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View Poll Results: Which city do you like as a former Powerhouse?
Chicago IL 10 25.00%
Milwaukee WI 5 12.50%
Detroit MI 11 27.50%
Dayton OH 0 0%
Toledo OH 0 0%
Cleveland OH 5 12.50%
Pittsburgh PA 5 12.50%
Erie PA 0 0%
Buffalo NY 4 10.00%
Rochester NY 0 0%
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Old February 17th, 2005, 04:26 PM   #1
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Rust Belt City?

What is your favorite Rust-Belt / Power-Belt city in the Northeast and Midwest?
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Old February 17th, 2005, 05:01 PM   #2
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Chicago. If not Chicago, then Pittsburgh or Milwaukee.
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Old February 17th, 2005, 05:43 PM   #3
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the poll question is a tad confusing as chicago still remains a formidable powerhouse of industry, commerce, and finance on a national and global scale. yeah, it went through rust-beltitis just like the rest of the great lakes cities, but chicago retained a far greater percentage of its national and international prestige than the others, so i have a hard time seeing chicago as a former powerhouse. it still is a mighty powerhouse.
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Old February 17th, 2005, 07:58 PM   #4
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I voted for Detroit but I really didn't understand the pole question. BuffCity, in the OP, more or less asked what our favorite city was in the rustbelt but I thought the meaning of the pole question was more like, what is your favorite run down city that once was a big powerhouse. That would be Detroit.
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Old February 17th, 2005, 08:09 PM   #5
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It says former powerhouse...so I would imagine the question is what city do you like that was once a powerhouse and perhaps still is or is no longer worthy of that status today.

sorry about the confusion...just pick a city.
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Old February 17th, 2005, 08:16 PM   #6
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It says former powerhouse...so I would imagine the question is what city do you like that was once a powerhouse and perhaps still is or is no longer worthy of that status today.

sorry about the confusion...just pick a city.
No problem and I already did pick and I guess I'll stick with it...Detroit
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Old February 17th, 2005, 10:39 PM   #7
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How is Detroit not a powerhouse? It's fortune 500 companies gross more money than any other city besides New York. It is the center for the automotive industry, and is the leader in high-tech research and development.

I'd say Buffalo or Pittsburgh are the cities that should top this list.
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Old February 18th, 2005, 12:00 AM   #8
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Chicago's not a Rust Belt city. It's above it, still very strong, and getting better. I would love for Detroit to regain its past glory the most, and Buffalo too.
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Old February 18th, 2005, 12:13 AM   #9
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I dont think Rustbelt means the city is "rusty" or dirty, it just refers to the Great lakes steel industry that dominated nearly every one of these cities.

and yes...Chicago too
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Old February 18th, 2005, 06:06 AM   #10
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Buffalo seems like it was a cool city back in the day.
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Old February 18th, 2005, 07:25 AM   #11
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Pittsburgh. That steel built our cities.

And Detroit's cars destroyed them.
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Old February 18th, 2005, 08:04 AM   #12
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I don't really understand Chicago being included in there, either. But, imho, Detroit is definitely the greatest former Rust Belt powerhouse. Pittsburgh is second.
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Old February 18th, 2005, 08:08 AM   #13
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chicago is a rust belt city that has been sand blasted becuase it pretty much came out of the decline that the rest of the north is still dealing with.

detroit and buffalo have taken the biggest hit.
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Old February 19th, 2005, 06:12 AM   #14
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chicago is a rust belt city that has been sand blasted becuase it pretty much came out of the decline that the rest of the north is still dealing with.
Are you saying most cities are still in their Rust-Belt era, because I'd have to disagree. Yes you can see the effects of the rust-belt era on the great-lakes cities, but today with the turn around of many of those cities, that history adds to it's gritty charm. (of course that's IMO.)
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Old February 19th, 2005, 06:21 AM   #15
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Detroit.
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Old February 19th, 2005, 08:16 AM   #16
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How can anyone say that Chicago isn't a Rustbelt city? That's ridiculous. "Rustbelt" refers to a region, not a condition.

St. Louis is often grouped with Rustbelt cities as well due to its economic and developmental commonalities.
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Old February 19th, 2005, 10:13 PM   #17
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Chicago is my favorite.
But I also would like to see a rebound in Detroit and Buffalo.
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Old February 20th, 2005, 03:59 AM   #18
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Quote:
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Are you saying most cities are still in their Rust-Belt era, because I'd have to disagree. Yes you can see the effects of the rust-belt era on the great-lakes cities, but today with the turn around of many of those cities, that history adds to it's gritty charm. (of course that's IMO.)

there maybe others but most have not seen the turn-aound as seen with chicago. most are still losing people to the south and i think new york and chicago are the only two major cities who had positive growth. the decline is slowing down considerably, however.
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Old February 20th, 2005, 04:29 AM   #19
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How can anyone say that Chicago isn't a Rustbelt city? That's ridiculous. "Rustbelt" refers to a region, not a condition.

St. Louis is often grouped with Rustbelt cities as well due to its economic and developmental commonalities.
And the reason that region got that name is because of their look and what their major money sources looked like in that region(prodominantly gritty manufacturing and industry related stuff).
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Old February 21st, 2005, 06:45 PM   #20
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What will shock us all...

When these gritty workhorse town convert after death (lol) into tech, bio white collar cities with awsome architecture and the best food.

Chicago is a good example and progress in Cleveland and Milwaukee make places like Detroit, Buffalo and Pittsburgh feel good about the future.
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