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Old November 4th, 2005, 03:39 AM   #41
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Bollocks!!!

They've made there money back and then some.

And also none off them have any stakes in any other premiership clubs. BECAUSE ITS PROHIBITED BY THE FA!

And its certainlly not documented anywhere that they want to leave, the tabloids sometimes make up stories about David sulivan. the Gold brothers are'nt going anywhere!
David Gold was rumered to be sniffing around West Ham until they got promoted and thier value shot up.

David Sullivan has a stake in Tottenham that doesn't exceed Fa regulations. The Fa are not happy about it but he hasn't broke any rules. He also was activley looking for a buyer last season and was looking for offers of around £6million for his stake. Remember the story the travelling is getting too much. It was bollocks by the way, the answer has more to do with why Karren Brady isn't allowed in the boardroom or directors box on matchdays.

These people between them are worth over £1bn don't you think that they can a amass holdings on the quiet, through trusts and different company's and through and putting in place other shareholders and thus controlling other stakes. The blues are a hobby to these people, the club is not in their blood when they are bored, they will move on.
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Old November 4th, 2005, 11:38 PM   #42
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While there was a climbdown over the number of super casino licenses with just one being granted on an experimental basis, with Blackpool being the favourite. I have seen several reports saying this is all being weaseled out of.
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Old February 9th, 2006, 08:09 PM   #43
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Old June 21st, 2006, 01:21 AM   #44
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I wish this stadium would be built.
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Old June 21st, 2006, 01:42 AM   #45
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It would have made a World Cup bid easier if this great stadium had been built. Superb looking stadium, I hope they one day find a way in Birmingham to build it.
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Old June 21st, 2006, 05:09 PM   #46
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I wouldn't worry too much you know. The goverment is fully committed to bidding for WC 2018, and it just needs the FA's consent which should be announced sometime later this year. And I am positive England will get it, seeing as all the other big European countries have hosted it more recently then England and England will have the best stadiums in Europe by then. So when this WC bid really starts, I am almost sure the talks of building a high capacity stadium in Birmingham will re-awaken again, maybe with a bit of goverment backing. Can't say it will be this design, as that was made with a casino project in mind, but there will almost deffinietly be at least one new stadium in Brum before the WC!

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Old June 22nd, 2006, 04:19 PM   #47
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An unsuitable position for such a post id think since the one thing London lack as a genuinely world class city is a world class concert hall. It doesn’t have anything in the same league as the Symphony Hall.

I'd also disagree with your supremely arrogant post - nobody outside of London and the SE would dream of describe either city is provincial. Britain is perhaps the only English speaking country in which the description of a city of over a million in the city proper would not be met with bemusement.
I think you'll find the Royal Festival Hall redevelopment will fix that. Plus in the Royal Albert Hall (recently refurbished) we have a world famous venue. Additionally, have you been to the Royal Opera House recently? The symphony hall in Brum is great though - all cities in the UK should have something like this.
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Old January 29th, 2007, 04:57 PM   #48
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I thought this thread was about stadiums and not the best or prestifious concert venues.

I doubt the current goverment will back Birmingham in anything nevermind a new stadium. Any news on this project or is it another brummie project truely bummed out?

n.b. Villa Park is a world class stadium
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Old February 4th, 2007, 11:45 PM   #49
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Oh what might have been - seems ironic, but the chosen Manchester site is next too an already-existing stadium - Birmingham would have got a stadium out of the super casino (and more). Considering that they were wanting to make an 'environmental' impact with where the super casino would be situated, they needn't have looked further than the Brum site; it made more sense than the Manchester one, IMHO.
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Old February 5th, 2007, 12:24 AM   #50
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^ More "Super Casinos" will probably be allowed in the next few years, so hopefully Birmingham will get the COBS within the next ten years.
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Old February 5th, 2007, 12:51 AM   #51
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Oh what might have been - seems ironic, but the chosen Manchester site is next too an already-existing stadium - Birmingham would have got a stadium out of the super casino (and more). Considering that they were wanting to make an 'environmental' impact with where the super casino would be situated, they needn't have looked further than the Brum site; it made more sense than the Manchester one, IMHO.
Also there was another site in Manchester to one point. Where was it? Old Trafford. Stadiums seem very popular for these Casinos.
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Old February 13th, 2007, 12:04 PM   #52
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Brum should have realised the answer to that age-old question,

"Which came first the stadium or the casino?"

