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Old January 7th, 2018, 12:56 PM   #7841
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I was about to write a post about it.

In La Rioja, the AP-68 in Haro and the A-12 near Nájera have been blocked for several hours: http://www.larioja.com/la-rioja/temp...142040-nt.html



Also the N-1 in Gipuzkoa, the A-15 in Navarre, the A-1 in Somosierra (Madrid), the AP-51 in Ávila and AP-61 in Segovia have been closed.

http://www.noticiasdealava.com/2018/...s-en-gipuzkoa-


Authorities have been warning about this all week. They recommended not to take the car unless absolutely necessary. But of course almost nobody followed their recommendations and now everyone on Twitter is blaming them for not keeping the roads clean from snow.

I dread to think what could happen if we ever get a real snow storm like the US East Coast.
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Old January 7th, 2018, 04:22 PM   #7842
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Yesterday was the second time i have had to drive with snow in the road. (first time was going to ski resort in Sierra Nevada, so that really don't count). At least all the driver were inteligent enough to reduce the speed to 60-70 kms in the 10kms between Antequera and the pass of "Las Pedrizas" in the A-45 going to Malaga. Later in Malaga all the traffic displays were telling that the A-92 in "La Mora" pass (near 1400 m high) was closed and that to go east use the coastal A-7.
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Old January 7th, 2018, 06:42 PM   #7843
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In the case of a tolled motorway, company can be extremely fined if not able to drive although snow was heavy. By contract they have to assure driving even if snowing.

AP-6 has 30 snow-trucks as has read, and 6 more where sent from Fomento but weren't enough. It was a special situation... but they must assure it (and should you crash due to ice, it is motorway problem, you have payed to have a motorway where to drive 120...)
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Old January 8th, 2018, 03:43 PM   #7844
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N-432 Zafra

Fomento released the documents for the 8 kilometer long bypass of Zafra (Badajoz province). It is part of N-432. It was planned that N-432 would be replaced by A-81, however the Zafra bypass will be a two-lane road. I think the chances for A-81 have become pretty slim.

Documents: http://www.fomento.gob.es/MFOM/LANG_...10/default.htm

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Old January 8th, 2018, 05:37 PM   #7845
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In the case of a tolled motorway, company can be extremely fined if not able to drive although snow was heavy. By contract they have to assure driving even if snowing.

AP-6 has 30 snow-trucks as has read, and 6 more where sent from Fomento but weren't enough. It was a special situation... but they must assure it (and should you crash due to ice, it is motorway problem, you have payed to have a motorway where to drive 120...)

Do not complaint.


In Portugal, when it snows the authorities (police and road national company) immediality cut the roads whatever it is a toll motorway, a national road or even the only acess road to a town!!


Different ideas!!
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Old January 9th, 2018, 01:28 AM   #7846
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Minister has been first to complaint. Seems serious.

As has heard, one lane was without snow for a while and all cars halted in the opposite direction. They remained up to 13 hours.

I reckon that provide they had cut off entry to motorway (only possible road would be through mountain pass and guess even no cars will try, or all problem will be in minister side) fine would be lower, but the problem was they knew that motorway was down and let cars entry into motorway.

In a motorway with exits every 4-6 km for instance, you can take first one possible and turn back. In that motorway there aren't many locations where to make an U turn


And... they weren't ready for this kind of problems because they pointed they didn't have an emergency plan.


High speed trains reduced to 160 km/h in that area those days as usual when they run over snow
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Old January 10th, 2018, 03:47 PM   #7847
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A-23

I found this interesting overview of A-23 when it was under construction. This overview was published on 20 October 2005, when the 63 kilometer segment from Santa Eulalia to Sarrión opened to traffic.

I find it interesting that the section immediately south of Zaragoza did not open until 2005. You'd think that as a major access route into Zaragoza for commuters from the south, A-23 would've been a product of the 1990s, like Zaragoza - Huesca.

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Old January 10th, 2018, 04:20 PM   #7848
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I find it interesting that the section immediately south of Zaragoza did not open until 2005. You'd think that as a major access route into Zaragoza for commuters from the south, A-23 would've been a product of the 1990s, like Zaragoza - Huesca.
The N-330 was already a dual carriageway from Cadrete to Zaragoza at least since the mid 1990s, so I guess they dind't consider it a priority.
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Old January 10th, 2018, 04:41 PM   #7849
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There were three sections opening that day: Sarrion to Escandon pass summit to Teruel to Santa Eulalia. And as Highway89 pointed out the Botorrita (not Maria de Huerva as stated in the overview)- Z-40 section didn't open until 2005 because N-330 was already doubled since the 90s. I thought that doubled section would have been signed as A-23 for a while like the section North of Zaragoza, but it wasn't.

