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Old July 8th, 2017, 08:11 AM   #1141
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Regarding the Montpellier LGV, it will open on December 11, 2017. It is the train station itself that will open in 2018.

The info in French.
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Old July 9th, 2017, 05:49 AM   #1142
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Regarding the Montpellier LGV, it will open on December 11, 2017. It is the train station itself that will open in 2018.

The info in French.
To be clear, the Nimes-Montpellier LGV will open in December 2017, but no passenger train will use it, only freight trains will, as the station won't open and no passenger train skips Montpellier (I could only think about a hypothetical non-stop TGV Barcelona-Paris skipping it, and even that is a bit far-fetched).

Which is as good as saying that it will "open" on July 2018.
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Old July 13th, 2017, 12:57 PM   #1143
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I wanted to recommend my friends in Tours to go to Lyon for a certain event, and I was a bit shocked to learn that the direct intercity train takes longer (5h10) than the car (4h40).
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Old July 13th, 2017, 02:44 PM   #1144
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From Saint-Pierre-des-Corps (just outside Tours), there is a direct TGV that goes in Lyon (through Massy TGV) in less than 3 hours.
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Old July 13th, 2017, 02:57 PM   #1145
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^ thanks, that is useful to know. The prices are cheap too, seemingly.

The question remains why is that Intercité train so very slow... Maybe long stops in many stations.
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Old July 23rd, 2017, 02:46 PM   #1147
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The locomotive cemetery in Sotteville, a suburb of Rouen:









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Old July 23rd, 2017, 04:12 PM   #1148
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I'm surprised that SNCF hasn't tried selling some of these locomotives to other European operators, such as those in East Europe, via the same kind of process that has led some of former-UK electric locomotives to be operational in Hungary, for example.

A scene like this just looks like an avoidable waste rather than an inevitable consequence of a reduction in locomotive demand on the French network.
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^ in 2015 (the date of an article I read) about 40 (10%) of these locomotives were in good state but SNCF refuses to sell them. They supposedly claim it's because of an EU directive on environment. The cost of updating them would be too high, so as they become obsolete, usable spares are extracted.

http://normandinamik.cci.fr/212315-a...tes-des-epaves
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Thanks.

What SNCF says seems weird.

Surely locomotives of the same age from other areas of Europe also make use of asbestos?

And, surely locomotives of the same age from other areas will have also had to have the same amount of repair work?

I think this subject needs some more research.
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In the past, there are well known historic operators that refused to sell old rolling stock, because that would make cheap equipment for competitors. I suspect we have the same here. Private operators already made a serious dent into SNCF's freight traffic, they don't want to make that worse by putting on the market perfectly good locomotives, already certified, for 10% price of a new one. They might even try to protect themselves against the opening of the passenger network that will happen in a not so distant future now. A company similar to Regiojet would be perfectly happy to start competing with SNCF on the medium distance market with second hand RIC cars and ex SNCF locos.
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