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Old May 10th, 2006, 10:53 AM   #141
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I might see if I can order a crate of bitter and lager. Not sure if they deliver to Leeds though.

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Old May 10th, 2006, 11:29 AM   #142
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They deliver to Guildford, Blabs (I got a crate of Cains Lager a few months ago), so you'll get the stuff alright.
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Old May 22nd, 2006, 11:19 PM   #143
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Oooh, I want some of this stuff

CAINS CREAMY STOUT A ‘TASTE OF THE BREWERY’S ROOTS’

Specialist brewer Cains has gone back to the brewery’s Irish roots by launching a full-flavoured Creamy Stout to challenge the likes of Guinness and Murphy’s.

Brewery founder Robert Cain hailed from Cork and, for many years, Cains was famous for its stout.

Now craft brewers at the Liverpool site have perfected the taste of what brewery owners Ajmail and Sudarghara Dusanj believe will be another successful beer to add to Cains’ growing reputation outside of the North West.

The 4.1 ABV stout – brewed with the finest dried hops and water pumped from the brewery’s own natural source - is being launched exclusively in Cains’ own pubs before being offered for wider distribution.

It was developed with the help of expert tasters from the Local branches of the Campaign for Real Ale who were brought in during the brewing process to help define the taste Cains wanted to achieve.

Despite launching into a section of the beer market dominated by major brand names, joint managing director Sudarghara Dusanj believes the new stout is filling a taste-niche.

He explained: “We are offering something different, a full flavour brewed by traditional methods. It may look like the other stouts on the market but it is
elegant and smooth – a black velvet texture with a beautiful creamy, rich, chocolate taste

“It’s all about the flavour. The big name stouts currently on sale are either quite bitter or sweet – we are aiming somewhere between.

“This brewery was partly built on the reputation of its stout and it feels right to be bringing a version back. It’s a taste of Cains’ history.”

Steve Downing, CAMRA’s Liverpool branch secretary said: “Cains’ Creamy Stout is a fantastic addition to the brewery's range. They have nothing else like this. I remember Cains’ Superior Stout but this is a sweeter brew - full-bodied, distinctive with interesting roast flavours. I'm sure it will be very popular."
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Old May 22nd, 2006, 11:24 PM   #144
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I'm not a huge fan of stout. Although I'm glad Cains is adopting an aggressive policy and fighting its corner in many different style of beer.

There are much better stouts than Guiness and Caffreys IMO. Will this be cask conditioned?
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Old May 22nd, 2006, 11:39 PM   #145
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Cask? Good question; I was thinking that. It doesn't say. The old Cains Superior Stout was cask. The "Creamy" part of the new beer's name suggests that its a nitrokeg like Guinness and Murphy's. It might be available in both versions. After all they've got the local Camra guy to comment.

I find myself drinking Guinness down here quite a lot, as often a decent alternative isn't available. I can't abide Carling, etc., and I think that my days of Stella Adventures (waking up in the strangest of places, with the strangest of new friends) are best left to my younger days. I'm not that keen on many southern bitters, tbh, also, certainly not in large quantities as the bitterness tends to build up after a couple of pints.

You're right about Guinness being a fairly average product. It's the power of advertising. Draft Guinness must be one of the blandest beers around - it is the Bud of stouts. Mass marketing, mass produced and brewed to be as tasteless as possible to aid rapid drinking and hence further pint purchases. The Guinness Original or that thick, treacly Nigerian stuff are a different matter, of course.

Tomorrow, I'm flying to Milwaukee with work. The "Brewer City", they say. I'll try to give Miller, et al., the swerve and check out the wide variety of new microbreweries and brewpubs that I read exist in the area.
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Old May 22nd, 2006, 11:52 PM   #146
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Cask? Good question; I was thinking that. It doesn't say. The old Cains Superior Stout was cask. The "Creamy" part of the new beer's name suggests that its a nitrokeg like Guinness and Murphy's. It might be available in both versions. After all they've got the local Camra guy to comment.

