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Old May 23rd, 2017, 04:04 AM   #7861
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Wow I knew there were transport issues in Green Sq, but I don't think its own airport is a solution :P

In all seriousness though, I caught two full 343s this weekend that were skipping stops due to being over capacity. It recall it happened when I made the trip months ago too with half the pax alighting at Joynton Ave. With more apartments being completed everyday this needs to be a much more frequent service.
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Old May 23rd, 2017, 10:41 AM   #7862
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Any time, any day, 343 buses are packed. Inbound they are usually full by Epsom Road so too bad if you are further up the road in Zetland, Waterloo, Redfern and Surry Hills. They also frequently travel in tandem and even in convoy, but usually still chokkers.
It's the fastest bus route so the one many aim for.
Same people have to get home so same drama going south.
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Old May 23rd, 2017, 10:47 AM   #7863
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EMERALD CITY aka The Gazcorp Site

Council Minutes:

ITEM 8.2

POST EXHIBITION - GAZCORP SITE - GREEN SQUARE - PLANNING PROPOSAL
AND DRAFT AMENDMENT TO SYDNEY DEVELOPMENT CONTROL PLAN 2012
(S116061)

It is resolved that:

(A) Council note the matters raised in response to the public exhibition and public
authority consultation of Planning Proposal: Gazcorp Site (296-298 Botany Road
and 284 Wyndham Street, Alexandria) and draft Sydney Development Control Plan
2012 – Gazcorp Site Amendment, as shown at Attachment E to the subject report;
(B) Council approve Planning Proposal: Gazcorp Site (296-298 Botany Road and 284
Wyndham Street, Alexandria), as shown at Attachment A to the subject report, to be
made as a local environmental plan under section 59 of the Environmental Planning
and Assessment Act 1979;

(C) Council approve draft Sydney Development Control Plan 2012 – Gazcorp Site
Amendment, as shown at Attachment B to the subject report, noting that the
approved development control plan will come into effect on the date of publication of
the subject local environmental plan;

(D) Council note that a Design Excellence Strategy, which requires the approval of the
consent authority, has been incorporated into the draft Sydney Development Control
Plan 2012 – Gazcorp Site Amendment, to guide any future competitive design
process; and

(E) authority be delegated to the Chief Executive Officer to amend the planning proposal
and development control plan to correct any minor errors or omissions prior to the
making of the amendment to the local environmental plan.

Carried unanimously.

Speakers
Mr Ben Craig addressed the meeting of the Planning and Development Committee
(Transport, Heritage and Planning Sub-Committee) on Item 8.2.

****

TRANSLATION: Draft DCP (Development Control Plan) is PASSED.

Now for the Design Competition with fingers crossed for something architecturally exciting and ambitious as it is diagonally across the intersection of Botany Road & Bourke Street/Road from Infinity by Crown.
To truly hold its own it is going to have to be pretty special.
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Old May 24th, 2017, 05:17 AM   #7864
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Thanks to Tony H. on FoVP fb page, I can now identify the site of this amazing shot: it's Sweetacres Park, on Rothschild Av, Cressy St & Mentmore Av, Rosebery.
The huge Meriton project named The Gallery is the construction site on the right/east side of Rothschild Av.
It was driving me bonkers not being able to identify it!
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Old May 24th, 2017, 08:47 AM   #7865
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GREEN SQUARE & WATERLOO ESTATE MODEL

EPSOM PARK ~ ZETLAND

GPARC - GUNYAMA PARK & AQUATIC RECREATION CENTRE
Joynton Av, Zetland Av & George Julius Av.

It is the whitish rectangle with powdery looking 'trees'.
As mentioned recently this has now been approved. As this has been dragging on since the beginning of time, it will be nice to see construction action.


Grey block front and centre is UNO which is now under construction.
Red block on the right is Symphony.
Beige buildings to the right of Zetland Avenue are Victoria Park.
White blocks on Zetland Av indicate size and height of future buildings on the Ausgrid Site - when is Ausgrid moving?


