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Old October 13th, 2017, 06:10 PM   #5161
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so the 1st pic is the actual one at Ampang Race Course ?
Yes sir, it is the actual one taken in Ampang Race Course. The photo's caption in the russian website flyingmachines.ru reads as follows:



"A Reminiscence. - An Antoinette monoplane flown by a Dutch pilot at Selangor, Federated Malay States, in 1911."
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Old October 13th, 2017, 06:53 PM   #5162
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where did you get that info sir?
Got the 1898 Batu Road balloon / base jumping? event from this site http://www.redorbit.com/news/busines...t_in_malaysia/

Thanks for the info of the 1894 event at the Chinese Athletic Club. Did Professor Lawrence carried out as what he advertised?
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Old October 14th, 2017, 01:46 PM   #5163
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Just wondering - RAF Kuala Lumpur was opened in 1931, so does anyone here have any pics/articles on it ???

It was opened as the aerodrome for a Flying Club, nothing to do with military.

illuminated flying
Programme during Silver Jubilee of King George V 1935

The road all the way from Bellamy Rd. used to be called Flying Club Road,
1935

Became KL International Airport in 1952.
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Old October 14th, 2017, 03:10 PM   #5164
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Read somewhere it was bombed heavily by the Allies during the final stages of WWII with loads of unexploded ordnance scattered throughout the site lor ???

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Old October 14th, 2017, 08:25 PM   #5165
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Bombed the airstrip and also the locomotive depot (but missed)... basic strategy.

Can't get my head around this article,
Singapore Free Press 1 Dec 1933

Selangor Turf Club had intended to relocate to Sg. Besi ?

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Old October 14th, 2017, 08:38 PM   #5166
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transliteration from Majlis, a Jawi newspaper, dated 21 Mar 1932,

"Daripada perkhabaran yang patut dipercayai, saya faham bahwa pada akhir bulan March ini akan teradunlah sebuah kedai makan yang secara modern di rumah nombor 87 Batu Road, di Kuala Lumpur, yang dipunyai, dijagai dan dilayani oleh orang▓ Melayu, dengan menyandang nama New Selangor Restaurant.
Restoran itu khabarnya akan dialati dengan secara alatan yang menyedapkan pemandangan dan dilengkapi dengan berjenis▓ makanan dan minuman seperti murtabak, mee, beef steak, dan lain▓nya serta nasi dengan berbagai▓ macam kari yang mengejurkan liur.
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the address 87 Batu Road is today more or less opposite Coliseum.

..in the same newspaper, F&N was keen to introduce its new Chap Rimau beer to the Malay segment, lol

translation: Take Tiger Beer after a game. It keeps you strong and healthy.

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Old October 14th, 2017, 09:20 PM   #5167
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transliteration from Majlis, a Jawi newspaper, dated 21 Mar 1932,

"Daripada perkhabaran yang patut dipercayai, saya faham bahwa pada akhir bulan March ini akan teradunlah sebuah kedai makan yang secara modern di rumah nombor 87 Batu Road, di Kuala Lumpur, yang dipunyai, dijagai dan dilayani oleh orang▓ Melayu, dengan menyandang nama New Selangor Restaurant.
Restoran itu khabarnya akan dialati dengan secara alatan yang menyedapkan pemandangan dan dilengkapi dengan berjenis▓ makanan dan minuman seperti murtabak, mee, beef steak, dan lain▓nya serta nasi dengan berbagai▓ macam kari yang mengejarkan liur.
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in the same Malay newspaper, F&N was keen to introduce its new Chap Rimau beer to the Malay segment, lol

translation: Take a Tiger Beer after a game. It keeps you strong and healthy.
The second advert is promoting it for Hari Raya!!!
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Old October 15th, 2017, 09:01 AM   #5168
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The second advert is promoting it for Hari Raya!!!
Though it depicts beer drinking during Hari Raya celebration I don't think it reflects the liberal attitude of Muslims towards beer drinking back then. Singapore-based F&N jv with Heineken in 1931 to produce Tiger Beer. Decisions on marketing & production were made in Singapore. Majlis newpaper owners just started printing were short of funds and F&N took advantage of this. Further, advertisements those days were made without any due consideration to the audience at large. Unlike today, there was no consumer movement or censorship board to regulate them. Like many old commercials, paper adverts with faith-mocking, sexist & racist content were commonplace.
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36 yrs later, it's Guinness Stout's turn,

