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Old May 25th, 2017, 11:57 AM   #16301
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cause i travel all around europe by road and learn pls where Vitoria is , thanks
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Old May 25th, 2017, 01:53 PM   #16302
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Oh, yeah, I`m really sorry, Vitoria sounds me really very Portuguese. I don`t know why? maybe because of Vitoria Setubal (footbal club)? Now I see it`s Basque city.

Ok, What`s change for u when see or don`t see motorways on GM? Anyway the most important thing is to show and suggest the best (the most optimal) way by GM. Whether it's a motorway or an ordinary road, does not matter.

To be honest, for me, the request to display on any map, polish expressways as motorways is a manifestation of huge complexes and nothing more.
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Old May 25th, 2017, 02:05 PM   #16303
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It matters, because maybe someone will be choosing the road (one of the alternatives, for example) by how it looks on Google Maps.
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Old May 25th, 2017, 05:33 PM   #16304
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portuguese expressways are as motorways on google maps, why not spanish or polish ones if they are like motoways but free of toll
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http://www.lavozdegalicia.es/sc/x/de...6473/Foto/.jpg

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http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/118568287.jpg

not like in france or italy, where they are really expressways

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https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5733/...1ffc9685_c.jpg

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http://www.laprovinciadibiella.it/up...ca349a84e3.jpg
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Old May 25th, 2017, 06:01 PM   #16305
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portuguese expressways are as motorways on google maps, why not spanish or polish ones if they are like motoways but free of toll
Why free of toll? Only motorways are tolled in Poland!
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Old May 25th, 2017, 06:04 PM   #16306
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the same in spain
motorway , you have to pay

http://www.lavanguardia.com/r/GODO/L...uardia-Web.jpg

expressway , free of toll , this is the only diference i find


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Old May 25th, 2017, 06:20 PM   #16307
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the same in spain
motorway , you have to pay
??? I don't think that I have to explain YOU which Spanish roads are tolled but... Most of spanish motoways are untolled! "A-" usually untolled, only "AP-" usually tolled.

However, I don't see any combination to how it's indicated on Google Maps...

But I'd also prefer having Polish 2x2 expressways signed like Polish motorways on GM.
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Old May 25th, 2017, 06:30 PM   #16308
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A , untolled = expressways ( shown as main roads on gm ) = free motorways
AP , tolled = motorways
this is what i tried to say with my poor english ( sorry for the off topic )

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Old May 25th, 2017, 07:56 PM   #16309
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Is that an international thread ? I think it isn`t Poland | road infrastructure
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I've seen this discussion in almost all country threads. To me, any dual-carriageway, grade-separated road restricted to motor vehicles is a motorway, regardless on the legal distinctions of certain countries (autopista/autovía, autostrada/superstrada...) and/or the way Google Maps displays roads.

After all, the terms "motorway" and "expressway" are loosely translated because they mean different things in the UK and in the US.
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Any updates on opening dates for Inowroclaw and Nysa bypasses?
Nysa bypass (DK46) will open on 1st June. DK41 will open in Autumn.

Inowrocław - June is possible, but it depends how fast will they manage to do all the pre-opening bureaucracy...

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There is also S7 from Nidzica to Napierki? (just needs white road lines and exit signs I believe)
2nd half of June

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Why free of toll? Only motorways are tolled in Poland!
In fact, even the so-called autostrady are mostly toll free

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It would be cheaper to change these idiotic settings on google. The same is true for Turkey and Spain, which have great roads but you cant see it on google maps.
They used to be marked the same a few years ago, but then some Google dudes from India decided that it is wrong...


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Why free of toll? Only motorways are tolled in Poland!
And he wrote exactly about it.

Expressways in Poland are almost like motorways. Actually, most of them are better than many motorways in western-European countries. What differentiates them from the motorways is the lack of toll.

Although it's a "rule of thumb", there is no official regulation that would say that motorways are toll road and expressways are free of toll. Theoretically there may be toll expressways, our law allows it. It's just so that no toll expressways are planned, and that if the government wanted to make them toll, too many people would hate them for it.

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In fact, even the so-called autostrady are mostly toll free
Mainly because our government still cannot decide which toll collection system to use after they (the previous government, in fact) resigned from building toll gates. Vignettes? Electronic vignettes? Charges for km, but based on what: license plate detection? electronic devices installed in cars? The discussion is going on for a few years and nothing can be decided.
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