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Old January 27th, 2012, 02:53 AM   #21
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They haven't trashed anything. That's what universities often look like. At least it is a nice fence.
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Old January 27th, 2012, 02:56 AM   #22
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If all these dorms were in one building, we would have a 40 story tower at least.
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Old January 27th, 2012, 03:19 AM   #23
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You guys are silly. Oh no! More attractive fencing along crappy Kennedy? How dare they! And they are going to tear down an eyesore tire shop and build more? Uh oh.

If only UT wasn't there to provide a buffer between the housing projects and the south of Kennedy crowd....that would be urban.

Not sure what is haphazard about UT's development style...they have had a master plan for years, which projects their growth years into the future. Now USF...that is a joke of a university.

The building across the street is not UT... It's for the RNC. And, gasp, it will have no practical use after the RNC!
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Old January 27th, 2012, 03:24 AM   #24
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Orient the tower E-W, build some storefronts on Kennedy in front of the fence, and lease to businesses of the school's choosing.
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Old January 27th, 2012, 03:49 AM   #25
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I like it, I think the building looks good, but ground retail or even a cafeteria with outdoor seating would make it better.
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Old January 27th, 2012, 04:19 AM   #26
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Not sure what is haphazard about UT's development style...they have had a master plan for years, which projects their growth years into the future.
Explain to me why you would place this building in a north-south orientation in the middle of the block? By doing so, you've nuked the opportunity of ever having any future development on this site... and screwed everyone who lives, works, and visits the city.

Jason's suggestion is exactly what should have been done.
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Old January 27th, 2012, 04:37 AM   #27
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I cant think of many university dorms that have street retail for the public. The rendering does not show where on the lot the building is sitting.
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Old January 27th, 2012, 04:39 AM   #28
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Looking at this map https://www.ut.edu/maps/utmap.html it would appear they are putting the building in the middle of the lot - probably to save the west half of the lot for something later. Not to mention this orientation gives better views.
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Old January 27th, 2012, 02:06 PM   #29
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I cant think of many university dorms that have street retail for the public. The rendering does not show where on the lot the building is sitting.
Sad but true. They do it in the name of security (they can secure the whole building as part of the campus) which is big these days for universities. And I'm not sure what retail they would want there. Food would compete with the school, bars would be out because of the school. Clothing might do well with the built in audience there, but that's tough to land.
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Old January 27th, 2012, 02:08 PM   #30
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Also should be noted that the project to add another level to the Martinez Sports Center has wrapped up. Looks decent for what it was (building on building).
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Old January 27th, 2012, 08:46 PM   #31
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Looking at this map https://www.ut.edu/maps/utmap.html it would appear they are putting the building in the middle of the lot - probably to save the west half of the lot for something later. Not to mention this orientation gives better views.
UT does not own the property on the corner of Kennedy and N Boulevard, so they will likely have to acquire that to build anything else. As I said earlier, they've wasted countless dollars and time (and our ability to have any sort of urban environment west of the river) in doing so, rather than simply planning appropriately.
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Old January 27th, 2012, 10:28 PM   #32
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On the other hand, they have increased the population of the downtown area by adding (and continuing) to increase their resident enrollment. That is definately a plus for a downtown that has potential, but isn't quite there yet.
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Old January 27th, 2012, 11:49 PM   #33
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UT hasn't been known to include retail space in any of their buildings and I agree with smiley, I don't think many dorm or halls around the country have retail on them.

When the school needs a parking garage, which I would expect be soon because the school seems to be increasing with new enrollments every semester, then I hope they consider retail for that.
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Old February 9th, 2012, 09:21 PM   #34
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University of Tampa looks west along Kennedy Boulevard

By JOSH POLTILOVE | The Tampa Tribune
Published: February 09, 2012
Updated: February 09, 2012 - 2:52 PM
The former site of the Valencia Garden restaurant is becoming a residence hall for the University of Tampa.

For the second time in recent weeks, the University of Tampa has announced plans to add onto its campus along Kennedy Boulevard.
University-owned buildings vacated by two Kennedy businesses west of campus will be demolished, making way for future construction, a UT release states.
Complete Auto Remarketing Specialist at 1107 W. Kennedy was knocked down Wednesday, and Olin Mott Tire at 1119 W. Kennedy will be destroyed in coming days, UT spokesman Eric Cardenas said.
The university did not disclose plans for the sites.
"We haven't announced anything because plans may change and we have to get various approvals from the city," Cardenas said.
No timeline for construction was immediately available.
"We have needs for certain things for campus – for co-curricular space, for residence hall space, for academic space," Cardenas said. "We're hoping to use the properties that we own to fill those needs."
Future construction will be consistent with UT's design standards "and would provide an appealing entry into Tampa's downtown," the release states.
In late January the university announced it was about to build the largest-ever residence hall on campus at another site along Kennedy. The residence hall will help meet an increasing demand for student housing, university officials said.
Slated for completion in August 2013, the $38 million structure will be 11 stories high and accommodate 523 students. The building will be on land where the iconic Valencia Garden restaurant once stood.
Site preparation is under way, and the building should begin to go up in April.
The construction comes during a time of record-breaking enrollment at UT. The private university's student body of 6,738 has quadrupled in the past 17 years, and 65 percent of its full-time students live on campus.
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Old February 9th, 2012, 09:33 PM   #35
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And where will the next midrise dorm be built?
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Old February 9th, 2012, 09:47 PM   #36
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Maybe UT can add some ground retail on this one? Too far for being another dorm, but it will be a deadzone for Kennedy between UT and the TGH expansion if it's fenced in or just walls and doors. Maybe the city will listen to me for once.
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Old February 9th, 2012, 11:13 PM   #37
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And where will the next midrise dorm be built?
Look up the old Valencia Garden and you'll know. It's basically on the north side of Kennedy where Fielding Ave terminates.
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Old February 10th, 2012, 01:22 AM   #38
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Since when have UT's design standards ever resulted in anything appealing?
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Old February 10th, 2012, 03:02 AM   #39
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lol! Nice catch... What has that guy been smoking, and has he been doing it on the job?
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Everything UT has put up has been a vast improvement over what was there before.
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