beer with satay !
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Old October 15th, 2017, 12:15 PM   #5170
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Though it depicts beer drinking during Hari Raya celebration I don't think it reflects the liberal attitude of Muslims towards beer drinking back then. Singapore-based F&N jv with Heineken in 1931 to produce Tiger Beer. Decisions on marketing & production were made in Singapore. Majlis newpaper owners just started printing were short of funds and F&N took advantage of this. Further, advertisements those days were made without any due consideration to the audience at large. Unlike today, there was no consumer movement or censorship board to regulate them. Like many old commercials, paper adverts with faith-mocking, sexist & racist content were commonplace.
It's not a judgement on the state of Malay Muslim minds then, or even now. I am just intrigued that these things are just a-matter-of-fact stuffs rather than sensational, shock value advertising tactics. Even up to the late 60's alcohol was depicted in Malay movies as something quite ordinary. Try that now without backlash.
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Old October 15th, 2017, 07:59 PM   #5171
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36 yrs later, it's Guinness Stout's turn,

beer with satay !
This Guinness advert was made before the existence of Home Ministry's tight control implemented by the Printing Presses and Publications Act 1984. Those days under Tunku's cabinet they had more creative freedom. Under Tun Razak's cabinet & with a UK-trained barrister as Minister of Information, they even had beer movie adverts in Bahasa Malaysia. Later around mid 70s they used Indian talents for TV & movie beer ads, but it was still in Bahasa Malaysia. Of course things changed when they formed the Urusetia Ugama Islam in late 70s which led to stricter control by the formation of Jakim in late 90s. But I am sure the 1932 Hari Raya beer drinking advert by blackfaced songkok-wearing servants and drivers is a clear faith-mocking and a racist advert that would not be tolerated even in the 50s and the swinging 60s. Yes some Malays may be more liberal those days but I do not think they would appreciate to have their Hari Raya celebration be associated with alcohol consumption.
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whereas Tiger Beer adverts were popular in the 30s, Milkmaid's were everywhere in the 20s,


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Old October 15th, 2017, 10:19 PM   #5173
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1945
GH area was much larger, with separate Malay Hospital, Decrepit Indians' Depot and Decrepit Tamils' Depot
...how considerate.

T.P.C.A = Tamils' Physical Cultural Association

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Dear all,
Fantastic thread to see all the old photos of KL (I have only read up to page 60). It brings back memories of my childhood in the 80s and I guess to fill in a lot of forgotten blanks.
Does anyone know the Lai Cheong restaurant located in the vicinity of Central Market back in the 80s? I'm trying to recall the exact location. I remember climbing the wooden stairs to the second floor of the corner shop to have the char siew, sang har meen and fried rice there for Sunday lunches.
From my internet search, it seems that it used to be where the car park is now. That means the shoplot has been demolished. Can any member confirm whether this is true?
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found this in http://riveroflife.com.my/en/article...-river-gombak/, mistakenly dated "1920s"

photo taken from Gombak River bridge; the row of shophouses in Old Market Square in the background were still not rebuilt in neo-classical design, even Masjid Jamek wasn't there yet (if it was, the embankment wall would've been very noticeable in this view)
Not a lady in the first picture.
Found the hi-res picture here:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...a_1900.tif.jpg
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Lambert & Co's century-old photos always superior to (Malaysian) 1970s photos.
can even see the "lady"s moustache lol
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If you looked at the hi-res picture, you'd see latrines overhanging the river bank behind the buildings in the background, right after the Gombak merges with Klang River. In fact, at the spit of land where the steps to the Masjid Jamek would be, there's a person either fishing or discreetly doing his business.

I wonder if this was a typical river-flow then or just a post rainfall level. Volume sure seems larger than the current Gombak flow even during rain when the river overflow its concrete embankments.
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only 2 cinemas in KL in 1924

Eldorado was opposite Hongkong Bank,
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only 2 cinemas in KL in 1924

Eldorado was opposite Hongkong Bank,
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And after almost a century, only one remains in this list - the venerable Coliseum in Kuala Lumpur... Still going strong too!

By the way, obviously the city known as Petaling Jaya was only forested area, back in 1924... Just to ask, when was the ground cleared for the development of this former satellite town of KL? Was it just after WW2 or earlier?
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