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Old September 4th, 2015, 06:30 PM   #121
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Its only that one block that is somewhat historical. THere rest is garbage with an intermittent old home here and there and since so few and not in good shape its really not worth saving. I usually bitch that developers don't do enough but I think they have made signficant strides to make the place better. I mean its not perfect but definately significantly improved from the original design and I think fairly good use of that space.
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Old September 4th, 2015, 10:24 PM   #122
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The rezoning request is scheduled for 9/10
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Old September 5th, 2015, 03:40 AM   #123
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Blake Casper was at Cafe con Tampa this morning, but I didn't go. I got up early all week, I slept in today.

Anyone else go by chance?
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Old September 5th, 2015, 04:26 AM   #124
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Too bad Cafe con Tampa isn't tomorrow... Would be much more entertaining I bet.

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Old September 5th, 2015, 05:11 AM   #125
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From what I have read Casper/Oxford and company, want to keep the lot at the current zoning correct? Which I have seen to be CG (Commercial General)? Besides the 45' height limit CG zoning permits, what type of development would be the norm for a CG type zoning lot?

Also, it seems like they (Casper/Oxford) were trying to resonate with people by using the Historic Preservation meeting and decision, to rally around their Tampa Deserves Better, to kill this project, rather than using the actual design issues of the actual proposed development.

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Old September 5th, 2015, 08:30 AM   #126
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From what I have read Casper/Oxford and company, want to keep the lot at the current zoning correct? Which I have seen to be CG (Commercial General)? Besides the 45' height limit CG zoning permits, what type of development would be the norm for a CG type zoning lot?
A CG lot a few blocks down Kennedy is currently being developed to be a Dunkin' Donuts with drive thru.

A McDonald's would also be CG. So would a pawn shop.
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Old September 6th, 2015, 05:07 AM   #127
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A McDonald's would also be CG.
Sweet. Casper can add to his collection.

By the way, I noticed someone made a comment on the TDB site asking how many apartments were allowed under the current zoning, to which the following reply was given:

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The current zoning does not allow for any apartments. Our goal is to maintain and grow a walkable commercial destination on Grand Central Avenue, that compliments the character of the existing structures and businesses.
First of all, multi-family is allowed as a special use and can be approved administratively. So, that statement is not exactly accurate.

Second, how is single-use commercial development going to create a walkable corridor? Where exactly do they think people are coming from to frequent those businesses, and how do they think they are getting there?
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Old September 6th, 2015, 07:09 AM   #128
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I'm sure if they have it there way and it becomes a "walkable commercial destination" they will protest the huge parking garage next to it for all their customers, right? Because Tampa deserves better...
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Old September 6th, 2015, 11:25 AM   #129
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It's really strange. I'd be happy if anyone would build 296 residential units in a walking distance to my business.
He stated how successful downtown St. Pete ist. Yet he forgot to mention that all the residential developments in St. Pete offer parking to their owners/tenents as well....
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Old September 9th, 2015, 04:02 AM   #130
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Reminder: Thursday at 6 at City Hall is the rezoning hearing. It's going to get contentious...
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Old September 9th, 2015, 05:03 AM   #131
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Probably not much is going to happen. Though, that remains to be seen
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Old September 9th, 2015, 05:58 AM   #132
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Nothing SHOULD be contentious Thursday since it's just the rezoning but Gas Worx hearing proved at least two council people are willing to use rezonings to kill developments. And OE is rallying out people to this.
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Old September 9th, 2015, 08:51 AM   #133
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Caspers are def pushing people to the rezoning.
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Old September 9th, 2015, 10:01 PM   #134
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To deny this, Council would have to state how the proposed development is not consistent with the comprehensive plan... and I'm not sure how anyone can make that case.
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Old September 9th, 2015, 10:59 PM   #135
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To deny this, Council would have to state how the proposed development is not consistent with the comprehensive plan... and I'm not sure how anyone can make that case.
There will be a lots of people in black t-shirts paid for by Tampa Area McDonalds, this tends to scare politicians and excite media. However, hopefully it'll light a fire under them about code -- not this one development.
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Old September 10th, 2015, 06:19 PM   #136
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Angst-triggering apartments proposed near Oxford Exchange to go in front of city council tonight
Sep 10, 2015, 7:15am EDT

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A South Florida developer's proposal for Grand Central Avenue and a Tampa businessman's crusade against those plans will face off in public tonight.

Altman Development Corp.'s request to rezone 504 Grand Central Ave. to make way for a mixed-use development that includes 296 apartments and 5,000 square feet of retail space will be heard for the first time by Tampa City Council at a Thursday evening meeting.

Tonight's public hearing and vote is the first hurdle that Altman's project, named Altis Grand Central, must clear in the public process. If approved tonight, its rezoning request will move on to a second — and final — reading in front of council.

If council votes the request down tonight, the current zoning will stand. Altman will have to decide if it wants to continue to pursue the rezoning or abandon the project.
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Old September 10th, 2015, 06:33 PM   #137
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^A blow to the Caspers. This was their easiest out to kill the project:

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The rezoning request was also to be heard by the city's historic preservation committee on Tuesday, as the site contains three historic buildings. But the meeting was canceled because the National Register of Historic Places granted a request to reclassify the buildings as "noncontributing," meaning that they no longer "retain historic integrity that reflects their period of significance."
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Old September 10th, 2015, 06:50 PM   #138
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Cecille Stoeltzing Parido: Multifamily residential honors Grand Central history
BY CECILLE STOELTZING PARIDO
Published: September 10, 2015

My family and I have been pioneers of Tampa’s Grand Central block and the surrounding area for over 40 years, and redeveloping this neighborhood has been a labor of love. We support the Altis Grand Central project and look forward to having people living, walking and enjoying our beloved boulevard very soon.

My newlywed parents moved to Crescent Apartments (now known as Howell Hall at the University of Tampa) in 1954. They knew the neighborhood well and could walk to work at their photography business, Bryn-Alan Studios.

In the early 1970s my parents purchased their first building in the area, now better known as the Oxford Exchange.

Our entire family fell in love with Grand Central. My brother and I even attended the University of Tampa. He lived in an apartment on the second floor of what is now known as the Oxford Exchange’s “Commerce Club.” Two years later, I lived in Howell Hall as my parents had.
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Old September 10th, 2015, 08:48 PM   #139
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Old September 10th, 2015, 09:07 PM   #140
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yeah, 'cause it won't have windows or balconies...

That is such an unfair representation. They should be laughed out of the meeting for such a dishonest ploy.
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