I find myself drinking Guinness down here quite a lot, as often a decent alternative isn't available. I can't abide Carling, etc., and I think that my days of Stella Adventures (waking up in the strangest of places, with the strangest of new friends) are best left to my younger days. I'm not that keen on many southern bitters, tbh, also, certainly not in large quantities as the bitterness tends to build up after a couple of pints.

You're right about Guinness being a fairly average product. It's the power of advertising. Draft Guinness must be one of the blandest beers around - it is the Bud of stouts. Mass marketing, mass produced and brewed to be as tasteless as possible to aid rapid drinking and hence further pint purchases. The Guinness Original or that thick, treacly Nigerian stuff are a different matter, of course.

Tomorrow, I'm flying to Milwaukee with work. The "Brewer City", they say. I'll try to give Miller, et al., the swerve and check out the wide variety of new microbreweries and brewpubs that I read exist in the area.
Thanks for the post Awayo.

I think the 'creamy' does suggest nitro will be involved. But yeah, I can see them having a run for both.

I was reading this thing the other day about how annoyed the Grerman brewers are at the fact that Bud is the official beer in all of the stadiums. Budweiser doesn't even class as 'beer' in Germany as it isn't made from malt and hops.
I like your point about the marketing- and the weakness of the drink to aid in consumption. Certainly, the most mass produced and marketed beers are the most pissy and tasteless. Bud is more like the "witless and feckless pleb of beers." And the corporation is utterly vile in the way it treats smaller competitors.

Maybe the bitterness in the south is due to the water supply?

I went to a beer festival in Chesterfield on Friday. Mainly Sheffield and other South Yorkshire brews. I had me one called St Petersburg which was 7.7%ABV

I hear there are a lot of micro brewers in the US now. They're into their home brewing too- I don't blame them with the shite they have in their pubs.
Anyway, let us know how you find it fella.

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Old May 22nd, 2006, 11:53 PM   #147
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I think that my days of Stella Adventures (waking up in the strangest of places, with the strangest of new friends) are best left to my younger days.
I take it you've given the YMCA your months notice then?

It'll probably end up in both cask and keg variants, the same way the IPA and Finest Lager has. Keg to get their foot in the door at chain pubs/bars and cask for the enthusiasts who like fine drink.
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Old May 23rd, 2006, 12:08 AM   #148
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Awayo, have a good trip, and remember to keep us posted as you "hop" from bar to bar
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I'm not a huge fan of stout. Although I'm glad Cains is adopting an aggressive policy and fighting its corner in many different style of beer.

There are much better stouts than Guiness and Caffreys IMO. Will this be cask conditioned?
Tried my first pint of Cains MILD at the Docs last saturday, most enjoyable
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Old May 23rd, 2006, 12:18 AM   #150
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The pity is that most of the famous American beer names sound Germanic (Miller=Mueller, Schiltz, Budweiser, Anheuser-Busch) as these breweries were set up by German immigrants in the US, several in the Milwaukee area, hence the city's nickname.

The original German-brewed Bud, Miller, etc., must have been good beers, brewed the German way. Unforntunately Prohibition wiped out most of the US brewing industry, allowing a small number of big corporations, large enought to survive on other business whilst alcohol was illegal, to consolidate the market into a near monopoly situation where they could get away with brewing the lowest-demonator beers, such as Bud (not even techically a beer, as you say, Blabs: beer does NOT contain rice, ffs!) backed up by megamarketing.

Before Prohibition the US had hundreds of breweries I've heard. Still now that microbrewers have gotten popular in the US (more so than here, as it happens) there's some great beers to be had, although they are usually, but not always, keg.

I had a surreal experience of downing a pint of mild in sitting outside a restaurant in in a blazing Denver August afternoon a few years back. It's difficult to get mild back in the uk, nowadays.

