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Old May 16th, 2017, 01:19 AM   #3281
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It's about time Toronto built something taller than First Canadian Place. Who'd have thought it in 1975 that it would take 44 years to top it.
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Old May 17th, 2017, 03:42 AM   #3282
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It's about time Toronto built something taller than First Canadian Place. Who'd have thought it in 1975 that it would take 44 years to top it.
thats the same in a lot of cities. Sydney got its first big devs of note in the city for decades with Barrangaroo. Now it will probably stagnate again. Whilst all the satellite cities are getting bigger and bigger.
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Old May 17th, 2017, 10:58 AM   #3283
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It wasn't the first big development in 'decades'. World Square was completed in around 2004/05 for one. Nor is it stagnating, there's about 10 towers over 200m in the pipeline for the CBD which is pretty much double what the it currently has, with 2 under construction, + more 100m+. The tallest towers at Barangaroo are still yet to come. It's only that Sydney's CBD is growing slower than places like Melbourne's CBD, maybe even Brisbane's when it comes to tall towers. Though I'm speaking only for the city centres, what's happening around the metro is a different story.
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Old May 18th, 2017, 02:18 AM   #3284
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It wasn't the first big development in 'decades'. World Square was completed in around 2004/05 for one. Nor is it stagnating, there's about 10 towers over 200m in the pipeline for the CBD which is pretty much double what the it currently has, with 2 under construction, + more 100m+. The tallest towers at Barangaroo are still yet to come. It's only that Sydney's CBD is growing slower than places like Melbourne's CBD, maybe even Brisbane's when it comes to tall towers. Though I'm speaking only for the city centres, what's happening around the metro is a different story.
World square was a disappointment. Instead of an all conquering single block tower that would have been a beautiful beacon at the south of the city from 3 decades ago ended up being 3 non descriptive towers that was built over a decade ago that now, even a named tenant couldn't move fast enough to get out of.

pipeline is a pipeline, most of which i heard were still under review (happy to be corrected).

only 2 more towers at Barrangaroo will be taller than T3 that is the slimline apartment tower a little more set back to the east straddling sussex st and the Crown Tower.

there is clearly more activity going on in the satellite cities namely due to real estate prices and availability of space.

One of the cities biggest tenants CBA is moving nearly 15k people to a new business park behind the tech park at Redfern / Erskinville. Alot of other big real estate companies like the Big 4 Auditors are vacating the city proper to go into Barangaroo and others are looking at the proposed new devs going up on George st and the old gateway building.

this is all just stuff i have heard and read and my opinion and is probably changing all the time but on the whole i personally dont see the growth in the CBD proper that would need to sustain Sydney itself as a global city; even though it is making more use of its extremities and satellite cities. Eventually it will coalesce im sure but not for another 20 years after our population boom of another 5 million people.
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Old May 18th, 2017, 08:33 AM   #3285
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I might not reply past this post since this isn't a Sydney thread, but regardless of people's opinions of it a big development is a big development, and World Square is just that. Simple as that. The ANZ tower was completed just a few years ago and has a decent impact on the skyline, that's another to think about.

Then there's the new convention and exhibition facilities. The redevelopment of the entire Darling Harbour precinct. The "Central Park" development. The light rail and pedestrianisation of George st. And so on. The CBD is in the midst of an ongoing transformation it hasn't seen for decades.

More than half the total amount of planned towers at Barangaroo are still to be built. 3 of them including 2 which will be new tallests are over 200m, compared with the finished trio of which just one is over that.

You can say all developments in proposal stage are 'under review'. In Sydney's case the planning process seems to take twice as long as everywhere else, but regardless almost all major proposals look set to go ahead eventually, the majority within the next few years. Perhaps one side effect of having such a rigorous planning system is that developers who choose to develop within Sydney CBD are usually serious.

I agree that given the geographical and current planning constraints the CBD can't solely take most of Sydney's growth, and there's already a pattern of decentralisation beginning to emerge. That might especially seem to be the case when there's some very fast and comparatively centralised growth in CBDs right next door to us like Melbourne's, or more importantly even within Sydney's metro itself, as you brought up.

But regardless of that I would not say a CBD with new tallests currently under construction + more planned to start within the next few years, + the myriad of changes happening at street level and on the transport front, is stagnating.

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Old May 24th, 2017, 02:38 AM   #3288
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i love the curve of those buildings it makes that piece of land take on the view of a ship...Brilliant thoughtfulness in its design, very organic
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