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Old April 19th, 2017, 01:34 AM   #461
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.

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Old April 21st, 2017, 02:19 PM   #462
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You infuriate me. But mainly because I recognise and agree with much of what you say. I just think the economics need to be taken into account.

I just don't happen to think the objects of your disgust are necessarily as bad as you make out.

I'm just content that we seem to have got over the Sto Render generation.
Apropos of Economics- here's one of my favourite quotes. I have to say that I couldn't put it better myself. Should be framed and on the wall of every planning dept in the country. It also captures another of my views (I repeat it so many times)- that there needs to be a place for the ordinary and by ordinary I don't mean ordinary/bad.
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The Art of Place-Making
Graham Morrison 1999

Originally published : “Brindleyplace -a model for Urban Regeneration’ ( Right Angle Publishing)

The essential business of cities is trade. If through design the successful exchange of ideas, business and culture is made difficult, a city will usually fail and it is with the design of buildings and the spaces they form that so much can be contributed to help us to take advantage of these essential opportunities which the coming together in cities can give us. To make places that support this healthy activity in a city, architecture must be grounded in how things are and in an understanding of how cities work.
While much of what we do necessarily happens inside buildings because we can both modify the environment and make things safe, the spaces between our buildings (its streets, lanes, squares and avenues) must make clear our understanding of where we are and encourage our participation in what the city has to offer. A good building, therefore, is a building which will not only meet the needs of its carefully defined internal brief, but will also acknowledge its inevitable effect on the world outside. The complete urban matrix of a successful city is both shaped and constantly reinvigorated by its buildings, and our consequent enjoyment of the places we inhabit as a community, will depend as much on the depth of consideration given to the design of its buildings as it does on the planning of the places themselves.
All places have a visual order and it is important that each building finds its place in its context. Not every building needs to be extraordinary and very often, the success of places depends on the calm (and reassuring) enjoyment of the straightforward. Convention is easily understood and makes our cities helpfully predictable and without the conventional, the extraordinary could not exist. Equally, uniformity can be relentless and disorientating and spaces need surprise to test and extend our expectations. There is always a fine line, however, between the provocative and the tasteless and between the outrageous and the dull, and for cities to survive generations the making of places must be an art which is circumspect of fashion.
Places also have an economic and social order and it is also important in the design of buildings that the city becomes safe and secure and available and accessible. In successful places, the public realm flows easily between the inside and outside, and buildings designed solely in response to the cautious single use requirements of an institutional investor will often fail to provide the richness of interaction (particularly at street level) which contributes so much to why people want to be there. Buildings that accommodate more than one use have a greater possibility of such a healthy interaction with the city, and places where people work, live and meet in the same location, are less likely to disappoint and fail. A creative legal and financial structure which allows buildings to be designed with such a rich mix of uses can therefore, usefully contribute as much to place making as design itself.
Successful place making depends therefore on an understanding of context, history, scale and proportion as well as on the meeting of needs of the intricate mercantile pressures which caused its being. If there is an art in place making, it should be based as the understanding of the complexities of both the economic as well as the visual order of the city and the confident control of its inherent ambiguities and contradictions. With this in mind, the place makers' skill could be similar to that of a Japanese calligrapher who, as each bold brush stroke is placed on the page, is in fact considering the white space it defines.
PS For myself -I prefer to use the term contempt or derision rather than disgust.

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Old April 21st, 2017, 04:13 PM   #463
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A view from Argyle St today - Motel One making its presence felt
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Old April 21st, 2017, 04:54 PM   #464
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If only The Jumeriah was built and massing out the background. It would help it look a lot more comfortable in the skyline.
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Jumeriah would be a hot site for a prs build wouldnt it.
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Old April 21st, 2017, 06:33 PM   #467
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Such delights as these await...

12_00896_DC-EAST_ELEVATION_ONTO_CENTRAL_STATION-404999 (1) by Roddy, on Flickr
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Looks great, can't wait
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The money went on the west elevation, the other sides look like they've been value engineered big time.
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The money went on the west elevation, the other sides look like they've been value engineered big time.
The whole building was value engineered - admittedly from an original which was pretty awful too.

Ultimately this elevation will speak for itself when complete-reading as dull and gravity bound as it is against the beautiful filigree transparency of Miller & Mathieson's masterpiece. I am perplexed as to why some views in the city are protected and others not. This side will have all the joy and modulation of a young offenders institute, in fact the image I posted above bears a more than a fleeting resemblance to the delightful Moxy.
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