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I couldn't find any details in previous posts. But currently you need 4:31 from Wien Praterstern. I don't know if a future Railjet Graz-Wien-Praha would stop there but other than departing from a different location (Hbf instead of Westbahnhof), what exactly would possibly reduce driving time?
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Is it because it stops at less stations on the way or that the railjet can go faster than tradiotional trains?
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To be honest, I have no clue, how they'll do it, but I trust the user Nachalnik. He knows really a lot about all the matters involved here.
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#844 |
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Regarding the Vienna - Prague travel time:
Current travel time from Wien Meidling to Praha is 4h49 (eg dep 12h32- arr 17h21). This applies for most trains. There is just one single train originating at Wien Praterstern with a travel time of 4h31. From 2015 on the travel time from Wien Hbf will be something like 4h15. The reduction is possible due to several different facts: - the current path in Austria (Wien Meidling - Breclav 1h21) has a lot of buffer time, which is necessary for the current timetable structure for the construction period of Vienna main station. This timetable structure was implemented in 2010, when the main construction work started. Before that the travel time from Wien Südbahnhof to Breclav was 57min (without intermediate stops). A similar travel time will be again possible in 2015 between Wien Hbf and Breclav. - stopping time in Breclav can be reduced from 13 to just a few minutes. - this will make a much later departure from Wien Hbf (compared to today's departure time from Wien Meidling) possible, and this enables to connect the Prague-services with the trains from Graz (which currently arrive to Vienna hourly at around the full hour; the timetable south of Vienna from/to Graz probably won't change that much in the near future) and form a 2-hourly line Graz Hbf - Wien Hbf - Praha hl. n.. - the timings between Breclav and Praha probably won't change much as well, but a travel time of 4h15 (maybe 4h10 after some ongoing track renovation works in Czech Republic will be finished) is realistic anyway in 2015. In the further future an 160 km/h-upgrade of the line from Vienna to Breclav as well as further upgrades in Czech Reoublic should help to reach a travel time of under 4 hrs. Nachalnik |
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Thanks a lot Nachalnik.
I have one remaining question though. How long did it take before construction started, and did the trains leave from Sued-/Ostbahnhof?
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Travel time was 4h31 in 2009: The usual path wath like this: Wien Südbf .58 Breclav .55/.04 Brno .39/.41 Praha Holesovice .29 Howevere, there were also 2 Pendolino-trains with a travel time of just 4h03 from Wien Südbahnhof to Praha hl n. Wien Südbf 10h58/15h58 - Praha hln 15h01/20h01 (Breclav .55/.57 - Brno .30/.32). But the shorter travel times (enabled by tilting-technology) of the Pendolino-trains didn't really fit into the timetable structure, so they were later replaced by ordinary EC-trains. |
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I dont think the upgrade of Vienna-Breclav line is in the further future. From what i have read, the modernisation is currently underway and will have finished by december this year. That includes (among others) implementation of ETCS L2 and increased speed from 120 to 160km/h.
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No, currently just the implemetation of ETCS is being done. The upgrade to 160 km/h has nothing to do with ETCS (ETCS is not necessary to run at that speed), but requires new tracks and new catenary. This will be done step by step: If tracks on a certain section need to be replaced, they will be replaced by tracks suitable for 160 km/h. But it will take some years, untill this process is finished for the whole line. The 160 km/h-upgrade is not needed for the planned railjet-connection from 12/2014, but will enable a further travel time reduction to less than 50 minutes between Wien Hbf and Breclav. Nachalnik |
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railjet at Salzburg Main Station:
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![]() Oh my god it burns
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![]() ![]() Best looking train at best looking train station! |
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Were so many photo effects really necessary?
Great shot ruined by over-enthusiastic photoshopping
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Quick! Get in this train! We must outrun shockwave from that nuclear explosion in order to survive!
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Does anyone know when they will repair the railway between Bleiburg and the Slovenian border? Trains there drive like 20 km/h.
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Some recent photos of the reconstruction of Graz Hbf:
![]() ![]() ![]() More pics at http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=144 Nachalnik |
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