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Old September 26th, 2010, 12:09 AM   #1
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New cave paintings discovered - Somaliland

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...-in-somaliland

Pretty interesting.
Somalia (espeically the stable parts) is just waiting to be explored and discovered.
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Old September 26th, 2010, 12:13 AM   #2
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Dr Sada Mire of University College London with some of the ancient art finds at Dhambalin, Somaliland. She headed a local team that discovered almost 100 rock art sites. Photograph: Sada Mire.

Striking prehistoric rock art created up to 5,000 years ago has been discovered at almost 100 sites in Somaliland on the Gulf of Aden in eastern Africa.

A local team headed by Dr Sada Mire, of the Institute of Archaeology at University College London (UCL), made the finds, which include a man on horseback, painted around 4,000 years ago – one of the earliest known depictions of a mounted hunter.

Leaping antelopes, prancing giraffes and snakes poised to strike are among animals and reptiles depicted with astonishing clarity.

Such is the quality of the paintings that at least 10 sites, scattered across semi-desert terrain, are likely to be given World Heritage status.

Mire, who has just become a UN consultant for Somaliland, said: "These are among the best prehistoric paintings in the world.

"Yet Somaliland is a country whose history is totally hidden. With wars, droughts and piracy in Somalia, hardly anyone has researched the archaeology until now. But it's absolutely full of extraordinarily well-preserved rock art."

Dhambalin, about 40 miles from the Red Sea, features horned cattle, sheep and goats painted about 5,000 years ago. The animals have distinctive bands around their backs and bellies, which suggests farming or ritual traditions.

The pictures also depict animals, such as giraffes, no longer found in Somaliland.

Mire, who is Somali-born, has been struck by paintings of "eerie headless creatures". She said: "Sometimes the cattle are represented as necks or horns, a pictorial shorthand that was evidently sufficient to convey meaning."

Other paintings are more mysterious, such as the 2,000-year-old colourful images of the full moon, half-moon and geometric signs at Dawa'aleh. Mire believes these depict the ancient artists' view of the world, time and space.

Somaliland is in the northern part of Somalia, an area slightly larger than England but with a population of just 3.5m. More than half are nomads.

Once part of the Ottoman Empire, it was a British colony from 1884 until 1960. Although it declared itself independent of Somalia in 1991 and has a
separate government, it is yet to be recognised as a separate state.

Mire said: "Whereas Somalia has suffered with an ongoing civil war
and piracy, Somaliland has remained peaceful.

"Yet despite boasting a stable, grass-roots democracy, the country has
not been recognised by the UN and so does not formally exist, leaving
it a breakaway state teetering on the edge of a violent region.

The discovery of the 100 sites follows that of cave paintings at Laas Geel in 2000. For centuries, they were known only to nomads, who believed the site was haunted by evil spirits.

Mire's research study will be published this month in Current World Archaeology.
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Nice one.
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I didn't even know this existed in Somaliland *sighs*

What's with the animal paintings tho? Old time Somali's Pre Islam must have worshipped animals o.O
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In Somalia and the Horn of Africa in general, there is just too much that waits to be discovered. Our region is one of the oldest inhabited parts, its jsut sad enough archeological research isn't being carried out.
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In Somalia and the Horn of Africa in general, there is just too much that waits to be discovered. Our region is one of the oldest inhabited parts, its jsut sad enough archeological research isn't being carried out.
that can be said for all of Africa
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that can be said for all of Africa
East Africa is the oldest inhabited place in Africa. This where they found the oldest human remains there.
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In Somalia and the Horn of Africa in general, there is just too much that waits to be discovered. Our region is one of the oldest inhabited parts, its just sad enough archeological research isn't being carried out.
It is the oldest and the people of the horn of Africa laid the foundations for civilization as a whole.

"We come from the beginning of the nile, where god happily dwell at the foothills of the mountain of the moon"- papyrus of hunefer

That's what the ancient Egyptains said about their origins and Mecca and Medina was part of the Axumite empire. I try to post that information on youtube and all those other sites that try to claim that Egypt wasn't an indigenous African civilization but they always delete it.