FYI Torrubia is between Longares and Muel. It's where E07 signs finally disappear (it's a goof South of Zaragoza). I remember seeing a photo occupying a whole page of the regional newspaper Heraldo when the Torrubia-Botorrita section opened in 2006. The last section between Murviedro (i.e. Sagunto) and Zaragoza to open wasn't Paniza-Torrubia, but Calamocha-Romanos, in February 2008. For a year or so traffic had to use A-1506, which was upgraded between Daroca and Romanos to handle the traffic and as result it was the busiest regional road in Aragon in 2007, surpassing all "orange" roads, including A-131 between A-1213 and Huesca (which has since claimed the title back).
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Old January 10th, 2018, 04:53 PM   #7850
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A-23

(Sagunto-Segorbe, do not know)

Zaragoza-Villanueva, 1991
Almudevar-Huesca 1997 with a bottleneck Villanueva-Almudévar
Villanueva-Almudevar, late 1998 and in the same week, works near Calamocha started
2001 Calamocha south-Santa Eulalia (Calamocha-Monreal was ready some months before but not opening until Sta. Eulalia would be a nightmare, therefore, they waited for a while)
2002 (I think) Huesca-Nueno
2005 Zaragoza-Maria de Huerva (as a hint, minister couldn't go to day opening, therefore, it was opened by Govern Delegate in Aragon. His family is from Maria de Huerva and he growned in that village. Therefore, he said, he was double happy to be first person to drive in the motorway. Second hint... it rained second day opened and had first crash. No injuries... but just 24h to have a crash)
2006 Maria de Huerva-Muel south (in March I think)
2007... all streches except Daroca-Calamocha south.
2008 full opening Sagunto-Zaragoza
2011 1 km after Nueno in the gorge (limited to 120 and one week later it was measure for 110...)
and rest, I think that in this thread we can point exact date




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I found this interesting overview of A-23 when it was under construction. This overview was published on 20 October 2005, when the 63 kilometer segment from Santa Eulalia to Sarrión opened to traffic.

I find it interesting that the section immediately south of Zaragoza did not open until 2005. You'd think that as a major access route into Zaragoza for commuters from the south, A-23 would've been a product of the 1990s, like Zaragoza - Huesca.

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Old January 12th, 2018, 06:38 PM   #7851
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A-5 Móstoles

I was looking at A-5 near Móstoles and noticed an old realignment.

At first I thought it was a historic route of A-5 that was later bypassed, like other modernization programmes in Spain. But it appears that it was built for a railroad tunnel under A-5.

However, no imagery actually shows traffic ever using that bypass for the railroad tunnel to be built under the motorway. They show an open pit that was later covered. But was it ever used?

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Old January 12th, 2018, 08:10 PM   #7852
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The railway project between Móstoles and Navalcarnero was abandoned, so I don't know whether the temporary A-5 bypass was ever used or it was just built but never used due to the railway tunnel not being finally built.
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Old January 12th, 2018, 11:03 PM   #7853
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Aha, it appears to be an extension of Cercanías line C-5 to Navalcarnero. I wonder how much money they dumped into it, according to the satellite imagery, they have built some sections of tunnel.

Meanwhile, I was looking into the history of A-6 in the suburbs of Madrid. N-VI opened to traffic with four lanes between Madrid and Las Rozas in 1953, but I don't think it was a controlled-access highway at that time.

According to the ABC archives, the motorway was expanded to six lanes between Puerta de Hierro (near present-day M-30) and Las Rozas in 1966-1967. I wonder if this was the first six-lane motorway in Spain.



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N-230

Fomento released plans for the N-230 upgrade in the Aragón / Catalonia border zone. The preferred alternative is a 40 kilometer upgrade of N-230 from Sopeira to the Vielha Tunnel. The cost is estimated at € 295 million, so that would make it one of the most expensive carretera nacional projects in years.

The preferred alternative will have 8 tunnels and numerous bridges. It will be a single lane carriageway of 10 meters wide (1.5 m shoulder and 3.5 m driving lane) plus an additional lane at grades. It will also be a grade-separated road.

1. A 1710 m long tunnel at Sopeira. This will be the longest tunnel of the upgrade project.


2. It crosses a part of the reservoir and another 1030 meter long tunnel.


3. A bypass of El Pont de Suert.
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Old January 16th, 2018, 04:29 PM   #7855
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That's just one of the two options being considered, the other has longer tunnels (3.1 and 2.2 km respectively). North of El Pont de Suert they are basically the same except for a short section.
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In several Spanish threads all forumers prefer first one. Should we refurbish road for once in life, let's do in forever... and second option, IMHO goes quite near to El Pont de Suert (by the way, I should wanna see maps with more accuracy. Is everybody sure that in the by pass of El Pont de Suert, all road remains in Catalonia?)

https://www.google.es/maps/place/255....7408063?hl=es
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EX-304

EX-304 is part of the 'Ronda Sur' of Plasencia. Google Maps labels it as N-110, but in the field it is only signed as EX-304. N-110 runs concurrent with N-630 on the old route.

The 5 kilometer existing bypass of Plasencia was widened to a dual carriageway as N-110, while the 4 kilometer new segment south of there was built as a new four lane route EX-304.


EX-304 Plasencia-1 by European Roads, on Flickr


EX-304 Plasencia-2 by European Roads, on Flickr


EX-304 Plasencia-3 by European Roads, on Flickr


EX-304 Plasencia-4 by European Roads, on Flickr
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