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Old December 10th, 2002, 11:42 AM   #1
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CBD > 357 Collins Redevelopment > 133m / 33L / Mixed use

well someone better start this thread. Its confirmed as u/c. The building was too big to demolish, to small a floorplate to get a tenant.

It will be interesting to watch this redevelopment over its different stages. Currently the insides are being gutted.



The front windows are being punched out and the foyer structure is starting to take shape. Starting to place the wooden beams under the first floor ceiling to support the first concrete pour. Cant wait until the tower's extended floorplates start to move upwards. More interesting to me than starting a new tower from scratch.

The best pic we have so far.



Colour plans here sooner or later. Height 133m until told otherwise.
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Old December 10th, 2002, 11:58 AM   #2
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do you remember where we saw the plans ?

was it in the Melbourne Incorporated Documents ? or just a single display

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Old December 10th, 2002, 01:07 PM   #3
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It it going to gain height?
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Old December 10th, 2002, 01:35 PM   #4
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It it going to gain height?
yep, up to roughly the same height as 333 nextdoor (~130m), covering up more of that freaking blank concrete wall on Optus!

w00t ?

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Old December 10th, 2002, 01:37 PM   #5
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WOOT WOOT!




When the colour rendering comes out we'll get a better idea of the place i think! It looks good already however!

I walked past the place the other day, isn't much reoom there for their construction!
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Old December 10th, 2002, 11:57 PM   #6
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Well.. it seems to be official now!!

From todays AFR
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After almost 10 years of sitting vacant, Melbourne's former Stock Exchange House in Collins Street is undergoing redevelopment.

The owner of the rundown 1960s building, Maxicity, will spend up to $100 million on the property. It will include new office, apartment and car-parking space.

There will be a new 22-storey building at the front of the site, linked at each floor to the 1960s structure, which is set well back from the street.

At the back, on Flinders Lane, a six-level building will be replaced with a 34-storey building, including a 10-level car park and 24 more storeys above.


Maxicity bought the empty building in 1994 for $10.85 million. It was previously home of the ASX until the exchange relocated to a new building at 530 Collins Street in the early 1990s. Since that time the owner has had no return from the asset, which has sat almost derelict on its prime CBD location.

Melbourne-based members of the Mah family from Malaysia control Maxicity.

As well as 20,000 square metres of office space, with average floor plates of about 1,700 sq m each, the redevelopment will have up to 100 apartments and 270 car spaces.

The project manager is Baracon Group, with Woods Bagot as architects.
I must say I was a doubter about this one, but this is really great news!! Turning a boring on <100m slab into a shiny glassy 133m gap-filler is fantastic!!

Has this ever happened before?? An existing building substantially increased in height by adding new structures on both sides at different heights???

And 133m would seem to be dead-on correct given the rear part will be 34 stories (@4m per floor) ...
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Old December 11th, 2002, 12:32 AM   #7
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I think I would have prefered this design instead of the one above
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Old December 11th, 2002, 07:26 AM   #8
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It certainly is an interesting design; I think I would've preferred it too. Except for the twisty bits up the top and down the bottom; I dunno At least we're getting a decent glass wall instead.
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Old December 11th, 2002, 08:52 AM   #9
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Re: ---mmm=The official 351-357 Collins (asx) redevelopment thread=mmm---

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The building was too big to demolish, to small a floorplate to get a tenant.
Too big to demolish - bah! Never! The State Office Block (128m) and CAGA House (125m) were demolished in Sydney, and nobody even blinked an eye (except for some weird heritage freaks who wanted to preserve the horrible shoe boxes ).

I understand though because the site is a little bit tight, and seems pretty cool to me as a nicely refurbished and expanded infill tower.
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Old December 11th, 2002, 03:22 PM   #10
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regardless of which design is "better" or "more attractive" - ANYTHING is better than the shiteful facade it has now

full stop

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Old December 21st, 2002, 03:11 PM   #11
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really is travelling now, does anyone know if they've started pouring, or will they do a few floors at once? The latter sounds more economical, not too big a floor plate to pour.

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Old December 21st, 2002, 05:07 PM   #12
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What's the little old building between it and 333 Collins?

Real throwback.

Keep up the snaps, silvermb but your avatar is giving me nightmares - I'll swear the eyes follow me around the room.......

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Old December 21st, 2002, 11:02 PM   #13
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351 - 357 Collins

It aint going to matter what they do with it, as any new design will make it look better.
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Old December 23rd, 2002, 02:52 AM   #14
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Re: 351 - 357 Collins

this looks like an alright building, whats the completion date?
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Old December 23rd, 2002, 07:57 AM   #15
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WOW...VERY nice. Anything that hides that Optus Wall, and adds to Melbourne's density is GREAT!!! A cool design as well.

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Old January 6th, 2003, 02:15 PM   #16
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rendering of the "backside" (Flinders Lane) facade:

courtesy StavrosMelb:



silvermb will be able to back me up here, but I knew the backside (seperate tower or ?) was residential (from the look of the above rendering - completely forgot about the article that A-brain posted above!)!

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Old January 6th, 2003, 05:02 PM   #17
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This one is looking better all the time.
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Old January 6th, 2003, 11:20 PM   #18
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Anything that covers some of the behemoth of Optus has gotta be good. With floorplates jutting out in the Flinders Lane aspect, it's a style you don't often see anymore. Makes sense with the plates acting as shade therefore being energy blah blah.

The first rendering that has been floating about for a while is quite, well, smart! Sheer glass curtain walls making the bookkeeping (or disc-keeping) transparent therefore tenants' business being more accountable j/k. Nice render in itself too.
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Old January 7th, 2003, 02:39 AM   #19
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Not bad at all for a smallie.
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Old January 29th, 2003, 05:18 AM   #20
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A nice little gap filler, to be sure, but I'm actually a little sorry to see Optus's Eastern facade get hidden. Has anybody seen Odyssey 2001? There's something decidedly 'monolithic' about that wall! If you want to talk about ugly blank walls, what about the Eastern face of the building now occupied by Ramada?
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