I'll report back on my findings this time, for sure.
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Old May 23rd, 2006, 12:22 AM   #151
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I take it you've given the YMCA your months notice then?
How'd you think I ended up here then? I had a good life, a nice house, wife, kids, Ford Mondeo. Then Stella came into my life and things just haven't been the same since.

Stella, she's lovely.
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Old May 23rd, 2006, 12:22 AM   #152
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. It's difficult to get mild back in the uk, nowadays.

I'll report back on my findings this time, for sure.
See you at the Docs Awayo, my treat a pint of Cains best Mild

What have I said, me buying beer, I`m off
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Awayo, have a good trip, and remember to keep us posted as you "hop" from bar to bar
Cheers Wooders. I might be able to make the odd post from my WI location. In another stark contrast to my regular abode, I'm staying in the swanky-sounding Hyatt Regency Hotel (rotating restaurant, check it out!), so it'll have wifi intrynet access I reckon.
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Cheers Wooders. I might be able to make the odd post from my WI location. In another stark contrast to my regular abode, I'm staying in the swanky-sounding Hyatt Regency Hotel (rotating restaurant, check it out!), so it'll have wifi intrynet access I reckon.
How posh, "carry your bag ,sir" Better than a DHSS Hostel ???
Let us know when your can make it back for a walk-about ?
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Old May 23rd, 2006, 12:40 AM   #155
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My Dad drinks Brown (+) Mild- apparently he is one of the last of em left.
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Brown-mild works tastewise! Try it out sometime. Also, Brown-bitter. My dad tells me that these sorts of combos were popular in the old days as the ale in pubs was often the pits. Adding some sweet brown, bottled stuff made it just about drinkable.

Anyone else tried that 70s retro team-up of one half bitter, one half lager - "golden"? Truly horrid.

Wasn't black and tan (guinness and brown ale?) the Liverpool signature drink back in the old days (old timers?)?

I wish I was back in Liverpool, Liverpool Town where I was born.

There ain't no trees, no scented breeze, no fields of waving corn

But there's lots of girls with peroxide curls and the black-and-
tan
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With six in a bed by the old pierhead and it's Liverpool Town for me.


See you chaps at the next Liverpool meet up, I hope.
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Brown-mild works tastewise! Try it out sometime. Also, Brown-bitter. My dad tells me that these sorts of combos were popular in the old days as the ale in pubs was often the pits. Adding some sweet brown, bottled stuff made it just about drinkable.

See you chaps at the next Liverpool meet up, I hope.
Your Dad was correct, I in my youth drank ,Brown mixed which was half of bitter in a pint glass complete with a bottle of brown, you always seemed to get more than a pint. But in the south (London) they would first pour the brown ale into a pint mug then top it up with bitter= BIG FROTHY HEAD =LESS THAN A PINT
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Cheers lads, given me some great ideas for next time I'm down the old boozer. Brown/Mild combo sounds a given.

Dr Duncans is a great pub, it must be said. Cracking ceiling too.

Cains Stout- will have to try that. Should suit those faces Orange and Green as mentioned in the above song.
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Brown Mix (or brown bitter as I used to call it.. mix being mild) is a lovely drink, but more than a few gives you the terrible shits!
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Talking Talk about the wind in the willows.

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Brown Mix (or brown bitter as I used to call it.. mix being mild) is a lovely drink, but more than a few gives you the terrible shits!
My sister and brother both had part time jobs in the pubs and clubs of Liverpool, Pink Parrot, Wooky Hollow etc etc, and I was 12 and 11 years younger respectively.....(How well do I remember the smell of Spanish Omellets wafting up the stairs late at night and waking up with my head in a bag of chips!!!!)

At one time my brother was also a bar man in a pub at the end of the road (well Lane actually on the avenue! )

but also liked to drink `Higsons` beer and we shared a bedroom.

I didn`t want to grow up believe me

Talk about wind in the willows.



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