Building Spires. Should they be counted in a building's height? - Page 13

deepblue01 · June 5th, 2012, 06:01 PM

Looking at the three TV towers, I kind of prefer Canton Tower more since its more elegant and slightly more different in shape than the other two.

KillerZavatar · June 5th, 2012, 09:16 PM

the system on tv towers is weird though, i think for tv towers the only important things are the observation decks and the tip of the tower, for the one in tokyo it seems strange that you put the height so tall although the observation deck is lower.

Amastroi2017 · June 19th, 2012, 04:43 PM

Kanto I need help determining roof height of the Empire State Building. I thought it was 1,250 feet but then I looked at one of your diagrams for buildings in New York and the roof height of 1,250 must be half way up the spire. IMO the roof on the Empire State Building should be where the concrete stops and the metal spire begins.

iloveclassicrock7 · June 19th, 2012, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Amastroi2017

Kanto I need help determining roof height of the Empire State Building. I thought it was 1,250 feet but then I looked at one of your diagrams for buildings in New York and the roof height of 1,250 must be half way up the spire. IMO the roof on the Empire State Building should be where the concrete stops and the metal spire begins.

The metal part has 17 floors in it, and the top one is at the 373 meter mark

Kanto · June 23rd, 2012, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Amastroi2017

Kanto I need help determining roof height of the Empire State Building. I thought it was 1,250 feet but then I looked at one of your diagrams for buildings in New York and the roof height of 1,250 must be half way up the spire. IMO the roof on the Empire State Building should be where the concrete stops and the metal spire begins.

The roof height of the ESB is 381 meters because there is an occupied floor in the steel part. The top occupied floor is at 373 meters (floor slab, so add a few meters for its height and then the few meters of the rest of the section because of its angle and you get 381 meters. ESB doesn't have a spire, only an antenna

CNB30 · June 26th, 2012, 02:38 AM

Discontinuing spire height would be lame. It would end all the excitement in having the tallest building in the world, and would promote boring glass boxes with flat tops on super talls and we would be back to all of this well its the tallest building but not tallest structure crap.

Amastroi2017 · July 1st, 2012, 06:53 AM

Ok here is a list of the tallest buildings in the world according to roof height. I marked the towers that I wasn't 100% sure of their roof height with an (*).

1. Burj Khalifa 2,450 feet
2. Mecca Royal Hotel Clock Tower 1,863 feet
3. Shanghai World Financial Center 1,614 feet
4. International Commerce Centre 1,588 feet
5. Taipei 101 1,469 feet*
6. Willis Tower 1,451 feet
7. Kingkey 100 1,449 feet
8. Guangzhou International Finance Center 1,420 feet*
9. International Finance Centre 1,335 feet
10. 23 Marina 1,296 feet
11. Princess Tower 1,286 feet
12. Zifeng Tower 1,250 feet
13. Empire State Building 1,250 feet
14. Petronas Tower 1 1,242 feet
15. Petronas Tower 2 1,242 feet
16. Jin Mao Tower 1,214 feet*
17. Al Hamra Tower 1,207 feet
18. Trump International Hotel And Tower 1,170 feet
19. Tuntex Sky Tower 1,140 feet
20. Aon Center 1,136 feet
21. John Hancock Center 1,127 feet
22. China World Trade Center III 1,093 feet*
23. Ryugyong Hotel 1,082 feet
24. The Index 1,076 feet*
25. Shun Hing Square 1,066 feet
26. CITIC Plaza 1,056 feet
27. Palais Royale 1,050 feet
28. Nina Tower 1,049 feet*
29. Bank Of China Tower 1,033 feet
30. Rose Tower 1,033 feet*
31. The Pinnacle 1,023 feet
32. Emirates Office Tower 1,020 feet*
33. U.S. Bank Tower 1,018 feet
34. Menara Telekom 1,017 feet
35. Almas Tower 1,017 feet*
36. Pearl River Tower 1,016 feet
37. Central Plaza 1,014 feet
38. JPMorgan Chase Tower 1,002 feet
39. Northeast Asia Trade Tower 1,001 feet*

iloveclassicrock7 · July 1st, 2012, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Amastroi2017

Ok here is a list of the tallest buildings in the world according to roof height. I marked the towers that I wasn't 100% sure of their roof height with an (*).