Some people can't handle the truth.
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It is the oldest and the people of the horn of Africa laid the foundations for civilization as a whole.

"We come from the beginning of the nile, where god happily dwell at the foothills of the mountain of the moon"- papyrus of hunefer

That's what the ancient Egyptains said about their origins and Mecca and Medina was part of the Axumite empire. I try to post that information on youtube and all those other sites that try to claim that Egypt wasn't an indigenous African civilization but they always delete it.

Some people can't handle the truth.
South Yemen was part of the Axumite Empire not Mecca or Medina
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Old September 28th, 2010, 12:18 AM   #10
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East Africa is the oldest inhabited place in Africa. This where they found the oldest human remains there.
i know this!
was just saying, Africa isn't explored enough archaeologically.
no one doesn't even know shit about African civilization
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i know this!
was just saying, Africa isn't explored enough archaeologically.
no one doesn't even know shit about African civilization
Sorry about that, mate

I agree, I bet there are numerous other civilizations in Africa that are waiting to be discovered
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South Yemen was part of the Axumite Empire not Mecca or Medina
The Koran mentions that an Ethiopian ruler tried to conquer Mecca in the year Mohammad (PBUH) was born, however a war elephant decided to sit down and so the invasion failed.

Doesn't make much sense to me, but the takeaway is that Axum never controlled those parts of Arabia.

Later Mohammad would send his followers to Ethiopia in the first hijra to escape persecution, where the Christian Axumite ruler, Ashama, welcomed them. The Koran claims he later converted to Islam, but I doubt it. However the Muslims were grateful regardless and so the Koran specifically states that that they must respect and protect Ethiopia- which I think I can say they haven't paid too much attention too.
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The Korean mentions that an Ethiopian ruler tried to conquer Mecca in the year Mohammad (PBUH) was born, however a war elephant decided to sit down and so the invasion failed.

Doesn't make much sense to me, but the takeaway is that Axum never controlled those parts of Arabia.

Later Mohammad would send his followers to Ethiopia in the first hijra to escape persecution, where the Christian Axumite ruler, Ashama, welcomed them. The Koran claims he later converted to Islam, but I doubt it. However the Muslims were grateful regardless and so the Koran specifically states that that they must respect and protect Ethiopia- which I think I can say they haven't paid too much attention too.
So what was the point of your post?

South Yemen was part of the Axumite Empire and this is well documented. But Mecca or Medina never were.

That Abyssinia and current Ethiopia are two different things. Muslims are always grateful for the generosity of the King. But since those days Ethiopian Christians have changed their ways. We all saw what the brutal kings especially Haile Selassie did in Oromia/Somali and Afar region during his rule.
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Korean.
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Korean.

Did I really say that? Now I feel stupid.
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Typos are just hilarious sometimes.
One of my professors doesn't know the difference between roster and roaster, so talks of the "class roaster"

Anyway, I'm glad to see African scientists exploring our continent. Maybe we'll get a more balanced presentation of our history as a result. Currently it's a very Eurocentric view that's out there.
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Typos are just hilarious sometimes.
One of my professors doesn't know the difference between roster and roaster, so talks of the "class roaster"
I suppose he's Ethiopian.
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ANYWAYS back to the topic, this is a very interesting development and hopefully with the peace in Somaliland, foreign archeologists don't feel afraid to explore more of the area to see the historical artifacts. The documented history of Somalis before Islam is truly shrouded and minute.

Next time I am in the motherland (which could be a long while), I'm definitely visiting Laas Geel.

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No, thankfully. The one Ethiopian teacher I had (teaching English!), used to say "boz ov zem"
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No, thankfully. The one Ethiopian teacher I had (teaching English!), used to say "boz ov zem"
It took me three times saying that aloud to realize that was "both of them.

Indeed ANYWAYS I will have to visit Somalia one day.
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