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Old April 20th, 2015, 11:08 PM   #21
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That site isn't much of a risk in really any non-recession market.
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Old April 20th, 2015, 11:30 PM   #22
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^Yeah seriously. Harbour Island is built out (at least until the smash and rebuilds start). Locations like this right on the river next to attractions like UT, the Straz, etc are going to be the next places to brag about where you live. Remember, a riverwalk will now be developed on the west bank of the river too. When this project is redeveloped, it will include a segment. And what will be fronting that riverwalk through downtown on the west side? Let's see, Bayshore Trail, a grocery store, a college, private school, park and magnet school... And then this development. This has the potential to be an exclusive and much sought after address, if they play their cards right. Related has the capital and they have the expertise. Do they have the commitment to Tampa, that they have shown in other places? Tampa needs developers interested in building projects which elevate quality of life, not just elevate their personal fortunes.

Hopefully they're up to something worthy of the location, and aren't just choosing the site based on what their profit matrix spewed out about the sites they had available for acquisition.
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Old April 23rd, 2015, 04:14 PM   #23
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I would think to make that economically viable wthout buying the News Station that it must be a very verticle building because The news tower building is pretty tall plus has an antenna and would make no sense to building a building that can even see over the building next to it. I also wonder what would be the most coveted view, the city or bayshore? My guess would be the city/riverwalk view.
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Old April 23rd, 2015, 07:30 PM   #24
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City view especially since for the most part it will never be obstructed.
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Old June 24th, 2015, 08:33 PM   #25
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8 f'ing stories for a site like this?!?!

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The Related Group has confirmed its plans to redevelop the Tampa Tribune's downtown waterfront real estate into a residential building.

Related, based in South Florida, filed a substantial change request with the city on Wednesday for the Tribune's 4-acre site on South Parker Street.
If that's approved, Related will submit a site plan, said Arturo Pena, a vice president and development manager for the company.

Related is planning an eight-story, 400-unit residential building on the site, Pena said. It is under contract to buy the site from Revolution Capital, the private equity company that purchased the Tribune in 2012.
http://www.bizjournals.com/tampabay/...a-tribune.html
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Old June 24th, 2015, 08:41 PM   #26
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What a joke...
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Old June 24th, 2015, 08:45 PM   #27
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Time to rally the URBN troops!
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Old June 24th, 2015, 08:48 PM   #28
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400 units isn't bad though. What's most important at this site is how it looks at ground level/if there's retail.

More height would've been fun though.

URBN can't really protest to tell developers to build taller just for the sake of height. But if they mess up the street/river interaction, that's another story...
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Old June 24th, 2015, 09:12 PM   #29
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True. Just seems like a waste of construction on land that can accommodate much more. We have had Venu, Trump Tower, HRT, and the current Straz Tower all planned along the river; and then we get this.

But agreed, the interaction with the river and surrounding streets are more important than the height at this time.
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Old June 24th, 2015, 09:26 PM   #30
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True. Just seems like a waste of construction on land that can accommodate much more. We have had Venu, Trump Tower, HRT, and the current Straz Tower all planned along the river; and then we get this.

But agreed, the interaction with the river and surrounding streets are more important than the height at this time.
The three residential projects you named each had less units then this project.
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Old June 24th, 2015, 09:40 PM   #31
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The three residential projects you named each had less units then this project.
My point is just at the height, not criticizing any other aspect of the project. 400 units are great, but 400 units in a 400'+ skyscraper would better.
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Old June 24th, 2015, 09:45 PM   #32
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Obviously what happens on the ground floor in terms of retail, will sway this project a bit in terms of being better or worse than what 8 stories already is.

But the height is certainly disappointing, especially with Related's previous portfolio specifically in Miami/S. FL. area (PierHouse excluded).
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Old June 24th, 2015, 10:03 PM   #33
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Let's just hope, no matter what the height, that they incorporate the Riverwalk expansion into the design with or without retail. Don't make it like the existing section that requires an elevator to get to a property / street.
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Old June 24th, 2015, 10:26 PM   #34
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Obviously what happens on the ground floor in terms of retail, will sway this project a bit in terms of being better or worse than what 8 stories already is.

But the height is certainly disappointing, especially with Related's previous portfolio specifically in Miami/S. FL. area (PierHouse excluded).
Even their Harbour Island project has height to it. With good height, adding penthouses on top would sell immediately with the views you would get with the units. The bay to the south, city skyline and the river to the east, Heights area and UT to the north, and you would have a view to at least Westshore from the top to the west. Those are million dollar views!

And if I was a developer, I would add some height so residents don't have their rooms parallel to the Selmon. Guess we will have to wait for the renders and site plans before really commenting on that.
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Old June 24th, 2015, 10:32 PM   #35
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I don't get it. That location would be great for 500 plus" twin towers with a mixed use base with good street interaction and connection to the river.
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Old June 24th, 2015, 10:41 PM   #36
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Yeah, ground level activity is vital, but I still think this is too low for that lot. The city should be insistent on both.
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Old June 24th, 2015, 11:32 PM   #37
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I do wish TBBJ wouldn't call it a "tower" though.

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I don't get it. That location would be great for 500 plus" twin towers with a mixed use base with good street interaction and connection to the river.
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Old June 24th, 2015, 11:56 PM   #39
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Here's a Tampa Bay Times article on it but of course I'm out of free page views...

http://www.tampabay.com/news/busines...e-site/2234911
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Old June 25th, 2015, 12:01 AM   #40
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I'm 'ok' with the height, based on a few existing factors such as UT and the lower height of the western riverbank in general.

Still, this should at least be in the 15 - 20 IMHO based on the location. Even Hyde Park Towers on Bayshore have more height than this further from downtown.
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