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Old February 4th, 2012, 08:24 PM   #6621
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Interesting, a suffixed road number in the Netherlands:

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Old February 4th, 2012, 08:42 PM   #6622
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Interesting, a suffixed road number in the Netherlands:

I though only Italy has them.
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Old February 4th, 2012, 08:55 PM   #6623
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Old February 4th, 2012, 09:23 PM   #6624
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I though only Italy has them.
For The Netherlands: It is our first one
Italy is not the only one, Belgium has them too. A lot of them. For example: a map of the N90z


A list of roads in Belgium can be found here (scroll down)
http://wegnummers.autosnelwegen.nl/wegen/belgie/
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Old February 4th, 2012, 11:22 PM   #6625
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Also in Catalan roads:

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Old February 5th, 2012, 12:05 AM   #6626
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But probably Italy is the only (European) country to have them on motorways.
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Old February 5th, 2012, 12:11 AM   #6627
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Switzerland has many suffixes for motorways numbers. The United Kingdom uses the A1 (M) suffix for A-roads with motorway status. Greece has its weird A8a. But other than that suffixes for motorway numbers are rare indeed.
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Old February 5th, 2012, 12:11 AM   #6628
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But probably Italy is the only (European) country to have them on motorways.
Nope, Belgium strikes again: R5a (Google Maps)



Pics from http://wegnummers.autosnelwegen.nl/wegen/belgie/
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Old February 5th, 2012, 02:15 AM   #6629
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Interesting, a suffixed road number in the Netherlands:
There is an explanation.

N260a used to be N260. Then they built the new Tilburg Outer Ring (west sector) and from that traffic onwards, a small stub around gilze-rijen air base was left alone and now is n260a.

By the way, N260a has a strange feature: an airplane traffic light. It passes too close on a runway's end and they give you red light 150m away so that you don't cross the runway projection for safety reasons (of the car).
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Old February 5th, 2012, 02:32 AM   #6630
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By the way, N260a has a strange feature: an airplane traffic light. It passes too close on a runway's end and they give you red light 150m away so that you don't cross the runway projection for safety reasons (of the car).
I had absolutely no idea that there were traffic lights for that. After a bit of searching, here and here they are
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Old February 5th, 2012, 04:04 AM   #6631
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The United Kingdom uses the A1 (M) suffix for A-roads with motorway status.
Firstly, it's A1(M), not A1 (M). And it's a totally different suffix to the others, as it about legal status, rather than spurs, loops, old routes, etc.
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Old February 5th, 2012, 10:54 AM   #6632
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But probably Italy is the only (European) country to have them on motorways.
No, another example of Catalan roads. See C-31C and C-32B:

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Old February 5th, 2012, 11:15 AM   #6633
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In the UK there is also an "M6Toll".

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By the way, N260a has a strange feature: an airplane traffic light. It passes too close on a runway's end and they give you red light 150m away so that you don't cross the runway projection for safety reasons (of the car).
There is a level crossing also a level crossing here, on a taxiway of an airport. There is another one in the same airport, and a third in an airport to the right.

There was also a level crossing between an aerial ropeway and a road near Oberbozen in Italy, but I can't find the photo anymore.
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Old February 5th, 2012, 01:27 PM   #6634
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Gibraltar wins

We're going really off-topic btw...
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Old February 5th, 2012, 08:42 PM   #6635
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Greece has its weird A8a.
At least and after so many years, this has been solved. Motorway sections are now signed as A8 and other sections are indicated as national road 8a.
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Old February 5th, 2012, 09:13 PM   #6636
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We're going a bit off-topic here, so here are some pics of the A4 Halsteren - Dinteloord U/C:


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a pipe line is being relocated next to the highway, the current one crosses the highway U/C diagonal: Picture of the works southbound:


Same pipe, northbound


From on top of exit Halsteren looking northbound:


The new pipe line currently ends at this farm:


From the same exit looking southbound towards the opened A4


The A4 near the Dassenberg (forest) which hasn't been asphalted yet:


Dassenberg looking north:


Groundworks for the bicycle bridge near Klutsdorp:


Still at de Dassenberg, looking north at the future A4 one the carriageway towards Rotterdam:


From that carriagway there's a steep hill for workers to get on top of the future bicycle bridge:


The private road near de Dassenberg was very slippery, so I left my bike at the beginning. (Yes I took the bike with temperatures that feel like -10)


There's a lower speedlimit on the N259


There's a second site office under construction on the north side of the N259, this explains the lower speedlimit because all the equipment has to cross the N259 to get to the current building site:


At this site there are a lot of machines standing by


N259 near Klutsdorp, the carriageway towards BoZ (looking southbound)


Same spot, crriageway towards Rotterdam looking south


Looking from the N259 near Klutsdorp at the former Nuijten farm:


I didn't go to the farm, so here's a pic from last week there:
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Old February 6th, 2012, 09:25 PM   #6637
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January congestion down 35%

Congestion in January 2012 was down 35 percent compared to the five-year average, according to the Dutch motorist association ANWB. While January is usually the month with the lowest average traffic volumes, traffic congestion was still reduced a lot, especially in the Amsterdam region due to additional highway capacity.

Congestion in February 2012 may be up due to the massive rush hour on February 3rd due to snow.
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Old February 7th, 2012, 02:13 AM   #6638
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(Yes I took the bike with temperatures that feel like -10)
Only dutchmen can do that
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Old February 8th, 2012, 04:01 PM   #6639
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130 km/h

A parliamentary motion about 130 km/h in Dutch parliament was approved. The motion mandates that the speed limit should not be increased if it required measures to comply with limits, these are air quality screens (they look like low sound screens). A couple of million euros is saved by this motion, but it means the speed limit cannot be increased on 68 kilometers of motorway, or 2.7% of the proposed speed limit raises.

The following section cannot be raised without measures;

* A2 Vinkeveen - Tunnel Leidsche Rijn
* A2 Oudenrijn - Nieuwegein
* A12 Gouda - Reeuwijk
* A12 Woerden - Oudenrijn
* A12 Oudenrijn - Bunnik
* A20 Rotterdam
* A27 Lunetten - Houten
* A27 Everdingen - Lexmond

It is projected that the speed limit can be raised on these motorway sections between 2015 and 2020, because air quality gradually improves, but it takes some time.

The actual problems are insignificant. Raising the speed limit from 80 to 100 km/h in Rotterdam, Utrecht and Amsterdam would cause the concentration of NO2 to increase by 0.8 g/m (limit is 40.0) and PM10 by a negligible amount (less than 0.1 g/m), based on studies where no section control is taken into consideration, so the differences would be even smaller in reality. It is projected air quality improves sufficiently in 3 - 8 years that the speed limit can be raised there too.

So unfortunately some urban motorways will keep their low speed limits because of some decimal problems.
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Old February 8th, 2012, 04:23 PM   #6640
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The folly of carbon schemes. We could be a world leader in green electricity from wind, waves, tides and currents. We've already got the geography, all we need is some political guts. We could save a lot of CO2 emissions that way and have cleaner air to an extent that nobody would need to worry about a decimal difference between a maximum speed of 100 versus 130.

Instead we'll all just drive 100 (or worse: 80) and that way, we can keep our coal fired power plants..? It's maddeningly hypocritical and stupid. Don't they read books in parliament?
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