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Old April 18th, 2017, 04:22 PM   #501
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Go check out Google Maps for example, they weren't there at the start of the year.
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Old April 18th, 2017, 08:02 PM   #502
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Reminds me of that line from SNATCH... theres no reaction like a pikey reaction
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Old April 18th, 2017, 08:10 PM   #503
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Well that's a new one
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Old April 18th, 2017, 08:17 PM   #504
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Well if indeed they are there, they've been recognised as an ethnic minority so I suppose they are reallllly untouchable now.

Is there nothing at all that will move them? Perhaps a new place?
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Old April 18th, 2017, 08:57 PM   #505
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They can't just stay there forever, ethnic minority or not. If there's an appetite for them to go - they'll go. When these are developed, they'll move along surely, with a sweetener no doubt.
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Old April 18th, 2017, 09:08 PM   #506
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It will fill up with caravans soon enough once they know DCC will have to pay them off. A lucrative lifestyle indeed.
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Old April 18th, 2017, 10:47 PM   #507
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There's no room to do so, it's used as a car park by lots of people. Authorities should just install some bollards to block off that area from vehicles
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Old April 21st, 2017, 12:18 PM   #508
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It will fill up with caravans soon enough once they know DCC will have to pay them off. A lucrative lifestyle indeed.


This is ridiculous, there is currently one caravan there at the moment and the reason they went there initially is because it was out of the way and run down and no one would bother them and they have been there for a very long time at this stage. I'm sure if they were given 5k they would move on in a flash but I would say what is more likely is they will be asked to move on and will do so voluntarily.


Everyone deserves a place to live no matter how shit and small the place is. A lot of people would be delighted with a box apartment.
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Old April 21st, 2017, 04:42 PM   #509
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That corner residential building across from the tower looks so ridiculous now. Nice planning, DCC, you bunch of incompetents.
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Old April 21st, 2017, 04:58 PM   #510
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Agreed it should be quadruple that at least.
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Old April 22nd, 2017, 03:55 PM   #511
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That corner residential building across from the tower looks so ridiculous now. Nice planning, DCC, you bunch of incompetents.
No doubt that development was originally objected to by some nutter objecting to its "height". "This is Dublin, not Manhattan!"
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Old April 23rd, 2017, 11:35 PM   #512
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That corner residential building across from the tower looks so ridiculous now. Nice planning, DCC, you bunch of incompetents.

500m East from that building there is row of 60 cottages along the quay, this is what "ridiculous" really means:



...with something I was not aware of, and I find hard to believe but google shows it - kind of allotment garden?


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Why do people find it ridiculous that there have been people living in Dublin city for decades? Particularly in areas like the Docklands which were complete wastelands until 10-20 years ago.

I find it ridiculous that so many on here think that redevelopment should happen instantly everywhere in the city, and indeed, I find it ridiculous that people think that kind of rapid redevelopment would actually be a healthy thing for the city.
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...with something I was not aware of, and I find hard to believe but google shows it - kind of allotment garden?
Why is a small allotment garden located beside a park and established housing that hard to believe?
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Old April 24th, 2017, 06:15 PM   #515
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tbf the tiny victoria (?) cottages are relatively high density housing, all things considered.

Its the more modern semis behind them with the massive gardens that should irk!
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Old April 24th, 2017, 06:23 PM   #516
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Why do people find it ridiculous that there have been people living in Dublin city for decades? Particularly in areas like the Docklands which were complete wastelands until 10-20 years ago.

I find it ridiculous that so many on here think that redevelopment should happen instantly everywhere in the city, and indeed, I find it ridiculous that people think that kind of rapid redevelopment would actually be a healthy thing for the city.
I think what we find ridiculous, at least what i found ridiculous, was the Celtic Tiger developments built in the last 15 years by the riverfront which look ridiculous now that we're seeing more substantial developments. There was clearly no joined up thinking. Why didn't they have more ambition 15 years ago?

No-one is talking about uprooting long established communities. However they also do not have an automatic right to block all and sundry around them in a petulant outburst of anti-development fever. Bottom line is Dublin city centre has to be a national resource that generates economic activity for the nation, not their own personal village. Also i've no idea how too much development can be "unhealthy" for any city.
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There was ambition though, but that ambition was subject to economic reality following the crash. It's only now starting to recover. All grand proposals for Zaha Hadid skyscrapers and so on was ambitious albeit based on an inflated property market and easy finance.
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Old April 24th, 2017, 07:16 PM   #518
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I mean lack of ambition from planners, not from developers. If developers had more of a free hand, i'm pretty sure we wouldn't have the chronic shortage of apartments, offices and hotels that we do now. The reason there is not more apartment building in the city centre is down to planners, not developers.
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Old April 24th, 2017, 07:23 PM   #519
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A lot of the ambitious projects that were lined up and mothballed would have been built now if they hadn't spent years going through our ridiculous planning system. That's the really annoying thing and I'd be scared of the same thing happening again. Let's say we have now started to now see ambitious projects again - by the time they have finance and spend two years in planning hell , we could have another recession on our hands.
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Old April 24th, 2017, 08:10 PM   #520
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Why didn't they have more ambition 15 years ago?
There was plenty of ambition from the developers and money to do it. It was the same story with DDDA 15 years ago when they kept imposing ridiculous height restrictions all around the Docklands. A decent ten storey block would be proposed only to be reduced to 5 storeys with setback™.

Several 30+ towers were proposed around the city during the 2000s only to be shot down by DCC or DDDA, and after dithering for years and finally approving some tall buildings, all the money ran out.
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