1. Burj Khalifa 2,450 feet
2. Mecca Royal Hotel Clock Tower 1,863 feet
3. Shanghai World Financial Center 1,614 feet
4. International Commerce Centre 1,588 feet
5. Taipei 101 1,469 feet*
6. Willis Tower 1,451 feet
7. Kingkey 100 1,449 feet
8. Guangzhou International Finance Center 1,420 feet*
9. International Finance Centre 1,335 feet
10. 23 Marina 1,296 feet
11. Princess Tower 1,286 feet
12. Zifeng Tower 1,250 feet
13. Empire State Building 1,250 feet
14. Petronas Tower 1 1,242 feet
15. Petronas Tower 2 1,242 feet
16. Jin Mao Tower 1,214 feet*
17. Al Hamra Tower 1,207 feet
18. Trump International Hotel And Tower 1,170 feet
19. Tuntex Sky Tower 1,140 feet
20. Aon Center 1,136 feet
21. John Hancock Center 1,127 feet
22. China World Trade Center III 1,093 feet*
23. Ryugyong Hotel 1,082 feet
24. The Index 1,076 feet*
25. Shun Hing Square 1,066 feet
26. CITIC Plaza 1,056 feet
27. Palais Royale 1,050 feet
28. Nina Tower 1,049 feet*
29. Bank Of China Tower 1,033 feet
30. Rose Tower 1,033 feet*
31. The Pinnacle 1,023 feet
32. Emirates Office Tower 1,020 feet*
33. U.S. Bank Tower 1,018 feet
34. Menara Telekom 1,017 feet
35. Almas Tower 1,017 feet*
36. Pearl River Tower 1,016 feet
37. Central Plaza 1,014 feet
38. JPMorgan Chase Tower 1,002 feet
39. Northeast Asia Trade Tower 1,001 feet*

Looks pretty good to me

Amastroi2017 · July 5th, 2012, 06:44 AM

I was wondering what the roof height would be of Rose Tower and of The Torch, both in Dubai. CTBUH has a large discrepancy betwen tip/architectural height and top floor for both towers. Rose Tower is interesting because it has a crown and a spire while The Torch looks like a flame at the top.

Kanto · July 5th, 2012, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amastroi2017

Ok here is a list of the tallest buildings in the world according to roof height. I marked the towers that I wasn't 100% sure of their roof height with an (*).

1. Burj Khalifa 2,450 feet
2. Mecca Royal Hotel Clock Tower 1,863 feet
3. Shanghai World Financial Center 1,614 feet
4. International Commerce Centre 1,588 feet
5. Taipei 101 1,469 feet*
6. Willis Tower 1,451 feet
7. Kingkey 100 1,449 feet
8. Guangzhou International Finance Center 1,420 feet*
9. International Finance Centre 1,335 feet
10. 23 Marina 1,296 feet
11. Princess Tower 1,286 feet
12. Zifeng Tower 1,250 feet
13. Empire State Building 1,250 feet
14. Petronas Tower 1 1,242 feet
15. Petronas Tower 2 1,242 feet
16. Jin Mao Tower 1,214 feet*
17. Al Hamra Tower 1,207 feet
18. Trump International Hotel And Tower 1,170 feet
19. Tuntex Sky Tower 1,140 feet
20. Aon Center 1,136 feet
21. John Hancock Center 1,127 feet
22. China World Trade Center III 1,093 feet*
23. Ryugyong Hotel 1,082 feet
24. The Index 1,076 feet*
25. Shun Hing Square 1,066 feet
26. CITIC Plaza 1,056 feet
27. Palais Royale 1,050 feet
28. Nina Tower 1,049 feet*
29. Bank Of China Tower 1,033 feet
30. Rose Tower 1,033 feet*
31. The Pinnacle 1,023 feet
32. Emirates Office Tower 1,020 feet*
33. U.S. Bank Tower 1,018 feet
34. Menara Telekom 1,017 feet
35. Almas Tower 1,017 feet*
36. Pearl River Tower 1,016 feet
37. Central Plaza 1,014 feet
38. JPMorgan Chase Tower 1,002 feet
39. Northeast Asia Trade Tower 1,001 feet*

Awesome job man. Thanks for the list

I will look at Rose Tower and the Torch when I come back from my vacation on Monday

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June 5th, 2012, 06:01 PM	#241
deepblue01 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 816 Likes (Received): 1	Looking at the three TV towers, I kind of prefer Canton Tower more since its more elegant and slightly more different in shape than the other two.