It seems like is was the stadium...

bugger!!
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Old February 14th, 2007, 04:28 PM   #53
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Brum should have realised the answer to that age-old question,

"Which came first the stadium or the casino?"

It seems like is was the stadium...

bugger!!
You were totally let down by your council. They were told they had an excellent chance if they went for a city centre(ish) proposal, but they put their weight behind Solihull's lame duck bid, just to bail out the failing NEC, even though they were repeatedly told that it was completely the wrong site. They even failed to hedge their bets by submitting their own bid, even though there was nothing to stop them doing so. total muppets.

Birmingham had the perfect case, with the possible exception of the strong opposition that may have come from some parts of the local muslim community.
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Old February 14th, 2007, 04:33 PM   #54
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^ More "Super Casinos" will probably be allowed in the next few years, so hopefully Birmingham will get the COBS within the next ten years.
10 years is optimistic. No more casino licenses in this Parliament - the casino in Manchester would need to be built and up and running for at least one year (opponents would push for longer) before the impact could be properly evaluated. Allow up to a year for an "impact study". Then allow more for another lengthy debate. Then, assuming Brum got its act together and was chosen, you'd probably have at least another year of local debate before any go-head was given. The operator would build the casino first, then a stadium (the plans for which, by the way were developed by Las Vegas Sands, rather than the council). Assume 3 years for a stadium construction.
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Old February 14th, 2007, 04:49 PM   #55
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^I know it's optimistic, but I really want this stadium built and even though it would be difficult to get it built in the timeframe it is possible.
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Old February 15th, 2007, 11:54 AM   #56
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^I know it's optimistic, but I really want this stadium built and even though it would be difficult to get it built in the timeframe it is possible.
Sorry, forgot to mention the remediation of the polluted land the site sits on. Significant amount of that and earth-mving because it's on a steep incline. Factor in another year.

Sorry to put a downer on it. I'm still so disappointed in the council.
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Old February 17th, 2007, 06:02 AM   #57
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The thing that really, REALLY annoys me is the Manchester Casino is in an almost identical situation to our proposal. The only real differance being their stdium was already built.

This basically means that if Birmingham city council had backed the Blues proposal, there was a massive possibilty of landing the licence.

Such a wasted opportunity for the city
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Old February 17th, 2007, 03:21 PM   #58
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With all due respect, do Birmingham City FC really need a 55,000 seater stadium?

Surly 40,000 would be ample enough.
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Old February 17th, 2007, 03:46 PM   #59
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This is one of the differences i think between Birmingham and Manchester city councils. The BCC needs to show more ambition and forward thinking like MCC who are trying to make alot of ground and quite rapidly too. If it doesnt change its ways Manchester may soon pip it into Second city status(although some might say it has done already).
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Old February 17th, 2007, 04:01 PM   #60
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With all due respect, do Birmingham City FC really need a 55,000 seater stadium?

Surly 40,000 would be ample enough.
Good question. Not sure if 55,000 is too much, but I would say 40,000 is definitely not enough for a new stadium. One of the reasons why is because they could probably reach 40k from redeveloping the main stand. A fraction of the cost of a new stadium. Then there's the fact that 40k is less then the 43k at Villa Park.

If a 55k stadium was built with an athletics track, it would surely be the largest in the UK post 2012, unrivalled by any other. If they do go ahead with a new stadium, they should include a track as it would bring in so much revenue.
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