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Old March 21st, 2015, 12:13 AM   #1
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DOWNTOWN TAMPA | Novel Riverwalk | 5 stories | 394 units | topped out

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Old March 21st, 2015, 12:27 AM   #2
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Heyyy... Sounds much better than it initially did.
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Old March 21st, 2015, 12:35 AM   #3
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Wonder where the retail will go? Lining Fortune? Then have parking access on Laurel...
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Old March 21st, 2015, 12:53 AM   #4
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Hey and isn't this actually 6 floors? Obviously the the top floor doesn't have 18ft ceilings? 2 floors inside one unit is still 2 floors.

So far as where the ground floor commercial would go, I would guess either all of it's along Fortune (access to traffic from interstate), or some is on Fortune, and some is up at the NW corner, where it's real close to the riverwalk. (the city should strongly encourage it, actually)
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Old March 21st, 2015, 12:59 AM   #5
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Yeah the article gives conflicting reports on the stories:

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Lincoln Property Co. is in talks with the city to build a 408-unit, five-story apartment building north of the David A. Straz Jr. Center for Performing Arts, on a surface parking lot adjacent to the Barrymore Hotel. The land is owned by New Jersey-based Denholtz Associates, according to county property records.

Named the Aspire, the complex would have six stories of parking with 866 spaces, according to plans Michael Callahan, the city's urban design coordinator, presented to Tampa Bay Real Estate Investment Council Inc. on Wednesday.
However just looking at the renderings it appears that the apartment building itself is six stories. Maybe they meant 5 stories of apartments?
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Old March 21st, 2015, 03:56 AM   #6
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Is this going to be north of Laurel and east of Doyle?
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Old March 21st, 2015, 04:24 AM   #7
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From my understanding north of Fortune, south of Laurel and west of Ashley.
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Old March 21st, 2015, 08:56 AM   #8
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Heyyy... Sounds much better than it initially did.
Yes it does! Even though this could be built taller I guess it's not too bad being short. It won't harm future development interest on the lots east of the site by blocking a lot of views of the river
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Old March 21st, 2015, 09:22 AM   #9
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Honestly it's not the greatest lot in the world with Ashley basically still being a highway there and the way the other apartments were built north of it and being surrounded by the stupid Barrymore Hotel and the Times building. The fact that we're getting 408 units with ground retail is a significant upgrade over anything within two blocks of this.
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Old March 21st, 2015, 09:43 AM   #10
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Very true
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Old March 21st, 2015, 10:51 AM   #11
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I figure they went short so that they can keep rents down in a range where they are attractive to UT students and young professionals looking to share a place. And considering the project has 408 units and 866 parking spaces, it's not like they're expecting the units with 2nd and 3rd bedrooms to filled filled with children.



I think if I was the developer though, I would have had a different vision for the sort of project I would construct in a location with premium access to both the interstate and riverwalk... easy walking distance to the TBPAC(and conservatory), library, soon to be redeveloped Lane Park... With Waterworks Park, the Children's Museum, TMA and Hixon Park just a wee bit farther away. Even Tampa Prep is walking distance. Can you say "family friendly"? And the acreage of the site... And the fact that the site will always have some clear view corridors for decades, even if adjacent properties are redeveloped. I would have made major efforts to acquire the hotel property, and gotten with the city to fix the streets and how the riverwalk is treated. Maybe even give the TBPAC some room to grow.

This project could be worse, but it could also be much better. (and more profitable too)
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Old March 21st, 2015, 11:25 AM   #12
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Yikes, at least the Aspire being built in Tampa looks better than the one in Nashville...

https://www.nashvillepost.com/news/2...rtment_project


I like the look of the Tampa one a lot more.


At least the settling going on now has been lessened some.

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Old March 21st, 2015, 05:21 PM   #13
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Yeah the color scheme of the Nashville one is a bit brash.
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Old March 21st, 2015, 07:11 PM   #14
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I figure they went short so that they can keep rents down in a range where they are attractive to UT students and young professionals looking to share a place. And considering the project has 408 units and 866 parking spaces, it's not like they're expecting the units with 2nd and 3rd bedrooms to filled filled with children.



I think if I was the developer though, I would have had a different vision for the sort of project I would construct in a location with premium access to both the interstate and riverwalk... easy walking distance to the TBPAC(and conservatory), library, soon to be redeveloped Lane Park... With Waterworks Park, the Children's Museum, TMA and Hixon Park just a wee bit farther away. Even Tampa Prep is walking distance. Can you say "family friendly"? And the acreage of the site... And the fact that the site will always have some clear view corridors for decades, even if adjacent properties are redeveloped. I would have made major efforts to acquire the hotel property, and gotten with the city to fix the streets and how the riverwalk is treated. Maybe even give the TBPAC some room to grow.

This project could be worse, but it could also be much better. (and more profitable too)
Yeah, after all the things you pointed out, it doesn't get more family friendly than that.

I wonder if they plan to start this year, nashville's is starting in summer. Oh and I do like the look of our more, still want to see full renders depicting the layout
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Old May 29th, 2015, 05:33 AM   #15
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Shows a larger portion of the building:

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Old May 29th, 2015, 05:40 AM   #16
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I would guess this is an elevation from the north along Laurel.

Notice the apparent curved feature towards the left end of the rendering.
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I do like that the building has 4 different design variations along that length of the building.
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I would guess this is an elevation from the north along Laurel.

Notice the apparent curved feature towards the left end of the rendering.
I think they have to have at least a little bit of retail on Fortune as well. Would be perfect for a restaurant since it is so near the hotel, riverwalk, and the Straz.
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I do like that the building has 4 different design variations along that length of the building.
What would be even better is if they made really different facades to replicate a more historic look of urban areas. Different elevations, styles of exteriors etc.
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Old May 30th, 2015, 01:19 AM   #20
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^Nicer for sure, but not free either. Complicates everything. Design, approval, supply, build out, up keep.

But that doesn't mean the community shouldn't advocate for it. Just need to be aware of the implications.
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