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Old August 9th, 2017, 06:05 PM   #2341
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We need to try imagining it for real

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Old August 9th, 2017, 06:10 PM   #2342
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Does it show a 1.3 KM high structure here? Unless you mint it to be beside ESB
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Old August 9th, 2017, 07:31 PM   #2343
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I think even Central Park is not big enough to build this monster!


And, the Middle East or China are more likely locations for such high building/structure.
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Old August 9th, 2017, 08:05 PM   #2344
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So since everyone is comparing Dubai Creek Tower's dimensions to Manhattan, I went ahead and drew the outline of the Creek Towers plot around the World Trade Center in NYC in order to visualise the construction area's scale

It's impressive indeed to see it swallow up the whole WTC development when you keep in mind that only one single tower needs this amount of space Sorry for my quick drawing skills btw

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Old August 9th, 2017, 11:32 PM   #2345
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I cant cant cant wait actually
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Old August 10th, 2017, 01:16 PM   #2346
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Old August 10th, 2017, 01:32 PM   #2347
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Does Emaar have any other image update apart from this one! We need new ones
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Old August 10th, 2017, 03:10 PM   #2348
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Yes.
Progress seems slow at the moment.


On the last picture, we only see the heads of the barette piles.
No activities yet for te formwork of the towers' foundation.
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Old August 10th, 2017, 03:11 PM   #2349
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Yes.
Progress seems slow at the moment.


On the last picture, we only see the heads of the barette piles.
No activities yet for te formwork of the towers' foundation.
I'm sorry to disappoint you but THIS IS OLD ! dating back to first of July
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Old August 10th, 2017, 05:02 PM   #2350
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Oh God! That thing is such a gem!This is on my bucket list for sure now.

Excuse me, but when is this slated for completion?I need to buy a ticket to Dubai after.
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Old August 10th, 2017, 05:44 PM   #2351
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I am not sure how to embed facebook vids over here but here is a video I just took in Dubai Mall of the light show they have for it. Now imagine it on a 1300m structure maKe sure you watch in HD

https://www.facebook.com/gaby.nassar...06358166042624
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Old August 12th, 2017, 03:38 AM   #2352
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Look at that footprint. I'm really confused how 2/3 of this tower can be left empty. That would actually be dangerous. Who would maintain all that space? Most skyscrapers are maintained by the renters who do daily and weekly upkeep of their properties. If that much space is left unoccupied, the building owner would need an army of cleaners and maintenance workers, and with only a few floors bringing them income, there is no way they could keep up the costs. The owner will lose hundreds of millions a year if the entire building is not occupied. I'm really confused by this.
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Old August 12th, 2017, 09:09 AM   #2353
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Sure it will be expensive maintaining this tower, but look at other similar examples around the world. Check out this picture of the 634 meter Tokyo Skytree:

http://nihonniikimashou.com/wp-conte.../Skytree-5.jpg
It looks like less than 1/3 of the footprint of the tower is taken up by the core containing a stairwell and the elevator shafts, so there is a lot of space between that and the complex web of steel girders. It looks to me as if the Dubai Creek Tower might actually be easier to maintain since they can build floors between the cladding and the core for easy maintenance, while the Skytree only has girders connecting the trusses to the core. I'm sure that the Skytree was built to be profitable, so this tower will be as well. The only issue I see that would cost a lot of money is the cable maintenance, it will be very difficult to maintain or replace these cables, but Emaar most likely have thought about that as well.
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Old August 12th, 2017, 11:36 AM   #2354
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looks huge in New York! I will made a London version... stay tuned
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Old August 12th, 2017, 12:00 PM   #2355
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Remember guys we still don't know the floor count on this one .. for all we know Emaar might add legit floors all over it
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Old August 12th, 2017, 12:03 PM   #2356
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Remember guys we still don't know the floor count on this one .. for all we know Emaar might add legit floors all over it
Made me think of BT Tower, i never knew it had actual floors in it!

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Old August 12th, 2017, 12:04 PM   #2357
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Anyway, while we are still comparing it with real cities, here is a visualization I just made of the tower smack in the middle of the City of London!



I know, its not even as big as it should be! in this version it rises to about 1000m - I just couldn't make myself push it any further.
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Old August 12th, 2017, 02:36 PM   #2358
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That looks crazy!
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Old August 12th, 2017, 02:48 PM   #2359
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Look at that footprint. I'm really confused how 2/3 of this tower can be left empty. That would actually be dangerous. Who would maintain all that space? Most skyscrapers are maintained by the renters who do daily and weekly upkeep of their properties. If that much space is left unoccupied, the building owner would need an army of cleaners and maintenance workers, and with only a few floors bringing them income, there is no way they could keep up the costs. The owner will lose hundreds of millions a year if the entire building is not occupied. I'm really confused by this.
This is where the developer's (Emaar) business acumen exceeds us average joes. The Creek Tower is built to be a loss leader, a very well known marketing concept. It will draw insane amounts of publicity for the surrounding apartments (which Emaar will sell at a fat profit), the surrounding hotels (which Emaar Hospitality owns), and most of all the almighty Creek Harbour Mall (yep Emaar Malls owns it too).

If the Burj Khalifa + Dubai Mall strategy is an indication, the profits from the surrounding businesses will be more than enough to cover the losses incurred by the Creek Tower. The Dubai Mall is the world's largest mall by total area and the world's most visited mall (~80million footfall in the year of 2016), with vacancy constantly being <4%. In order to lease any space in the mall, all tenants must have profit sharing agreements with Emaar on top of their standard rents. Don't forget Burj Khalifa's observation deck charges from $30 to $140 per person, add in the perennial queue just to get up there, it shows how much money they're rolling in from these megaprojects.
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Old August 12th, 2017, 04:59 PM   #2360
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@Scion nailed it, you have to look at the forest and not at the tree, the body and not the individual cell. The tower alone means nothing financially, I mean, it can look like an unsustainable asset, but if Dubai Creek is successful the fact that this individual building by its own does not look profitable will mean nothing. This will definitely have a contribution marging to other operations in the new district.
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