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Old October 15th, 2009, 12:29 AM   #1
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Downing Plaza | Newcastle | 50/45/40/40/30/30m | 18/10/11/11/10/8 Fl | U/C

Downing Plaza

Height: 60m tallest
Floors: 18 tallest
Architect: Ian Simpson
Developer: Downing Developments


Development Details:

- 18 storey building containing a 183 bed hotel and 102 serviced apartments
- 10 storey non-residential educational institution
- Three buildings of 8 to 11 storeys containing 81 student accommodation units
- 5 to 7 storey non-residential educational institution or office building (Superseded)
- 10 storey student accommodation building

Phasing*

Phase 1: NUBS (Block B/ 10 Fl/ U/C)
Phase 2: Student Accommodation (Blocks C,D,E/ 8/10/11 Fl)
Phase 3: Offices (Block F/ 7 Fl) (Superseded) / Student Accommodation (Block F/ 10 Fl)
Phase X: Hotel & Apartments (Block A/ 18 Fl)

*May have changed.


Official description from Downing:

As the largest planning application to be granted in Newcastle for a generation, Downing Plaza signals a high water mark for the city’s regeneration.

The £200 million development is transforming the former Scottish and Newcastle Brewery into six new iconic buildings designed by the acclaimed Ian Simpson Architects. Featuring 200,000 sq ft of offices, a 183-room hotel, a 462-bed student village and extensive retail space, the scheme will form a impressive gateway to Newcastle City Council’s Science Central masterplan.

Downing Plaza has achieved a record-breaking commercial pre-let of 100,000 sq ft with Newcastle University Business School.

http://www.downing.com/mixeduse/show...sp?recordid=88


Downing Plaza Planning Application: http://planningapplications.newcastl...=K3H4HVBS01I00

Sandman Signature Planning Application: http://planningapplications.newcastl...=KTS1DOBS00D00


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Building A

Status: Approved
Height: 60m
Floors: 18
Use: Hotel & Apartments

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Building B

Status: T/O
Height: 45m
Floors: 10
Use: Education
Website: http://www.ncl.ac.uk/nubs/about/faci...ewbuilding.htm

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Building C

Status: Under Construction
Height: 40m
Floors: 11
Use: Student Accommodation
Website: http://www.centrallink.co.uk/

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Building D

Status: T/O
Height: 40m
Floors: 11
Use: Student Accommodation
Website: http://www.centrallink.co.uk/

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Building E

Status: T/O
Height: 30m
Floors: 8
Use: Student Accommodation
Website: http://www.centrallink.co.uk/

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Building F (Superseded)

Status: Approved
Height: 25m
Floors: 7
Use: Office

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Building F

Status: Proposed
Height: 30m
Floors: 10
Use: Student Accommodation

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Sandman Signature

Status: Under Development
Height: 40m
Floors: 11
Use: Hotel

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Latest News:

Work starts on city's £30m student village
May 26 2010 by Peter McCusker, The Journal



WORK has started on the second phase of a £200m scheme designed to breathe new life into the former Scottish and Newcastle Brewery site.

Property group Downing has started construction of a £30m student village at the site in Newcastle city centre as part of its flagship Downing Plaza scheme. Phase one – a 135,00sq ft office building – is already well under way.

The new development, adjacent to St James’ Park football ground and bounded by Wellington Street and Heber Street, will feature 519 en suite student bedrooms, spread across three 10-storey buildings.

An additional 8,000 sq ft of ground-floor retail space will also be created, providing a frontage on to Heber Street.

The student village will be located next to 135,000 sq ft of offices and teaching space, which has been pre-let by Newcastle University Business School.

The scheme is being constructed by Downing’s in-house contracting division, George Downing Construction (GDC), and is scheduled for completion in August 2011, ready for the city’s new student intake the following month.

Paul Houghton, director at Liverpool-based Downing, said: “There’s a clear demand for high-quality student accommodation in Newcastle city centre and Downing Plaza will deliver a safe, fit-for-purpose student cluster in the heart of the city.

“Students make a massive contribution to the cultural, social and economic fabric of a city and the market for student housing is strong and relatively stable, having experienced robust rental growth in the past five years.

“Downing Plaza will provide the perfect base for generations of young people to enjoy the best Newcastle has to offer in terms of education and city living.”

The £200m Downing Plaza scheme is designed to regenerate a four-acre site in Gallowgate, with six buildings designed by Manchester-based architects Ian Simpson.

Future phases of the scheme will include shops, an additional 100,000 sq ft of offices, a 183-bed hotel and a building with 102 serviced apartments.

Newcastle-based storeys:ssp are agents for the scheme. The plaza will act as the gateway to the Science Central area in Gallowgate.

This £500m, 19-acre scheme has been earmarked for research, business and education facilities plus new offices, homes, shops and restaurants.

Canadian developer Northland Properties are also working at the former Gallowgate headquarters of Scottish & Newcastle Breweries where it is creating a 169-room hotel – the Sandman Signature. This building is the last remnant of the Scottish & Newcastle Breweries on the site.

http://www.nebusiness.co.uk/commerci...1140-26519094/

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Old October 15th, 2009, 12:33 AM   #2
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I'm not a fan of downing plaza. With the land they have I think they should move build a new arena there and move all developing business (like the plaza) where the arena is.
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Old October 15th, 2009, 12:34 AM   #3
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How far along is construction? I am guessing they are just doing groundwork at the minute?