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Old May 25th, 2017, 07:50 AM   #7866
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http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/green-squa...23-gwazy9.html

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I bloody well told you so bloody ages ago!

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MAY 25 2017 - 1:30PM

Green Square is Sydney's 'public transport disaster' even before apartments built

Matt O'Sullivan


When Shelley Simonian began catching city-bound trains from Green Square six years ago she often waited with only a handful of other passengers on the platform.

Nowadays, passengers flood into the station on the Airport Line during the morning peak for trains that are often overflowing before they reach Green Square in Sydney's inner south.

VIDEO: The reason CBD train trips cost more
A quirk from the time of paper tickets means some commuters are unwittingly paying to travel further than the actual distance of their trip.


"It's pretty chocker now, and that is before all these apartments [are built]. I am curious to know what it will look like after that," she said.

While underscoring the growing pressure on Sydney's train network, Green Square risks becoming a congestion choke zone for the entire city because of the extra tens of thousands of people who will call it home over the next decade.

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The number of passengers passing through Green Square station on a week day is already estimated to have more than doubled in a year – from an average of 4810 in 2015 to 9766 last year. And that is before thousands of new apartments are built.

Mathew Hounsell, a researcher at the University of Technology's Institute for Sustainable Futures who did the modelling, said the surge in apartments around Green Square meant the only solution was high-capacity public transport such as light rail. "No transport expert believes that buses can service the demand," he said.

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Old May 25th, 2017, 11:44 AM   #7867
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I live there and catch the train during peak hour, it's completely fine.

Redfern station on the other hand is an absolute nightmare during peak hour (inside the station and the trains themselves).

They just need to add a few more trains during peak hour and we're good to go tbh.
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We've got another 30 to 40,000 people coming in in the next 13 or so years, so it's not going to improve without some major action & more people need to get off the roads whenever possible. We've got a C.21st city trying to fit into a C.19th unplanned road layout.

I've occasionally had to let 2 or 3 trains go by in the peak hour before I could squeeze in so Tired you must be blesséd of the transport gods! Or else I'm cursed!

Whatever the current situation, we must plan for the very near future & the coming population.

Because of the interlocking and interconnection of the entire rail transport system, they can't just add in a few services without major implications elsewhere in the system.
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Old May 25th, 2017, 02:37 PM   #7869
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Not to mention Mascot's growth affects Green Square station too. Any capacity that there is is filled at Mascot first.
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Old May 25th, 2017, 03:53 PM   #7870
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This from July 29, 2015:

https://youtu.be/f2_gqIuMIu4

NB Since then the anticipated population by 2030 has been upped to 61,000+...
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Old May 26th, 2017, 05:17 AM   #7871
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We've got another 30 to 40,000 people coming in in the next 13 or so years, so it's not going to improve without some major action & more people need to get off the roads whenever possible. We've got a C.21st city trying to fit into a C.19th unplanned road layout.

I've occasionally had to let 2 or 3 trains go by in the peak hour before I could squeeze in so Tired you must be blesséd of the transport gods! Or else I'm cursed!

Whatever the current situation, we must plan for the very near future & the coming population.

Because of the interlocking and interconnection of the entire rail transport system, they can't just add in a few services without major implications elsewhere in the system.
As part of the large scale timetable overhaul 2-3 years ago or whenever it was, they added some express trains on the airport line that also run through Green Square. Helped things significantly. I remeber before then there were some cases of waiting for 2-3 trains until you could get on. But I always catch the train between 7:30 and 8:30 now and never an issue. I usually walk towards the end of the platform though.

But yes with population tripling in the area some other plans will need to be made.
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Old May 26th, 2017, 10:56 AM   #7872
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WATERLOO ~ LACHLAN PRECINCT

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Gadigal Av, O'Dea Av, Amelia St & Dyuralya Sq


View from Victoria Park Parade, just back from O'Dea Avenue.


View from O'Dea Avenue & Gadigal Avenue.
South building on O'Dea Avenue is at full height.


From O'Dea Avenue, looking along the west front to the future Gadigal Avenue link.
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