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Old April 28th, 2006, 11:41 PM   #1
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Notre Dame de Paris - a never completed cathedral?

Is Notre Dame de Paris a cathedral, which was never completed? Or why do their towers not have a top similiar to Cologne Cathedral or Ulm Münster?
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Old April 28th, 2006, 11:49 PM   #2
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I believe it was supposed to have that kind of top, but it was never done. Why, I don't know.
I remember not long ago somebody proposed to complete the top, for a temporary exhibit.
Either that or I must have been dreaming
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Old April 29th, 2006, 06:18 AM   #3
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Actually, Reims and Aminens feature the same sort of top, so I do not know if that was really in the original plans...
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Amiens:

Sens (obviously not as planned):

Bourges, considered as the top of the art, has a small roof on the top:

Chartres, with two nice "fleches" (names of these towers, means arrow)
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Old April 29th, 2006, 06:20 AM   #4
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A cathedral is never really completed!

I have read some info about Viollet le duc. This architect restored the cathedral during the 19th century, and wanted to add some top like in Cologne or Strasbourg because for him "it was not finished".
I didn't manage to find again this piece of information, but i believe adding tops above cathedrals became fashionable after Notre Dame de Paris has been drawn.

Are there any specialists here?
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Old April 29th, 2006, 06:27 AM   #5
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A cathedral is never really completed!

I have read some info about Viollet le duc. This architect restored the cathedral during the 19th century, and wanted to add some top like in Cologne or Strasbourg because for him "it was not finished".
I didn't manage to find again this piece of information, but i believe adding tops above cathedrals became fashionable after Notre Dame de Paris has been drawn.

Are there any specialists here?
True, he built the black arrow in the middle of Notre Dame, its highest point.
That feature got damaged by the Hurricane in decembre 1999.

One story: When the facade was cleaned, in the 90's, historians found out they couldn't identify one of the kings in front of the church. They discovered it was this 19th century architect, Viollet le Duc, that had his head put instead of a king, without anybody noticing it!

The fleche is the big tall thing in black!
Eversince, parisians considered Notre Dame as completed.
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Old April 29th, 2006, 12:38 PM   #6
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Chartres, with two nice "fleches" (names of these towers, means arrow)
An architectural "flèche" is called a spire in English.
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Old April 29th, 2006, 07:48 PM   #7
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this is a sketch from Viollet-Leduc (1863) :
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Old April 29th, 2006, 08:47 PM   #8
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Perhaps Notre Dame de Paris was never completed, because the plans were lost and it was declared for complete in order to hide the blamage!
who knows...
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Old April 29th, 2006, 08:52 PM   #9
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You're surely right !!
(but why no one discovered that secret before you ?? )
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Old May 1st, 2006, 07:58 AM   #10
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Quote:
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An architectural "flèche" is called a spire in English.
Franchement, pour avoir lu autant ssc et avoir vecu 5 ans en pays anglophone, je vais me cacher
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Perhaps Notre Dame de Paris was never completed, because the plans were lost and it was declared for complete in order to hide the blamage!
who knows...
Shocking discovery! I only read that the architect "completed the cathedral", he possibly didnt complete the completion. damn.
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Ok, give up! I am going to from the top of Notre Dame...
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Old May 19th, 2006, 07:10 PM   #11
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Quote:
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this is a sketch from Viollet-Leduc (1863) :
This picture is very similir to the sketch from Leduc:



Is the Cathedral of Burgos
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Old May 19th, 2006, 10:48 PM   #12
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c du o de notre dame que kasimodo et l'archidiacre a vu la pendaison de smeralada
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Old May 22nd, 2006, 07:55 AM   #13
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il devait au moment des plans de ND se voir construire deux fleches octogonales pour ND, amenant la hauteur vers les 130-140m. al la place des 60m actuels. pas d'argent peut-etre pour la finir ou arret a cause de l'esthetique reussie ?
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Old May 25th, 2006, 11:40 AM   #14
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ou peut etre des difficultes techniques?.
Pour qq infos sur l'histoire de ND, voir ce site .
Elle a ete abandonnee en 1240.
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Old May 25th, 2006, 10:15 PM   #15
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peut-etre un probleme de poids ???
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Old May 25th, 2006, 11:42 PM   #16
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A Nancy, Strasbourg et ailleurs, du Moyen âge à nos jours, plusieurs édifices religieux n'ont reçu qu'une seule tour à cause de problèmes de stabilité du sol...
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Old May 29th, 2006, 08:08 AM   #17
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oui le plus bel exemple est la cathedrale de strasbourg, ils ont commencé a construire la seconde tour, et l'edifice est devenu instable...donc ils l'ont retiree.
ou alors a beauvais, la fleche (la plus haute du monde a l'epoque) est tombee car la structure etait insuffisante.
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