June 5th, 2012, 09:16 PM	#242
KillerZavatar also known as Wally Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Duisburg Posts: 5,052 Likes (Received): 264	the system on tv towers is weird though, i think for tv towers the only important things are the observation decks and the tip of the tower, for the one in tokyo it seems strange that you put the height so tall although the observation deck is lower.

June 19th, 2012, 04:43 PM	#243
Amastroi2017 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Baltimore Posts: 196 Likes (Received): 15	Kanto I need help determining roof height of the Empire State Building. I thought it was 1,250 feet but then I looked at one of your diagrams for buildings in New York and the roof height of 1,250 must be half way up the spire. IMO the roof on the Empire State Building should be where the concrete stops and the metal spire begins.

June 26th, 2012, 02:38 AM	#246
CNB30 centralnatbankbuildingrva Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Richmond va Posts: 1,134 Likes (Received): 32	Discontinuing spire height would be lame. It would end all the excitement in having the tallest building in the world, and would promote boring glass boxes with flat tops on super talls and we would be back to all of this well its the tallest building but not tallest structure crap.

July 1st, 2012, 06:53 AM	#247
Amastroi2017 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Baltimore Posts: 196 Likes (Received): 15	Ok here is a list of the tallest buildings in the world according to roof height. I marked the towers that I wasn't 100% sure of their roof height with an (). 1. Burj Khalifa 2,450 feet 2. Mecca Royal Hotel Clock Tower 1,863 feet 3. Shanghai World Financial Center 1,614 feet 4. International Commerce Centre 1,588 feet 5. Taipei 101 1,469 feet 6. Willis Tower 1,451 feet 7. Kingkey 100 1,449 feet 8. Guangzhou International Finance Center 1,420 feet* 9. International Finance Centre 1,335 feet 10. 23 Marina 1,296 feet 11. Princess Tower 1,286 feet 12. Zifeng Tower 1,250 feet 13. Empire State Building 1,250 feet 14. Petronas Tower 1 1,242 feet 15. Petronas Tower 2 1,242 feet 16. Jin Mao Tower 1,214 feet* 17. Al Hamra Tower 1,207 feet 18. Trump International Hotel And Tower 1,170 feet 19. Tuntex Sky Tower 1,140 feet 20. Aon Center 1,136 feet 21. John Hancock Center 1,127 feet 22. China World Trade Center III 1,093 feet* 23. Ryugyong Hotel 1,082 feet 24. The Index 1,076 feet* 25. Shun Hing Square 1,066 feet 26. CITIC Plaza 1,056 feet 27. Palais Royale 1,050 feet 28. Nina Tower 1,049 feet* 29. Bank Of China Tower 1,033 feet 30. Rose Tower 1,033 feet* 31. The Pinnacle 1,023 feet 32. Emirates Office Tower 1,020 feet* 33. U.S. Bank Tower 1,018 feet 34. Menara Telekom 1,017 feet 35. Almas Tower 1,017 feet* 36. Pearl River Tower 1,016 feet 37. Central Plaza 1,014 feet 38. JPMorgan Chase Tower 1,002 feet 39. Northeast Asia Trade Tower 1,001 feet*

July 5th, 2012, 06:44 AM	#249
Amastroi2017 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Baltimore Posts: 196 Likes (Received): 15	I was wondering what the roof height would be of Rose Tower and of The Torch, both in Dubai. CTBUH has a large discrepancy betwen tip/architectural height and top floor for both towers. Rose Tower is interesting because it has a crown and a spire while The Torch looks like a flame at the top.