It's great news that this is underway, even if the plans are a little underwhelming, but I wish we were replacing the old S&N block. I wonder if there's any images of the reclad knocking around. As far as I can remember, I think someone in the main thread said that it is going to be converted into a Canadian chain hotel.
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Old October 15th, 2009, 12:35 AM   #4
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I'm not a fan of downing plaza. With the land they have I think they should move build a new arena there and move all developing business (like the plaza) where the arena is.
This area is more integrated into the city with better transport links (metro, road, bus, pedestrian) so it makes sense for it to be mixed-use imo. An arena is only ever going to be used a couple of times a week whereas office/student res/apartments etc will be used 24/7 all year round. this land is owned by downing and not the council so it isnt technically part of this mythical 'Science City' project.
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Old October 15th, 2009, 12:41 AM   #5
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This area is more integrated into the city with better transport links (metro, road, bus, pedestrian) so it makes sense for it to be mixed-use imo. An arena is only ever going to be used a couple of times a week whereas office/student res/apartments etc will be used 24/7 all year round. this land is owned by downing and not the council so it isnt technically part of this mythical 'Science City' project.
The MRA doesnt get used every day of the week but the numbers that do go exceed the thousands. I thought the Metro being right outside would be a bigger attraction , also with it being close to Haymarket and Eldon bus station and restaurants nearby. Down at the arena, you have poor bus links, but are right next to the east coast mainline for the business people.

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Old October 15th, 2009, 12:42 AM   #6
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How far along is construction? I am guessing they are just doing groundwork at the minute?

It's great news that this is underway, even if the plans are a little underwhelming, but I wish we were replacing the old S&N block. I wonder if there's any images of the reclad knocking around. As far as I can remember, I think someone in the main thread said that it is going to be converted into a Canadian chain hotel.
Yeah construction is currently just at groundwork stage.

I don't think an application has been put in yet for the refurbishment of the S&N HQ, but when it is I guess thats when we'll get to see what it will look like. It is going to be a Sandman Signature hotel and I believe it will be the first of its brand in the UK.
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Old October 15th, 2009, 05:13 AM   #7
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These photo's were taken on 22nd September 2009 - will try to take some updated one's soon



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Old October 15th, 2009, 05:15 AM   #8
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Thanks for the pics Ahmed. You really appreciate how steep the site elevation is from that perspective.
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Old October 15th, 2009, 07:19 PM   #9
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Is work going on at the moment in the HQ tower? I noticed last night (I can see it from my kitchen window) that lights were on in the stairwells and a couple of floors.

It would be good if there was something on the St James' Metro station site too with the Metro station beneath as a complement to these schemes and the Wellbar House and Time Central developments.
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Old October 15th, 2009, 07:33 PM   #10
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It would be good if there was something on the St James' Metro station site too with the Metro station beneath as a complement to these schemes and the Wellbar House and Time Central developments.
I agree - but wasn't/isnt a lot of that arrea owned either by NUFC or Freddie S? I recall vaguely that there were hotel/casino plans for thereabouts. And back in ye olde pre-Ashley days they mave have thought that expanding the Gallowgate End to match the two new stands would have been a good idea. That would, presumably, have partly enveloped the metro station.
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Old October 15th, 2009, 07:34 PM   #11
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Yes I think you're right about NUFC or Freddy owning it as I believe they wanted an MGM casino on the site. They were also going to develop the area of the small multi-storey car park at the opposite end of the ground just off Barrack Road into flats but nothing ever happened with that.
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Ashley had been in discussions with NCC for a development on the carpark, and it was slated to include at least one tall building. Obviously that's stalled due to a/ ashley selling up (again - what a dimwit) and b/ the poor market for new builds. Freddy was also looking into building there, first with MGM and later as part of a comprehensive rebuild of the Gallowgate stand which wouldve took capacity to around the 60k-62k margin. he first planned a hotel on the Leazes carpark, look out over the park itself, which i thought looked really smart, and also an office building on the ground of the old supporter's club, which is the open triangular spot on barrack road.
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There's been so many proposed schemes for that area it's ridiculous. I think the very first 'gallowgate masterplan' proposal launched around 2001-2002 included a 18 storey tower. And wasn't that simpson plan for a 60 storey tower for this site as well? Shame there's been so much dithering about becuase there's a real potential to create something like potsdammerplatz here.
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I still think an SJP extension would be good for the city, imgaine if it started now?, it would be complete in time for the 2015 Rugby World Cup, and the 2018 Football World Cup, if we win our bid. Of course though I doubt any new owner would start an extension untill Newcastle United are a Premiership Club once again. like it or not, but Newcastle United and SJP are big players for our city, and having say a 60,000-62,000 seater stadium can only be good for us.
Also even if it was expended, their would still be enough room to build over the Metro.

But the biggest question would be, is it viable to extend the Metro into Science City/ Downing Plaza?
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SJP is already terribly lop sided and unfortunately any further expansion will be severely limited due to the proximity of Leazes Terrace to the east of the ground .. shame
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SJP is already terribly lop sided and unfortunately any further expansion will be severely limited due to the proximity of Leazes Terrace to the east of the ground .. shame
I love St James Park's lopsidedness, it gives it a lot of character and offers some great views across Tyneside from the top of the Leazes and Milbrun stands.
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extending the gallowgate would make the stadium symmetrical and give it a horse-shoe shape, while also retaining the character by leaving the one stand smaller than the rest, a bit like Celtic Park.
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extending the gallowgate would make the stadium symmetrical and give it a horse-shoe shape, while also retaining the character by leaving the one stand smaller than the rest, a bit like Celtic Park.
Yes, it would be like Celtic Park, but also Old Trafford has 3 big stands and one small one, you just don't see it as much, because the TV Camrea's are facing away from it.

Besides, anything beats those bowl flat pack stadiums.
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extending the gallowgate would make the stadium symmetrical and give it a horse-shoe shape, while also retaining the character by leaving the one stand smaller than the rest, a bit like Celtic Park.
Johnny / Chris,

Is this the look you mean?

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