years time in the NEET system also. Afterall, we are one of the best states in India, aren't we? Plus, with this NEET, we will also start cornering more seats in that 15% All India quota as well ( So far, our students were not concentrating on this at all). MBBS students from TN are going to go up in the coming years for sure!!

This is my line of thinking as well. I don't think there will be any advantages or disadvantages due to NEET.

Though I don't have any data, I don't believe the earlier method was good for rural students.

As long as there are exams, they are going to be shortcuts which will proliferate over a period of time and NEET is not an exception.

After a period of instability of 2-3 years, things should be back to normal.
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Old September 13th, 2017, 07:02 PM   #2791
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People in TN are fighting for their own rights and to determine their own fate.

Not to be ruled by some random orders from uninterested parties from outside the state.

It is not just NEET.

There was an order against Jallikattu.
There was an order against beef.
There was an order for Sanskrit.
There was an order for Hindi in highway milestones.
There was an order against CMB.

We don't need a government that pushes their (unwanted laws) down our throats. We pay taxes like everyone else and we want laws that does some good for us once in a while.
Neenga vera

There was an order against Jallikattu. - UPA Govt., this Govt. is pavam just abiding to the existing law. This Govt. is all for it and cleared the ordinance within mins

There was an order for Hindi in highway milestones. - UPA Govt., this Govt. is pavam just abiding to the existing law.

There was an order against CMB. - SC spoiled the party, not this Govt.

DMK was there in CG for decades, why they didn't do......
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Old September 13th, 2017, 07:25 PM   #2792
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Central government is well within its rights to decide the manner pf admission in central govt institutions like IITs and IIMs. But the problem comes when it is un necessarily interfere in a particular state's freedom to decide its own policy according to their local conditions. Hence dont compare NEET with GATE, CAT or JEE.

Nobody here demands free employment. Recruitment examinations are totally different from entrance exams. An employer is well within their rights to decide the terms of recruitment but you cant apply the same metrics to enter into an educational institution. Nobody here opposes Combined Medical service exams and the likes. When a doctor enters into the market we need to asses his knowledge/skills but filtering students at school stage with some arbitrary system is totally irrational.
Deemed universities in TN are conducting entrance tests why?
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Old September 13th, 2017, 07:30 PM   #2793
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Why NEET is giving so many importance in TN?

Out of 3500+ seats, TN syllabus students already got 63% of it. If NEET is not there maybe 10 - 20% more TN syllabus students might have got the seats.

So only for this 350 - 700 people these political parties are fighting? Motive looks something different for them.

I would have been happy if these parties fight like this against corruption, petrol price hike, for infrastructure issues etc...
Huge unemployment problems is not coming to the attention of political parties in TN.They are interested in their lucrative employment only somehow grab power and loot.If in 2019 elections if UPA 3 comes to power our DMK politicians will plan 4G scam
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Old September 13th, 2017, 08:55 PM   #2794
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Trust at Trichy to train bright rural students for NEET by Alumni of NIT-Trichy and IIT-Madras at free of Cost

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Here is good news for bright rural students hailing from economically weaker sections of society and aspiring to realise their dream of pursuing medical education.

A trust has been formed by alumni of the country's premier institutions, the National Institute of Technology-Tiruchi (NIT-T) and IIT-Madras, to conduct a six-month full-time residential programme free of cost for 30 students, who have cleared the State Board examination in 2017 to crack NEET 2018.


Established by Prabu G. Kumar of NIT-T and R.V.S. Muralidhar of IIT-Madras and IIM-Kozhikode, with the objective of providing the students a level-playing field with their peers from affluent sections of society, Dr. Radhakrishnan Educational Trust will meet the entire cost of boarding, lodging and study materials, while Seekers Educational Services, with which the Trust has entered into a tie-up, will provide faculty and classrooms.

Criteria

The Trust will receive applications from students of government and government-aided schools with good marks: above 180 marks in medical cut-off or 1,100 marks out of 1,200. Students, who had appeared for NEET 2017 and scored minimum cut-off marks, will be given preference. A test and interview will be conducted if there are more applicants.

The course will be conducted from October to May next year for the selected students. They will undergo a rigorous coaching programme with about six hours of classes and three hours of tutorials per day for six days per week.

The course will be conducted in three terms of eight weeks each with one week break in between. In addition to NEET syllabus, students will also be trained in English, communication and computer skills. There will also be yoga, prayer and sports sessions every day.

The Trust will utilise a new building constructed by Dakshina Bharat Hindi Prachar Sabha at Thennur for lodging, boarding, tutorials, self-study and sports sessions. Classes will be conducted at the classrooms of Seekers close by.

Accomodation

Separate accommodation will be provided for boys and girls under the care of separate live-in male and female wardens with 24-hours security, and quality vegetarian diet.

The Trust can be contacted for application and additional information either by mail: [email protected] or by phone: 98948 99776 from 9.00 a.m. to 5.00 p.m. - Monday to Saturday). Applicants can also visit the Dakshina Bharat Hindi Prachar Sabha premises in person.

source: http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper...le19674275.ece
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Old September 13th, 2017, 11:05 PM   #2795
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Rs 24cr Mylapore temple land recovered

Property worth Rs 24 crore on Ramakrishna Mutt Road, Mylapore, belonging to Kapaleeswarar temple was recovered after the temple authorities evicted tenants who were living and sub-letting the place for the past 100 years. With the help of the police, temple officials evicted tenants from a total area of 10,000 sqft.

"The property belonging to the temple was let out on rent to Nallavenna Mudaliar and M Krishnamurthy nearly 100 years back and since then the two families have sub-let to householders as well shopkeepers," Kapali temple executive officer D Kaveri told TOI.

The property is situated opposite to P S Higher Secondary School on R K Mutt Road. "We sent several notices asking them to pay rent accruing to a total of Rs 73 lakh. Mudaliar's son was in-charge of part of the property. He owes Rs 17 lakh in rent arrears," said the executive officer.

The tenants were not paying the fair rent fixed by the temple and were paying pittance. Fair rent is a rent fixed in between guideline value and market value. "Both have not paid the fair rent for the property. The property was divided into 3 residential houses and 15 shops and the main tenants were earning by sub-letting the property," she said.


Every now and then Kapali temple has been recovering property in and around Mylapore due to the prodding of the temple fit person Vijaykumar Reddy. In December last year, temple authorities retrieved property measuring 4,952sqft at Triplicane after the occupant failed to pay rent dues to the extent of Rs 34.12 lakh. The total worth of the property is Rs 12 crore.


"The occupant was paying only Rs 10,000 as monthly rent for the land against the fair rent of Rs 40,000. The joint commissioner of Hindu Religious and Charitable Endowments department terminated the lease in 2015 as the press owner refused to pay the balance amount," said Kaveri.


Similarly, properties on Greenways Road and Luz Church Road have been recovered in the last few years.

Source : http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/c...TOIChennaiNews
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Old September 13th, 2017, 11:52 PM   #2796
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Deemed universities in TN are conducting entrance tests why?
They are conducting the test only for their admission.

Imagine a TN deemed university, X saying that admission to AIMS should be based on X's entrance exam, because X things that their exam quality is the best.

How stupid is that? That is the scenario we are in now
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Old September 13th, 2017, 11:58 PM   #2797
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very well written by Malan on NEET.. am giving only the last few questions which pertains to our discussion here..

அச்சம் தவிர்!
When we say my head is paining this guy is saying the leg is fine.
The leg was fine before too, but the head that was fine before is not fine anymore.


The Leg:
Even before NEET most of the top rankings were taken by the reserved categories, and with NEET also it remains the same.

The Head:
Pre NEET more reserved categories people got selected, Post NEET less reserved categories people got selected.
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Old September 13th, 2017, 11:59 PM   #2798
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Only father knows the pain of bringing his daughter as a doctor.
What is Church father doing here? oh it's a secular group...

On ground level, support for NEET is more than opposition, just that they are not vocal. Sorry for those that imagines this issue can come up like JK. (for which I too supported it and protested in Trichy Cantonment.)
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Old September 14th, 2017, 12:24 AM   #2799
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What is Church father doing here? oh it's a secular group...

On ground level, support for NEET is more than opposition, just that they are not vocal.
Sorry for those that imagines this issue can come up like JK. (for which I too supported it and protested in Trichy Cantonment.)
That's what I too hear. ! SM induced protest won't last long. !
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Old September 14th, 2017, 12:41 AM   #2800
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I dont think so. A decent CBSE student without coaching may still be able to solve all questions in the NEET paper but not within the given time. Say he solves 80/100 questions without coaching, he might solve 90/100 with coaching.

But, a TN SB student even with great marks in TN SB may not be able to solve basic analytical problems because he/she was never trained to analyse and solve, but only to mug up and reproduce. See the example of Maths paper I gave CY. What do u feel about that? Genuinely? Its MATHS!!!!!
if you need to revamp the educational system ,we should start from the bottom and not from the TOP..probably we might need to improve the educational infra of all the govt /state board schools before bringing in a competitive exam like NEET..

You have MCAT like exams in US,thats cos the public schools is on par with private schools and rural area or semi urban area can squarely compete with a Metro region ..that a leveling field to have a competitive exam which makes sense..

On other hand with a huge disparity and complexity in the educational system of India,we were not even given few years of time ...and yes when you want to radically change something ,better we give some time off and not to be in too hasty move..

like how the demon was screwed up ..and few thought it was a genius idea initially..
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